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Postby Jolthig » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:12 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Why are white supremacist mass shooters always ugly as fuck? They're not doing their ideology any favours....

Maybe because we view their actions ugly?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:12 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Why are white supremacist mass shooters always ugly as fuck? They're not doing their ideology any favours....

Incel too?


Seems consistent, yes.

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Postby Duhon » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:12 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Duhon wrote:
resentment earned is resentment returned is resentment nurtured further
in other words
pointless


So what would you do with him?


life imprisonment with teams of life coaches and the like
just to show him that he wasted his fucking life too
just to show him that those people he killed weren't a threat
i dunno i just the pointlessness of it all
kill kill kill kill kill kill

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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:12 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
The problem isn't poverty in these situations though, people don't commit ideologically motivated spree murders because they're poor.


Right, it's not just poverty that is the issue but I do think the broader sense of hopelessness and despair stemming from an increasing lack of upward mobility plays a role. Inequality in nominal terms was just as bad in the 1920s and prior as it is today but people weren't committing mass shootings.


Economic issues are indicative of normal criminal activity. Poor people burgle, or rob, or sell drugs. They don't go on spree shootings.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:14 pm

Duhon wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So what would you do with him?


life imprisonment with teams of life coaches and the like
just to show him that he wasted his fucking life too
just to show him that those people he killed weren't a threat
i dunno i just the pointlessness of it all
kill kill kill kill kill kill


If he's staying in prison forever, why does it matter if he gets a life coach?
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:14 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Why are white supremacist mass shooters always ugly as fuck? They're not doing their ideology any favours....

Incel too?


It's funny because incels come from the same crowd that harps on the Alpha and Beta male concept. Then claim high "testosterone" and that liberal men are lacking.

Okay buddy. That's why you all look like undesirable neck-bearded fat fucks
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:15 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Why are white supremacist mass shooters always ugly as fuck? They're not doing their ideology any favours....

Because most of the people who get radicalized are social failures, and social failures tend to be ugly as a rule unless they have some kind of underlying mental illness.
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Postby Duhon » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:18 pm

Telconi wrote:
Duhon wrote:
life imprisonment with teams of life coaches and the like
just to show him that he wasted his fucking life too
just to show him that those people he killed weren't a threat
i dunno i just the pointlessness of it all
kill kill kill kill kill kill


If he's staying in prison forever, why does it matter if he gets a life coach?


changing one's attitude toward other people is of supreme importance

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:19 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Why are white supremacist mass shooters always ugly as fuck? They're not doing their ideology any favours....

Because most of the people who get radicalized are social failures, and social failures tend to be ugly as a rule unless they have some kind of underlying mental illness.


That last part is why America needs vast and massive upgrades to its mental health system.

And now.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:19 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Incel too?


Seems consistent, yes.

I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that the guy behind this latest incident has never had sex. Similar to the guy behind the garlic festival shooting, who said to one of the people at the festival "I'm so fucking angry" when they asked why he was doing it.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:19 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Gagium wrote:Maybe execute the criminal

Probably a good idea. Domestic or not, this guy is a terrorist.

That's true. He got captured in Texas.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:20 pm

We just came back from a funeral. What’s the latest on this?
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:20 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We just came back from a funeral. What’s the latest on this?

At least 19 dead. Shooter captured alive.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:22 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We just came back from a funeral. What’s the latest on this?

At least 19 dead. Shooter captured alive.


Man, yet another shooting. :/

My heart goes to everyone affected, both injured and dead.
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Postby Duhon » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:22 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We just came back from a funeral. What’s the latest on this?


people dead and injured because fuck it if there ever was a point to this madness

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Postby Telconi » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:25 pm

Duhon wrote:
Telconi wrote:
If he's staying in prison forever, why does it matter if he gets a life coach?


changing one's attitude toward other people is of supreme importance


Why tho? His attitude is irrelevant in a prison.
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Postby Duhon » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:27 pm

Telconi wrote:
Duhon wrote:
changing one's attitude toward other people is of supreme importance


Why tho? His attitude is irrelevant in a prison.


we are not leaving people to die with their delusions intact and unchallenged

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Postby Vetalia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:28 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Why are white supremacist mass shooters always ugly as fuck? They're not doing their ideology any favours....


I guess they're compensating for something, I mean look at the Aryan supermen Himmler, Hitler, Goebbels and Goering ffs.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:29 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Why are white supremacist mass shooters always ugly as fuck? They're not doing their ideology any favours....


I guess they're compensating for something, I mean look at the Aryan supermen Himmler, Hitler, Goebbels and Goering ffs.

Hitler was pretty normal looking and Goering was good looking when he was young.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:36 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Incel too?


It's funny because incels come from the same crowd that harps on the Alpha and Beta male concept. Then claim high "testosterone" and that liberal men are lacking.

Okay buddy. That's why you all look like undesirable neck-bearded fat fucks


Usually the guys who say they're alpha as shit are the biggest betas

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:38 pm

Diopolis wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again- the only way to curtail mass shootings is to ban all reporting of them, and enforce the ban.

Streisand Effect. That Is All.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:38 pm

Duhon wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We just came back from a funeral. What’s the latest on this?


people dead and injured because fuck it if there ever was a point to this madness


Some waste of air on earth killed 19 people and injured 40. They were innocent and their only crime was being a different race from this dude
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:40 pm

Second Amendment has created a Shootopia.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:41 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Second Amendment has created a Shootopia.

Fortnite, the Real Life Edition.

I can't wait to see how Donnie bungles the response assuming he isn't leashed to a prewritten speech.
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Postby Vetalia » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:42 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Vetalia wrote:
I guess they're compensating for something, I mean look at the Aryan supermen Himmler, Hitler, Goebbels and Goering ffs.

Hitler was pretty normal looking and Goering was good looking when he was young.


Yeah, but Hitler was loaded up on drugs and also riddled with health problems that would have gotten him euthanized under Aktion T4 if he weren't the Fuhrer. And Goering was institutionalized as a drug addict during his early Nazi career, again another candidate for Aktion T4.
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