Dating is at a Record Low: Another Dating Thread

[Nouveau Yathrib]

It's threads like this that make me wonder how old everyone in this thread is. Complaining about people not dating in high school is different from complaining about people not dating in your twenties.

Tinder (hedonism in general) made dating obsolete. Add in the rise of Meninism and reports of women only dating for free food, and you got the answer to your question.

Idk what your experience is/was like, but I'm guessing the majority of college students on Tinder aren't really on there for casual sex. I felt like a lot of people were treating it more as a game/ego boost than anything.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

First of all, the expectation that if she’s suspected of cheating, she’ll have to drink a potion to get an abortion in front of her husband and a levite.

First of all, the potion was not an abortifacient. Secondly, I do not think even Orthodox Jews practice that ritual nowadays.

Then what was it? Something to make her whole thigh rot? A weird thing to do to check for cheating.

[Balican]

Fair enough, I think this is just needlessly entangled in gendered expectations. Can we just say, “be loving to people you love”?

I suppose, but I still disparage any man who does not live up to the highest standards in how he treats any woman whom he dares call his own.

I think that was the most radical unironic white knight post I've ever seen.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Popular girls/ Chearledears- mostly white, most have a black athletic BF, with a few white athletic Bf's in the middle.

"Good" Christian kids- most act good around adults and are your generic drinking smoking teens, a few actually are good and stay out of trouble/ off the dateing scene or just went to Christian School.

Gays (very few)- stay to themselves, can be hostile to non Gays.

Blacks - mostly stick amongst themselves, some mixture.

Latinos- mostly stick to themselves with a few exceptions.

Racists- low in #'s stick to themselves.

Smart kids- stick to themselves with few exceptions.

* Im in the mid uper class popular crowd but we all dip into other sub groups.

I attended a small and somewhat prestigious school, a bubble of unbearably posh affluence amidst the economically-depressed rusting carcass that is Northeastern Pennsylvania. Of my fellow students, I arrived at the beginning of my freshman year of high school (most, by contrast, began during middle school), and while early on I felt awkward and isolated (as during my childhood I was a weirdo at the bottom of the social hierarchy), by the end of my senior year I had managed to emerge victorious in the petty power struggles of high school (or in other terms, I worked my way from the bottom of the ladder to the top of it).

Perhaps the biggest lesson to learn is that striving for "authenticity" is misguided in this regard; what matters is carefully cultivating one's image. This does not mean going along with trends; indeed "going with the flow" is folly. Rather, one must learn how to control the flow! Granted, I have little other advice to offer. In my case, everything just sort of "clicked" naturally. As if I awoke one day a changed man. To put it into words, at this moment at least, is rather difficult. I suppose that the best (and most cliche) advice I can give for navigating the petty politics of school is: "go big, or go home", or something like that.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Yep. Barbarian - Fellahin spectrum.

Neko Law: In any society with two tribes, A and B. If A is more barbarian than B then A tends to be richer and less violent than B. Without any socioeconomic pressure AMBF relationships will be more common than BMAF relationships.

Wouldn't A being richer than B effectively exert socioeconomic pressure for B women to partner with A men?

[Antityranicals]

I suppose, but I still disparage any man who does not live up to the highest standards in how he treats any woman whom he dares call his own.

What if they're gay or bisexual and not dating women?

Or what about lesbians? How are they expected to act?

As you might have read in my signature, I'm a libertarian Catholic. As such, while I support the rights of people to participate in these relationships, I must not endorse them, for one reason, and for one reason only. This is that these couples cannot have children, and that procreation is a central element of a romantic relationship. Here is another reason why men ought to have higher obligations towards women: women have to deal with pregnancy. This is why I will always hold that women ought have ultimate authority on sexual matters in a relationship, simply because they have to deal with the consequences. I am not being intolerant, it is just a simple biological fact that homosexual couples cannot have children. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, as that is not my intention whatsoever.

[Bienenhalde]

First of all, the potion was not an abortifacient. Secondly, I do not think even Orthodox Jews practice that ritual nowadays.

Then what was it? Something to make her whole thigh rot? A weird thing to do to check for cheating.

I would have to look up the passage again because I do not remember all the details, but I think we are drifting off topic.

[New haven america]

It's threads like this that make me wonder how old everyone in this thread is. Complaining about people not dating in high school is different from complaining about people not dating in your twenties.

