Mandatory paternity testing

[Attempted Socialism]

I sense a lot of a single moms are sweating getting their checks taken away.

There's an error in your sensory equipment, then. Even if "a lot" of women lied (Let's not comment too much about what it says about you to think that), those cheques would come from different fathers. Your argument is shit.

The suggestion by the OP is daft, intrusive, expensive (Without any justification) and a violation of the rights of women, for no gain at all.

Edit:

I think if the father requests a paternity test they should be granted, not sure if it should be mandatory tho

Apart from some US TV-shows that I see referenced around, I don't often hear of any claims by (potential) fathers that it cannot be their offspring. Is it really in any way prevalent?
Sure, in disputes it may be the resolution, but I would generally be wary of any legal changes, since the idea seems to come from the women-hating fringes of the worst parts of the internet.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Both of those sentiments are sexist.

Not really. Rape, by its original definition, requires a penis, hence the notion that women can only be potential sexual assaulters, at most. Likewise, women know the baby's hers, because they felt the baby emerge from their own womb. Men have no way of knowing this.

Why though.

For starters, to avoid harming the child (and through the child, society) through the emotional turmoil that results from being deceived about who one's father is.

[Nova Cyberia]

I sense a lot of a single moms are sweating getting their checks taken away.

There's an error in your sensory equipment, then. Even if "a lot" of women lied (Let's not comment too much about what it says about you to think that), those cheques would come from different fathers. Your argument is shit.

You don't know who those fathers are, or where they are, or what their financial conditions are.

The suggestion by the OP is daft, intrusive, expensive (Without any justification) and a violation of the rights of women, for no gain at all.

Okay, I gotta ask.

How is performing a mandatory paternity test on a baby in any way a violation of the rights of women?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

There's an error in your sensory equipment, then. Even if "a lot" of women lied (Let's not comment too much about what it says about you to think that), those cheques would come from different fathers. Your argument is shit.

If the poorer guy turns out to be the father and the wealthier guy turns out not to be, there is still a net decrease in child support owed to her.

The suggestion by the OP is daft, intrusive, expensive (Without any justification) and a violation of the rights of women, for no gain at all.

What "rights?" Is the DNA of a child whose upbringing affects us all somehow considered "protected by privacy"?

[Purgatio]

This wouldn't be a problem if we created a national DNA database, with a person's DNA entered into the database from a drawn blood sample from the moment of birth. Not only would issues like paternity and child support obligations be determined automatically, but it would allow us to solve many violent crimes through a simpler and streamlined process.

[The Sherpa Empire]

I sense a lot of a single moms are sweating getting their checks taken away.

I sense a lot of men don't want to waste their time taking pointless tests just to satisfy your misogynistic paranoia.

[The South Falls]

What about female maternity tests? thonk about that

Indeed. I have a story.

After 10 years, the wife starts to think their kid looks kinda strange so she decides to do a DNA test.

She finds out that the kid is actually from completely different parents.

Wife: Honey, I have something very serious to tell you

Husband: What’s up?

Wife: According to DNA test results, this is not our kid

Husband: Well you dont’t remember, do you?? When we were leaving the hospital, we noticed that our baby had pooped. Then you said: - Please go change the baby, I’ll wait for you here. So I went inside, got a clean one and left the dirty one there

Wife: I put you in this world an I can take you out!

Husband: Lemme get on that

[The Sherpa Empire]

I think if the father requests a paternity test they should be granted, not sure if it should be mandatory tho

If someone requests it, sure, they should be available. But it's stupid to make it mandatory.

[Nova Cyberia]

I sense a lot of a single moms are sweating getting their checks taken away.

I sense a lot of men don't want to waste their time taking pointless tests just to satisfy your misogynistic paranoia.

It's not misogynistic in the least. If you expect us to be legally and financially on the hook for the rest of our lives then some verification would be wonderful.

Trust but verify, eh?

