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Postby Vivolkha » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:39 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:No we do not. Men have nothing to gain from being friends with women.

Look, I've also had bad experiences with women and been tempted by misogynism. And yet, my best friend is female and she's great. And yes, I've also met terrible women. Great discovery here, women are also people! Irony aside, opening yourself to roughly 50% of the world's population surely will not hurt you, and women tend to have different points of view than men, if only because of social expectations, so there's that too.

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Crysuko wrote:Oh to be this naive again...


Why the assumption of naivete? I'm just speaking from personal experience. Dating is like breathing air, it just happens.

Or it just doesn't.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:42 pm

You mean to tell me that everyone started to date less the moment I started to date more?

Goddammit, I jinxed dating. Sorry everyone. :(
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Postby Emulation White » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:54 pm

Vivolkha wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:No we do not. Men have nothing to gain from being friends with women.

Look, I've also had bad experiences with women and been tempted by misogynism. And yet, my best friend is female and she's great. And yes, I've also met terrible women. Great discovery here, women are also people! Irony aside, opening yourself to roughly 50% of the world's population surely will not hurt you, and women tend to have different points of view than men, if only because of social expectations, so there's that too.

Emulation White wrote:
Why the assumption of naivete? I'm just speaking from personal experience. Dating is like breathing air, it just happens.

Or it just doesn't.


It seems we are both making the error of using universal instead of relative terminology. It does for me and others and not so much for them and they. I still think people would be more successful if they could stop over-thinking it and being so self conscious.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:58 pm

Electic wrote:Current as of one hour ago, I believe this is the same group that I posted signing the song "Do You Hear The People Sing" a couple pages back. Passengers (HK and International) not associated with the protest caught in the cross-fire of tear gas canisters*, while trying to board the planes. Police regroup from towards the end of the video, away from the protesters who are using lasers against them.

*This is mentioned in the video, not shown in the video tmk. Would apperciate a fact check from any interested parties.

I think you posted this in the wrong place...
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Postby Galloism » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:14 pm

Novus America wrote:
Galloism wrote:Notably, and working just off your list, there are 26 "0" entries. I'm taking that to mean romeo and juliet laws don't exist in over half of US states.


Fair enough. I thought they were more widespread than they actually are.
So in about half of states it is usually still automatically illegal if both are below the age of consent (but of course prosecutorial discretions is likely). And about half the states not necessarily so.

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Postby Cerinda » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:02 pm

Imagine having the social skills to date.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:04 pm

Cerinda wrote:Imagine having the social skills to date.

Based on my (very) brief foray into criminal defense work in school, social skills aren't actually necessary to date.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:07 pm

Cerinda wrote:Imagine having the social skills to date.


Unless you exclusively hang around Type-A personalities, this shouldn't be that much of a hurdle.
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Postby Electic » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:15 pm

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Electic wrote:Current as of one hour ago, I believe this is the same group that I posted signing the song "Do You Hear The People Sing" a couple pages back. Passengers (HK and International) not associated with the protest caught in the cross-fire of tear gas canisters*, while trying to board the planes. Police regroup from towards the end of the video, away from the protesters who are using lasers against them.

*This is mentioned in the video, not shown in the video tmk. Would apperciate a fact check from any interested parties.

I think you posted this in the wrong place...

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Postby Cerinda » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:16 pm

Kernen wrote:
Cerinda wrote:Imagine having the social skills to date.

Based on my (very) brief foray into criminal defense work in school, social skills aren't actually necessary to date.


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Cerinda wrote:Imagine having the social skills to date.


Unless you exclusively hang around Type-A personalities, this shouldn't be that much of a hurdle.

As someone who has high functioning autism, it is extremely difficult for me to communicate well with other people, especially those on the opposite sex. I've been on a few 'dates' (if you count eating at a fast food restaurant a date) and it ends up being extremely awkward as I run out of things to say. I also have social anxiety so being out in public makes me extremely uncomfortable.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:23 pm

Cerinda wrote:As someone who has high functioning autism, it is extremely difficult for me to communicate well with other people, especially those on the opposite sex. I've been on a few 'dates' (if you count eating at a fast food restaurant a date) and it ends up being extremely awkward as I run out of things to say. I also have social anxiety so being out in public makes me extremely uncomfortable.


You're probably not going to break my top ten.
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Postby Cerinda » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:38 pm

Kernen wrote:
Cerinda wrote:As someone who has high functioning autism, it is extremely difficult for me to communicate well with other people, especially those on the opposite sex. I've been on a few 'dates' (if you count eating at a fast food restaurant a date) and it ends up being extremely awkward as I run out of things to say. I also have social anxiety so being out in public makes me extremely uncomfortable.


You're probably not going to break my top ten.

At least that guy can talk about god; all the conversations I've had on dates end in awkward silences.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:40 pm

Cerinda wrote:
Kernen wrote:
You're probably not going to break my top ten.