Tinder (hedonism in general) made dating obsolete. Add in the rise of Meninism and reports of women only dating for free food, and you got the answer to your question.

Idk what your experience is/was like, but I'm guessing the majority of college students on Tinder aren't really on there for casual sex. I felt like a lot of people were treating it more as a game/ego boost than anything.

It's perfectly reasonable to look at the number of people dating in high school.

Gen Z (The generation looked at in the study) has less people dating in even high school. Relationships have universally dropped for the generation and isn't anywhere near the levels of Millennials, Gen X, or Boomers.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Popular girls/ Chearledears- mostly white, most have a black athletic BF, with a few white athletic Bf's in the middle.

"Good" Christian kids- most act good around adults and are your generic drinking smoking teens, a few actually are good and stay out of trouble/ off the dateing scene or just went to Christian School.

Gays (very few)- stay to themselves, can be hostile to non Gays.

Blacks - mostly stick amongst themselves, some mixture.

Latinos- mostly stick to themselves with a few exceptions.

Racists- low in #'s stick to themselves.

Smart kids- stick to themselves with few exceptions.

* Im in the mid uper class popular crowd but we all dip into other sub groups.

I attended a small and somewhat prestigious school, a bubble of unbearably posh affluence amidst the economically-depressed rusting carcass that is Northeastern Pennsylvania. Of my fellow students, I arrived at the beginning of my freshman year of high school (most, by contrast, began during middle school), and while early on I felt awkward and isolated (as during my childhood I was a weirdo at the bottom of the social hierarchy), by the end of my senior year I had managed to emerge victorious in the petty power struggles of high school (or in other terms, I worked my way from the bottom of the ladder to the top of it).

Perhaps the biggest lesson to learn is that striving for "authenticity" is misguided in this regard; what matters is carefully cultivating one's image. This does not mean going along with trends; indeed "going with the flow" is folly. Rather, one must learn how to control the flow! Granted, I have little other advice to offer. In my case, everything just sort of "clicked" naturally. As if I awoke one day a changed man. To put it into words, at this moment at least, is rather difficult. I suppose that the best (and most cliche) advice I can give for navigating the petty politics of school is: "go big, or go home", or something like that.

This read like some heavy-handed philosophy I’d hear in Fist of the North Star.

[Bear Stearns]

Another symptom of diminished social capital in the West. We are becoming low-trust societies, neurotic, stranger-in-a-strange-land societies.

I think if more people went to church or were otherwise involved in organized religion this would be less of a problem. Organized religion has historically played a very important role in building community.

Multiculturalism is one of the biggest causes of this.

[Ayytaly]

odd way to spell "Greece"



Using cheerleaders as a bar standard for society shows how much we've fallen. Also, replace "black bf" with Latino, since that's how I saw it in suburban NYC.

Tbh latinos in NYC are basically black, even the ones who don't look black. I mean for starters Puerto Rican and Dominicans have a lot of African genes but beyond that a lot of Nuyoricans basically speak AAVE, listen to rap, play basketball and live in areas with a lot of black folks.

You never met the indigenous/Mestizo communities of Mexicans and Central Americans, have you?

1. What if she did something shitty and pretends to be the victim?
2. I agree, but that belief stems from the double standard your pedaling that men have to be everything a woman wants while women just have to exist and be there.
3. This doesn't make what your claiming any less backwards or sexist, it just shows a different type of sexism.

If it's sexist to believe that a man has an obligation to treat his girlfriend better than she treats him, than I suppose I can't escape the label.

Women are meant to comfort men moreso than the inverse. Men, by nature, are hunters, gatherers, and providers. It took over 50,000 years to replace mammoths with a couple hundred dollars to buy food, but the role still stands. Overpampering women sounds like a case of beta male status and even cuckoldry.

[Neko-koku]

Yep. Barbarian - Fellahin spectrum.

Neko Law: In any society with two tribes, A and B. If A is more barbarian than B then A tends to be richer and less violent than B. Without any socioeconomic pressure AMBF relationships will be more common than BMAF relationships.

Wouldn't A being richer than B effectively exert socioeconomic pressure for B women to partner with A men?

Yes. That's why I said "without socioeconomic pressure".

AMBF relationships are more genuine on average while BMAF ones are less so.

[New haven america]

What if they're gay or bisexual and not dating women?

Or what about lesbians? How are they expected to act?

