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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:39 am

It seems every time a guy asks his girlfriend for a paternity test, she takes it personally. And any time he doesn't, his rationalization is "I know my own girlfriend."

Well, that's what they all say.

Why could anyone in this day and age still object to mandatory paternity testing? If it's the law, it applies to everyone, and therefore, no one has any excuse to take it personally. Why not find out who the father really is, rather than assuming for no reason that whoever arbitrarily thinks he's the father must be the father?

Personally, I'm all for paternity testing because the truth must come out. We must not rely on the kinds of assumptions that have fallen through before.
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:41 am

How about if neither partner wants it, then don't waste money on something that neither partner wants.
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Postby Pacomia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:42 am

While this is a good idea, it probably wouldn't work just because of the "mandatory" part. When people hear "mandatory", they often don't like it.
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Postby Mzeusia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:46 am

I don't see why it has to be mandatory.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:50 am

The Sherpa Empire wrote:How about if neither partner wants it, then don't waste money on something that neither partner wants.


^ this.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:51 am

I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:53 am

The Sherpa Empire wrote:How about if neither partner wants it, then don't waste money on something that neither partner wants.
The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.


Yeah, these two quotes pretty much sum up my thoughts as well.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:53 am

The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.

Having a kid is too damm expensive as it is, why do things to raise the cost for no good reason.
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Postby Page » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:54 am

There should certainly be a paternity test before a man is legally listed as the father of the child if he does not think he is the father, and paternity should always be proven before anyone is compelled to pay child support, but I see no reason why everyone should be tested if there is no paternity dispute.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:55 am

The Sherpa Empire wrote:How about if neither partner wants it, then don't waste money on something that neither partner wants.

Aye

The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.

Yeah, not every girl is your Ex OP
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:03 am

The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.

"Potentially" thots, not necessarily actually thots. You know, like how all men are "potential rapists?"

Let's find out which ones are and which ones aren't. What have they to hide?


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The Sherpa Empire wrote:How about if neither partner wants it, then don't waste money on something that neither partner wants.

Aye

The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.

Yeah, not every girl is your Ex OP

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Postby Scomagia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:04 am

The only reason I would support such a thing is because I believe it is necessary for people to have a full accounting of the family medical history.

That said, it seems too authoritarian to implement.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:06 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.

"Potentially" thots, not necessarily actually thots. You know, like how all men are "potential rapists?"

Both of those sentiments are sexist.

Let's find out which ones are and which ones aren't. What have they to hide?

Why though.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:06 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.

"Potentially" thots, not necessarily actually thots. You know, like how all men are "potential rapists?"

Let's find out which ones are and which ones aren't. What have they to hide?


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Yeah, not every girl is your Ex OP

First NSG makes me out to be a loner who can't get laid. Now it makes be out to be bitter about a relationship in which I supposedly did get laid. The former is marginally closer to the truth, (reality's more along the lines of "find out what I'll be dealing with before I have to deal with it") but the contradiction speaks volumes.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:10 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I think people are against it because it perhaps assumes by default that all women are thots.

"Potentially" thots, not necessarily actually thots. You know, like how all men are "potential rapists?"

Let's find out which ones are and which ones aren't. What have they to hide?

OP, that's a very authoritarian attitude. I'd rather not have the assumption that all women are potentially thots that need a test in the event of pregnancy. It also attaches a stigma to pregnancy, that it's potentially evidence of impropriety across the entirety of society that needs to be tested. Sorry OP, but the idea is too bitter for my taste.
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:13 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:"Potentially" thots, not necessarily actually thots. You know, like how all men are "potential rapists?"

Let's find out which ones are and which ones aren't. What have they to hide?



First NSG makes me out to be a loner who can't get laid. Now it makes be out to be bitter about a relationship in which I supposedly did get laid. The former is marginally closer to the truth, (reality's more along the lines of "find out what I'll be dealing with before I have to deal with it") but the contradiction speaks volumes.

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Postby The South Falls » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:14 am

What about female maternity tests? thonk about that
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:29 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:"Potentially" thots, not necessarily actually thots. You know, like how all men are "potential rapists?"

Let's find out which ones are and which ones aren't. What have they to hide?



First NSG makes me out to be a loner who can't get laid. Now it makes be out to be bitter about a relationship in which I supposedly did get laid. The former is marginally closer to the truth, (reality's more along the lines of "find out what I'll be dealing with before I have to deal with it") but the contradiction speaks volumes.

NSG is not a hivemind, ya know


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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:34 am

I sense a lot of a single moms are sweating getting their checks taken away.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:35 am

The South Falls wrote:What about female maternity tests? thonk about that


Indeed. I have a story.

After 10 years, the wife starts to think their kid looks kinda strange so she decides to do a DNA test.

She finds out that the kid is actually from completely different parents.

Wife: Honey, I have something very serious to tell you

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Wife: According to DNA test results, this is not our kid

Husband: Well you dont’t remember, do you?? When we were leaving the hospital, we noticed that our baby had pooped. Then you said: - Please go change the baby, I’ll wait for you here. So I went inside, got a clean one and left the dirty one there
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:37 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:What about female maternity tests? thonk about that


Indeed. I have a story.

After 10 years, the wife starts to think their kid looks kinda strange so she decides to do a DNA test.

She finds out that the kid is actually from completely different parents.

Wife: Honey, I have something very serious to tell you

Husband: What’s up?

Wife: According to DNA test results, this is not our kid

Husband: Well you dont’t remember, do you?? When we were leaving the hospital, we noticed that our baby had pooped. Then you said: - Please go change the baby, I’ll wait for you here. So I went inside, got a clean one and left the dirty one there

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Postby -Ocelot- » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:37 am

If a man is so afraid, maybe he shouldn't do any of that. Sounds much simpler than forcing the entire state to perform mandatory paternity tests for every single birth, something both expensive and unenforceable.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:37 am

I think if the father requests a paternity test they should be granted, not sure if it should be mandatory tho
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Ethel mermania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:What about female maternity tests? thonk about that


Indeed. I have a story.

After 10 years, the wife starts to think their kid looks kinda strange so she decides to do a DNA test.

She finds out that the kid is actually from completely different parents.

Wife: Honey, I have something very serious to tell you

Husband: What’s up?

Wife: According to DNA test results, this is not our kid

Husband: Well you dont’t remember, do you?? When we were leaving the hospital, we noticed that our baby had pooped. Then you said: - Please go change the baby, I’ll wait for you here. So I went inside, got a clean one and left the dirty one there

Oh God, that's dark and hilarious.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:What about female maternity tests? thonk about that


Indeed. I have a story.

After 10 years, the wife starts to think their kid looks kinda strange so she decides to do a DNA test.

She finds out that the kid is actually from completely different parents.

Wife: Honey, I have something very serious to tell you

Husband: What’s up?

Wife: According to DNA test results, this is not our kid

Husband: Well you dont’t remember, do you?? When we were leaving the hospital, we noticed that our baby had pooped. Then you said: - Please go change the baby, I’ll wait for you here. So I went inside, got a clean one and left the dirty one there

I sighed but smiled at the same time, so thumbs up
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