At least that guy can talk about god; all the conversations I've had on dates end in awkward silences.

The man thinks he is god, so I think awkward silence is a step up, my dude.
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Postby Cerinda » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:44 pm

Kernen wrote:
Cerinda wrote:At least that guy can talk about god; all the conversations I've had on dates end in awkward silences.

The man thinks he is god, so I think awkward silence is a step up, my dude.

Oh, then in that case yeah you're right lol.
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Postby Thepeopl » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:48 pm

Cerinda wrote:
Kernen wrote:
You're probably not going to break my top ten.

At least that guy can talk about god; all the conversations I've had on dates end in awkward silences.

Do you ask questions on dates?
The biggest part of a date is getting to know eachother. Easiest way is to ask a question and talk about it together.
Best questions:
What is your dream/ goal in life ?
What interests you?
How was your youth? What values did you get from your family?
Are you having fun?

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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:20 pm

Cerinda wrote:
Kernen wrote:Based on my (very) brief foray into criminal defense work in school, social skills aren't actually necessary to date.


Bear Stearns wrote:
Unless you exclusively hang around Type-A personalities, this shouldn't be that much of a hurdle.

As someone who has high functioning autism, it is extremely difficult for me to communicate well with other people, especially those on the opposite sex. I've been on a few 'dates' (if you count eating at a fast food restaurant a date) and it ends up being extremely awkward as I run out of things to say. I also have social anxiety so being out in public makes me extremely uncomfortable.


The best approach is to have questions to ask, not things to say. Get them to talk about themselves. Then they just think you are a good listener.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:23 pm

Cerinda wrote:
Kernen wrote:
You're probably not going to break my top ten.

At least that guy can talk about god; all the conversations I've had on dates end in awkward silences.

Look up "Open communication."
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:23 pm

Novus America wrote:
Cerinda wrote:

As someone who has high functioning autism, it is extremely difficult for me to communicate well with other people, especially those on the opposite sex. I've been on a few 'dates' (if you count eating at a fast food restaurant a date) and it ends up being extremely awkward as I run out of things to say. I also have social anxiety so being out in public makes me extremely uncomfortable.


The best approach is to have questions to ask, not things to say. Get them to talk about themselves. Then they just think you are a good listener.

Maybe that's a weakness of mine, I'm a rambler. When I start in something interesting, it doesn't stop until about 12 tangents later.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:34 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Novus America wrote:
The best approach is to have questions to ask, not things to say. Get them to talk about themselves. Then they just think you are a good listener.

Maybe that's a weakness of mine, I'm a rambler. When I start in something interesting, it doesn't stop until about 12 tangents later.


That is best avoided early on. I know the feeling, but few people want a history and politics lecture on the first date.

If you can get them to talk about themselves it is generally better.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:41 pm

Thepeopl wrote:
Cerinda wrote:At least that guy can talk about god; all the conversations I've had on dates end in awkward silences.

Do you ask questions on dates?
The biggest part of a date is getting to know eachother. Easiest way is to ask a question and talk about it together.
Best questions:
What is your dream/ goal in life ?
What interests you?
How was your youth? What values did you get from your family?
Are you having fun?


What is your name?

What is your quest?

What is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?
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Postby DACOROMANIA » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:51 pm

Today the dating is at a worse condition. I tried it on most dating sites, for example, and almost every time I was bombarded by the prostitution propaganda and by scams of fake promises. Not to forget those who ask for money.
It's incredibly that on such sites women get tens of messages in a day but men rarely receiving messages or even not at all.
Most people are materialistic and expecting lots of things.
Sugar-girls are very common, at every step. Also homosexuals. It's an "explosion" of such people.
If you're looking for serious people, then you should not search on sites and on social medias. Speed-dating is the same ineffective.
Real dates are face-to-face and most rare today.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:00 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:Do you ask questions on dates?
The biggest part of a date is getting to know eachother. Easiest way is to ask a question and talk about it together.
Best questions:
What is your dream/ goal in life ?
What interests you?
How was your youth? What values did you get from your family?
Are you having fun?


What is your name?

What is your quest?

What is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?


An African or European Swallow?
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:05 pm

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What did women ever do to you, just curious? That is like saying there is nothing to be gained from being friends with other men. If you just want friends in general, that should be reward enough, and it is largely up to you and the other person, so far as whether it goes far or not.


This. If you can get me and Saiwania to put aside our political differences and both disagree with with you, something is seriously wrong with what you said.


There isn't anything wrong with what I have said. What I have said needed to be said, but it's not popular.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:11 pm

Novus America wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
What is your name?

What is your quest?

What is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?


An African or European Swallow?

If you make the bridgekeeper jump off the bridge of course he will never get a date.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:17 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
No we do not. Men have nothing to gain from being friends with women.

>What is sex
>What are babies


You don't need to be friends with women to have both. An intimate relationship and a friendship are separate things.
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