As you might have read in my signature, I'm a libertarian Catholic. As such, while I support the rights of people to participate in these relationships, I must not endorse them, for one reason, and for one reason only. This is that these couples cannot have children, and that procreation is a central element of a romantic relationship. Here is another reason why men ought to have higher obligations towards women: women have to deal with pregnancy. This is why I will always hold that women ought have ultimate authority on sexual matters in a relationship, simply because they have to deal with the consequences. I am not being intolerant, it is just a simple biological fact that homosexual couples cannot have children. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, as that is not my intention whatsoever.

You didn't answer my questions.

[Christian Confederation]

lmao sounds like a late 90s teen comedy

Apparently the world still works that way.

I should know, I've been downvoted countless times on Reddit for daring to say cliques like the ones mentioned above don't exist anymore in places I've been in.

Odd.
We have.
Black, White, musilam, and Latino.

Everyone sticks to there race.
Excluding.
Cheerleaders abondening the rest of us white guys (Give or take a few) for the basketball and soccer players.
Whites basically taking the Musilums in as our own.

Black and White shareing Latinos.

And a few people of all the races mixing together.

Basically to qwout my lit teacher from last year and again this year.
"I've noticed that y'all seem to segregate yourselves, I don't know if it's like a sub counciance thing or if y'all just like to be around people like you, I don't know but that's interesting to me!"

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

I attended a small and somewhat prestigious school, a bubble of unbearably posh affluence amidst the economically-depressed rusting carcass that is Northeastern Pennsylvania. Of my fellow students, I arrived at the beginning of my freshman year of high school (most, by contrast, began during middle school), and while early on I felt awkward and isolated (as during my childhood I was a weirdo at the bottom of the social hierarchy), by the end of my senior year I had managed to emerge victorious in the petty power struggles of high school (or in other terms, I worked my way from the bottom of the ladder to the top of it).

Perhaps the biggest lesson to learn is that striving for "authenticity" is misguided in this regard; what matters is carefully cultivating one's image. This does not mean going along with trends; indeed "going with the flow" is folly. Rather, one must learn how to control the flow! Granted, I have little other advice to offer. In my case, everything just sort of "clicked" naturally. As if I awoke one day a changed man. To put it into words, at this moment at least, is rather difficult. I suppose that the best (and most cliche) advice I can give for navigating the petty politics of school is: "go big, or go home", or something like that.

This read like some heavy-handed philosophy I’d hear in Fist of the North Star.

My apologies, but "Fist of the North Star"? If I may ask, what is that? Is it one of those Chinese Cartoons?

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Tbh latinos in NYC are basically black, even the ones who don't look black. I mean for starters Puerto Rican and Dominicans have a lot of African genes but beyond that a lot of Nuyoricans basically speak AAVE, listen to rap, play basketball and live in areas with a lot of black folks.

You never met the indigenous/Mestizo communities of Mexicans and Central Americans, have you?

If it's sexist to believe that a man has an obligation to treat his girlfriend better than she treats him, than I suppose I can't escape the label.

Women are meant to comfort men moreso than the inverse. Men, by nature, are hunters, gatherers, and providers. It took over 50,000 years to replace mammoths with a couple hundred dollars to buy food, but the role still stands. Overpampering women sounds like a case of beta male status and even cuckoldry.

[Citation Needed]

[Neko-koku]

Then what was it? Something to make her whole thigh rot? A weird thing to do to check for cheating.

I would have to look up the passage again because I do not remember all the details, but I think we are drifting off topic.

Chabad will probably do a better service as Rabbinical Jews just like Catholics aren't Sola Scriptura folks.

[Bear Stearns]

Popular girls/ Chearledears- mostly white, most have a black athletic BF, with a few white athletic Bf's in the middle.

"Good" Christian kids- most act good around adults and are your generic drinking smoking teens, a few actually are good and stay out of trouble/ off the dateing scene or just went to Christian School.

Gays (very few)- stay to themselves, can be hostile to non Gays.

Blacks - mostly stick amongst themselves, some mixture.

Latinos- mostly stick to themselves with a few exceptions.

Racists- low in #'s stick to themselves.

Smart kids- stick to themselves with few exceptions.

Musilums- 10-20 a few families, most run the local gas stations. (My buddy Osmond is crazy Rich thanks to gas and his dad's rice factory in pacastain.