[Purgatio]

I sense a lot of men don't want to waste their time taking pointless tests just to satisfy your misogynistic paranoia.

It's not misogynistic in the least. If you expect us to be legally and financially on the hook for the rest of our lives then some verification would be wonderful.

Trust but verify, eh?

If you've been lied to and paid child support or financially supported what you thought was your biological child, you can just sue the biological mother for compensation for paternity fraud in the tort of deceit

[Nova Cyberia]

It's not misogynistic in the least. If you expect us to be legally and financially on the hook for the rest of our lives then some verification would be wonderful.

Trust but verify, eh?

If you've been lied to and paid child support or financially supported what you thought was your biological child, you can just sue the biological mother for compensation for paternity fraud in the tort of deceit

Considering the inherent biases of our courts against men that's a bit iffy.

[The Sherpa Empire]

Both of those sentiments are sexist.

Not really. Rape, by its original definition, requires a penis,

Expect a lecture if Gallo ever reads this.

[Attempted Socialism]

There's an error in your sensory equipment, then. Even if "a lot" of women lied (Let's not comment too much about what it says about you to think that), those cheques would come from different fathers. Your argument is shit.

You don't know who those fathers are, or where they are, or what their financial conditions are.

The only argumentin I can see for why a woman would not pursue the actual father (If she even knows herself) would be power disparity; namely, a father with the power to contest parentage in court. I'd guess their financial situation is either unchanged or better. Your argument is even worse than I thought.

The suggestion by the OP is daft, intrusive, expensive (Without any justification) and a violation of the rights of women, for no gain at all.

Okay, I gotta ask.

How is performing a mandatory paternity test a baby in any way a violation of the rights of women?

You mean the mandatory slut-shaming and distrust based on her gender for no viable reason at all? You're proposing a policy change on the basis that all women are automatically suspected of infidelity, and you can't see how that's a transgression? In my country, that insinuation would be libellous (And the discrimination based on gender makes it a rights violation).

[Grinning Dragon]

There's an error in your sensory equipment, then. Even if "a lot" of women lied (Let's not comment too much about what it says about you to think that), those cheques would come from different fathers. Your argument is shit.

If the poorer guy turns out to be the father and the wealthier guy turns out not to be, there is still a net decrease in child support owed to her.

The suggestion by the OP is daft, intrusive, expensive (Without any justification) and a violation of the rights of women, for no gain at all.

What "rights?" Is the DNA of a child whose upbringing affects us all somehow considered "protected by privacy"?

Who gives a shit. She isn't owed anything from the guy who isn't the biological father. If the wealthy guy wants to continue to pay, that is up to him. Forcing him when he isn't the father is wrong, period.

[Kowani]

I mean, I’m not opposed, but I think my reasons differ from the OP’s.

[The Sherpa Empire]

I sense a lot of men don't want to waste their time taking pointless tests just to satisfy your misogynistic paranoia.

It's not misogynistic in the least. If you expect us to be legally and financially on the hook for the rest of our lives then some verification would be wonderful.

Trust but verify, eh?

If a guy DOES NOT WANT THE DAMN TEST and you're telling him, "No, no, no, you can't trust her! You have to take this test!" -- yeah, you're being a misogynist.

[Attempted Socialism]

I sense a lot of a single moms are sweating getting their checks taken away.

I sense a lot of men don't want to waste their time taking pointless tests just to satisfy your misogynistic paranoia.

Damnit man, don't out me!

If you've been lied to and paid child support or financially supported what you thought was your biological child, you can just sue the biological mother for compensation for paternity fraud in the tort of deceit

Considering the inherent biases of our courts against men that's a bit iffy.

Considering your lack of source, that's BS.

[Nova Cyberia]

You don't know who those fathers are, or where they are, or what their financial conditions are.

The only argumentin I can see for why a woman would not pursue the actual father (If she even knows herself) would be power disparity; namely, a father with the power to contest parentage in court. I'd guess their financial situation is either unchanged or better. Your argument is even worse than I thought.

