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Tombradyonia wrote:

Cruciland wrote:Perhaps this is just my anecdote and nothing more, but even in the conservative Southern United States, the public schools and universities here regularly plaster the walls with liberal messages advertising things like seminars on racialized emotions and celebrations of Hispanic LGBTQ+ students. Students at my university have to go through mandatory courses before attending college on "sexual harassment and consent," which is a complete joke that tries to sterilize every normal interaction between couples and friends in a manner directly akin to what many SJWs encourage. Whenever relevant, anything from humanities courses to life science courses will inevitably force the progressive view on things like history, sociology, and the environment on students because of public academia's rich, well-documented ties to progressive politicians who advocate stuffing these schools and universities with cash. Public education has become a joke, and anything connected to government-funded academia (including scientific associations and journals) has been politicized thanks to the Establishment's rampant cronyism.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Which is exactly why the right wing created phrases like "fake news" and "alternative facts".

So the CCVW*s encourage private schools so they can force the contents of the Wholly Babble™ on impressionable kids.

* conservative christian value warriors

Just think at how science keeps disagreeing with conservatives. Hell, just the theory of evolution alone has and continues to cause bitterness in the right wing because their Wholly Babble™ stories such as Genesis are essentially being mocked for the contradictory nonsense it really is.

Sorry conservatives, facts don't care about your feelings.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Tombradyonia wrote:
Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Which is exactly why the right wing created phrases like "fake news" and "alternative facts".

So the CCVW*s encourage private schools so they can force the contents of the Wholly Babble™ on impressionable kids.

* conservative christian value warriors

Just think at how science keeps disagreeing with conservatives. Hell, just the theory of evolution alone has and continues to cause bitterness in the right wing because their Wholly Babble™ stories such as Genesis are essentially being mocked for the contradictory nonsense it really is.

Sorry conservatives, facts don't care about your feelings.

That moment when in 2019 you still think Conservatives are just Bible thumpers.

You're about a decade or two out of touch.

Tombradyonia wrote:

Cruciland wrote:Perhaps this is just my anecdote and nothing more, but even in the conservative Southern United States, the public schools and universities here regularly plaster the walls with liberal messages advertising things like seminars on racialized emotions and celebrations of Hispanic LGBTQ+ students. Students at my university have to go through mandatory courses before attending college on "sexual harassment and consent," which is a complete joke that tries to sterilize every normal interaction between couples and friends in a manner directly akin to what many SJWs encourage. Whenever relevant, anything from humanities courses to life science courses will inevitably force the progressive view on things like history, sociology, and the environment on students because of public academia's rich, well-documented ties to progressive politicians who advocate stuffing these schools and universities with cash. Public education has become a joke, and anything connected to government-funded academia (including scientific associations and journals) has been politicized thanks to the Establishment's rampant cronyism.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Which is exactly why the right wing created phrases like "fake news" and "alternative facts". And then proceed to lie to your face without blinking.
"This crowd is the biggest ever"! Then you show them pictures of actual bigger crowds. "Fake news!"
"Trump is so badass, he never settles court cases". Then you show them the court record of 1,200+ settlements. "Fake news!"

It's gotten so bad they just flat out deny easily provable facts.

Anyway, back to schools. So the CCVWs* encourage private schools so they can force the contents of the Wholly Babble™ on impressionable kids.

* conservative christian value warriors

Just think at how science keeps disagreeing with conservatives. Hell, just the theory of evolution alone has and continues to cause bitterness in the right wing because their Wholly Babble™ stories such as Genesis are essentially being mocked for the contradictory nonsense it really is.

Sorry conservatives, facts don't care about your feelings.

Cruciland wrote:

Tombradyonia wrote:
Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Which is exactly why the right wing created phrases like "fake news" and "alternative facts". And then proceed to lie to your face without blinking.
"This crowd is the biggest ever"! Then you show them pictures of actual bigger crowds. "Fake news!"
"Trump is so badass, he never settles court cases". Then you show them the court record of 1,200+ settlements. "Fake news!"

It's gotten so bad they just flat out deny easily provable facts.

Anyway, back to schools. So the CCVWs* encourage private schools so they can force the contents of the Wholly Babble™ on impressionable kids.

* conservative christian value warriors

Just think at how science keeps disagreeing with conservatives. Hell, just the theory of evolution alone has and continues to cause bitterness in the right wing because their Wholly Babble™ stories such as Genesis are essentially being mocked for the contradictory nonsense it really is.

Sorry conservatives, facts don't care about your feelings.

The examples contained within my sources highlight many instances where facts don't care about liberals' feelings. And more to the point, the reality uncovered by independent institutions that evolved outside of the cronyist system routinely disprove the progressive ideology.

While you are correct in that evolution is valid, you would be sorely mistaken to say that the Holy Bible is automatically contradictory nonsense. Countless Christians have moved on to reconciling Biblical stories with our archeological and scientific evidence, with immense success rates.

The same cannot be said for liberal ideology without them relying upon substantial censorship and historical revisionism, which we see regularly occurring in the public universities.

Reality has no liberal bias. That is an INGSOC-tier liberal invention formed by the self-congratulating Establishment in an attempt to discredit all opposition. What you believe in is a political religion, no different in its suppression of "heresy" than the Catholic Church which preceded the modern scientific/academic community and its bias.

Tombradyonia wrote:

Strahcoin wrote:No. It would mean a greater strain on the taxpayers.

The military is a far greater strain. Also, corporate welfare.

The Great Boom wrote:No.

The reason you probably think the answer is yes is because you're conflating the demographic reality of young people, who are very liberal, with the institutions they attend.

If you look at what bias actually means, then the institutions and the students have every kind of bias, but since I'm sure you're asking "are schools overwhelmingly biased toward the left" the answer is absolutely not. It's just that students are slightly more liberal than conservative because conservative politicians don't represent their interests at all, and liberal politicians at least sometimes do.