* Im in the mid uper class popular crowd but we all dip into other sub groups.
South GA HS, Go hornets

My school was basically the rich preppy kids, the large mob of poor kids that were mainly Latino, Arab, Chaldean or Albanian with some token white guys and a couple black kids, and the weebs. That was basically it at my school

I went to a prep school, but there was some diversity (Asians and Indians were a decent amount of the population). The biggest social segregation was largely based on who was already friends before high school.

People stuck to the kids they grew up with, which overlapped a lot with social class and race.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

This read like some heavy-handed philosophy I’d hear in Fist of the North Star.

My apologies, but "Fist of the North Star"? If I may ask, what is that? Is it one of those Chinese Cartoons?

One of the few animes I watch in my spare time.

[Antityranicals]

As you might have read in my signature, I'm a libertarian Catholic. As such, while I support the rights of people to participate in these relationships, I must not endorse them, for one reason, and for one reason only. This is that these couples cannot have children, and that procreation is a central element of a romantic relationship. Here is another reason why men ought to have higher obligations towards women: women have to deal with pregnancy. This is why I will always hold that women ought have ultimate authority on sexual matters in a relationship, simply because they have to deal with the consequences. I am not being intolerant, it is just a simple biological fact that homosexual couples cannot have children. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, as that is not my intention whatsoever.

You didn't answer my question.

What I'm saying is, however homophobic or bigoted it may seem, these relationships should not be participated in whatsoever, in a perfect world, not because gays are evil, but simply because procreation is impossible.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Apparently the world still works that way.

I should know, I've been downvoted countless times on Reddit for daring to say cliques like the ones mentioned above don't exist anymore in places I've been in.

Odd.
We have.
Black, White, musilam, and Latino.

Everyone sticks to there race.
Excluding.
Cheerleaders abondening the rest of us white guys (Give or take a few) for the basketball and soccer players.
Whites basically taking the Musilums in as our own.

Black and White shareing Latinos.

And a few people of all the races mixing together.

Basically to qwout my lit teacher from last year and again this year.
"I've noticed that y'all seem to segregate yourselves, I don't know if it's like a sub counciance thing or if y'all just like to be around people like you, I don't know but that's interesting to me!"

Muslim isn’t a race.

[Neko-koku]

Apparently the world still works that way.

I should know, I've been downvoted countless times on Reddit for daring to say cliques like the ones mentioned above don't exist anymore in places I've been in.

Odd.
We have.
Black, White, musilam, and Latino.

Everyone sticks to there race.
Excluding.
Cheerleaders abondening the rest of us white guys (Give or take a few) for the basketball and soccer players.
Whites basically taking the Musilums in as our own.

Black and White shareing Latinos.

And a few people of all the races mixing together.

Basically to qwout my lit teacher from last year and again this year.
"I've noticed that y'all seem to segregate yourselves, I don't know if it's like a sub counciance thing or if y'all just like to be around people like you, I don't know but that's interesting to me!"

I guess Middle Eastern man - Euro woman relationships are more common than the other way around, right?

[Rojava Free State]

Apparently the world still works that way.

I should know, I've been downvoted countless times on Reddit for daring to say cliques like the ones mentioned above don't exist anymore in places I've been in.

Odd.
We have.
Black, White, musilam, and Latino.

Everyone sticks to there race.
Excluding.
Cheerleaders abondening the rest of us white guys (Give or take a few) for the basketball and soccer players.
Whites basically taking the Musilums in as our own.

Black and White shareing Latinos.

And a few people of all the races mixing together.

Basically to qwout my lit teacher from last year and again this year.
"I've noticed that y'all seem to segregate yourselves, I don't know if it's like a sub counciance thing or if y'all just like to be around people like you, I don't know but that's interesting to me!"

Muslims aren't a race. Most American Muslims are either black Americans or Arabs (technically caucasian, of a variety akin to Italians or greeks)

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Wouldn't A being richer than B effectively exert socioeconomic pressure for B women to partner with A men?

Yes. That's why I said "without socioeconomic pressure".

AMBF relationships are more genuine on average while BMAF ones are less so.

Also why would A being more "barbarian" than B result in A being richer and less violent than B? I'm afraid I don't quite follow your barbarian-fellahin dichotomy.

[New haven america]

You didn't answer my question.

What I'm saying is, however homophobic or bigoted it may seem, these relationships should not be participated in whatsoever, in a perfect world, not because gays are evil, but simply because procreation is impossible.

You're still not answering my questions.

I didn't ask what you think of them, I asked how you think they should operate without the other sex being involved?