Or perhaps the father just can't write as big of a check as the last one.

Okay, I gotta ask.

How is performing a mandatory paternity test a baby in any way a violation of the rights of women?

You mean the mandatory slut-shaming and distrust based on her gender for no viable reason at all? You're proposing a policy change on the basis that all women are automatically suspected of infidelity, and you can't see how that's a transgression? In my country, that insinuation would be libellous (And the discrimination based on gender makes it a rights violation).

No one's being shamed. Men just don't really feel like being financially and legally on the hook for the rest of their lives for a baby that's not even theirs. Or are we expected to by default assume that all women are virtuous angels who would never sleep with anyone else?

And tbqh, if you slept around and end up with a baby who's not your SO's offspring then you absolutely deserve to be shamed.

[Nova Cyberia]

I sense a lot of men don't want to waste their time taking pointless tests just to satisfy your misogynistic paranoia.

Damnit man, don't out me!

Considering the inherent biases of our courts against men that's a bit iffy.

Considering your lack of source, that's BS.

Lol okay.

[Lower Nubia]

Current studies suggest 10% of children are raised unknowingly, by mother and “dad”, by the wrong father.

So, yes.

[Nova Cyberia]

It's not misogynistic in the least. If you expect us to be legally and financially on the hook for the rest of our lives then some verification would be wonderful.

Trust but verify, eh?

If a guy DOES NOT WANT THE DAMN TEST and you're telling him, "No, no, no, you can't trust her! You have to take this test!" -- yeah, you're being a misogynist.

Well, if it prevents him from having to shell out checks for a child that isn't his then I'd say it's mission accomplished.

[Necroghastia]

Current studies suggest 10% of children are raised unknowingly, by mother and “dad”, by the wrong father.

So, yes.

Studies like...?

[Rezmaeristan]

Probably not a mandatory paternity test, but I think it should be a civil right same as legal representation, if it isn't already.

[Purgatio]

If you've been lied to and paid child support or financially supported what you thought was your biological child, you can just sue the biological mother for compensation for paternity fraud in the tort of deceit

Considering the inherent biases of our courts against men that's a bit iffy.

Paternity fraud is literally an open and shut case. The tort of deceit means you can claim compensation for any deception, whether deliberate or in reckless disregard for the truth, which results in consequential economic loss. Paternity fraud fits the bill. Just show the kid isn't yours and you raised him all these years and you'll win damages, simple.

[Attempted Socialism]

The only argumentin I can see for why a woman would not pursue the actual father (If she even knows herself) would be power disparity; namely, a father with the power to contest parentage in court. I'd guess their financial situation is either unchanged or better. Your argument is even worse than I thought.

Or perhaps the father just can't write as big of a check as the last one.

Yeah, because naturally women decide who to claim child support from based on the ability to pay. You really don't have any issues coming off as a massive misogynist, do you?

You mean the mandatory slut-shaming and distrust based on her gender for no viable reason at all? You're proposing a policy change on the basis that all women are automatically suspected of infidelity, and you can't see how that's a transgression? In my country, that insinuation would be libellous (And the discrimination based on gender makes it a rights violation).

No one's being shamed. Men just don't really feel like being financially and legally on the hook for the rest of their lives for a baby that's not even theirs. Or are we expected to by default assume that all women are virtuous angels who would never sleep with anyone else?

And tbqh, if you slept around and end up with a baby who's not your SO's offspring then you absolutely deserve to be shamed.

You say that you're not shaming anyone... and in the sentence right after, you're shaming literally all women, building in the premise that they're all automatically and entirely untrustworthy, to the point where even if a man trusts a woman, he has to be forced to have a paternity test.
You also started out referring to single women, now it's women with SO's sleeping around. At least get your misogynist stories straight.

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Considering your lack of source, that's BS.

Lol okay.

Your link redirects to some dodgy ad page, according to my browser scripts.