Just look at the issues the typical college student cares about: student debt, housing, climate change, wages, social justice. Why on earth would they be conservatives?

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Tombradyonia wrote:
Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Which is exactly why the right wing created phrases like "fake news" and "alternative facts".

So the CCVW*s encourage private schools so they can force the contents of the Wholly Babble™ on impressionable kids.

* conservative christian value warriors

Just think at how science keeps disagreeing with conservatives. Hell, just the theory of evolution alone has and continues to cause bitterness in the right wing because their Wholly Babble™ stories such as Genesis are essentially being mocked for the contradictory nonsense it really is.

Sorry conservatives, facts don't care about your feelings.

That moment when in 2019 you still think Conservatives are just Bible thumpers.

You're about a decade or two out of touch.

Strahcoin wrote:

Tombradyonia wrote:
The military is a far greater strain. Also, corporate welfare.

No, social welfare programs drain the most taxpayer money down the drain.

Military spending is necessary in order to defend our nation from others, which are more authoritarian than ours.

I generally prefer a free market over corporate welfare. I suppose we can both agree to lower economic subsidies.

The Great Boom wrote:No.

The reason you probably think the answer is yes is because you're conflating the demographic reality of young people, who are very liberal, with the institutions they attend.

If you look at what bias actually means, then the institutions and the students have every kind of bias, but since I'm sure you're asking "are schools overwhelmingly biased toward the left" the answer is absolutely not. It's just that students are slightly more liberal than conservative because conservative politicians don't represent their interests at all, and liberal politicians at least sometimes do.

Just look at the issues the typical college student cares about: student debt, housing, climate change, wages, social justice. Why on earth would they be conservatives?

Because conservatives believe in self-responsibility.

Strahcoin wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
That moment when in 2019 you still think Conservatives are just Bible thumpers.

You're about a decade or two out of touch.

Centuries, perhaps.

Necroghastia wrote:

Strahcoin wrote:No, social welfare programs drain the most taxpayer money down the drain.

Military spending is necessary in order to defend our nation from others, which are more authoritarian than ours.

I generally prefer a free market over corporate welfare. I suppose we can both agree to lower economic subsidies.


Because conservatives believe in self-responsibility.

Ah yes, corporate lobbying and tax cuts for the richest citizens just scream "self-responsibility."

Necroghastia wrote:

Strahcoin wrote:No, social welfare programs drain the most taxpayer money down the drain.

Military spending is necessary in order to defend our nation from others, which are more authoritarian than ours.

I generally prefer a free market over corporate welfare. I suppose we can both agree to lower economic subsidies.


Because conservatives believe in self-responsibility.

Ah yes, corporate lobbying and tax cuts for the richest citizens just scream "self-responsibility."

Necroghastia wrote:

Strahcoin wrote:Centuries, perhaps.

y'all have never been to alabama huh

Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, they do.

It needs to be ended, preferably by firing entrenched far-left professors and teachers who spew their cancerous views around the classroom.

Strahcoin wrote:

Tombradyonia wrote:
The military is a far greater strain. Also, corporate welfare.

No, social welfare programs drain the most taxpayer money down the drain.

Military spending is necessary in order to defend our nation from others, which are more authoritarian than ours.

I generally prefer a free market over corporate welfare. I suppose we can both agree to lower economic subsidies.

The Great Boom wrote:No.

The reason you probably think the answer is yes is because you're conflating the demographic reality of young people, who are very liberal, with the institutions they attend.

If you look at what bias actually means, then the institutions and the students have every kind of bias, but since I'm sure you're asking "are schools overwhelmingly biased toward the left" the answer is absolutely not. It's just that students are slightly more liberal than conservative because conservative politicians don't represent their interests at all, and liberal politicians at least sometimes do.

Just look at the issues the typical college student cares about: student debt, housing, climate change, wages, social justice. Why on earth would they be conservatives?

Because conservatives believe in self-responsibility.

Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, they do.

It needs to be ended, preferably by firing entrenched far-left professors and teachers who spew their cancerous views around the classroom.

Necroghastia wrote:

Strahcoin wrote:Centuries, perhaps.

y'all have never been to alabama huh

Tombradyonia wrote:

Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, they do.

It needs to be ended, preferably by firing entrenched far-left professors and teachers who spew their cancerous views around the classroom.

I suppose they should then be replaced by far-right professors and teachers who will then spew their cancerous views around the classroom?

Also, paranoid, much?

Neko-koku wrote:

Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, they do.

It needs to be ended, preferably by firing entrenched far-left professors and teachers who spew their cancerous views around the classroom.

Sure as long as you agree to keep secular and occasionally gay STEM researchers.

Nova Cyberia wrote:

Neko-koku wrote:Sure as long as you agree to keep secular and occasionally gay STEM researchers.

Okay.

Necroghastia wrote:

Cruciland wrote:The examples contained within my sources highlight many instances where facts don't care about liberals' feelings. And more to the point, the reality uncovered by independent institutions that evolved outside of the cronyist system routinely disprove the progressive ideology.

Source?

The same cannot be said for liberal ideology without them relying upon substantial censorship and historical revisionism, which we see regularly occurring in the public universities.

Marinara?

Necroghastia wrote:

While you are correct in that evolution is valid, you would be sorely mistaken to say that the Holy Bible is automatically contradictory nonsense. Countless Christians have moved on to reconciling Biblical stories with our archeological and scientific evidence, with immense success rates.

Sauce?

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:
y'all have never been to alabama huh

I mean just because SOME conservatives are Bible thumpers doesn't mean all are.

Tobleste wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
I mean just because SOME conservatives are Bible thumpers doesn't mean all are.

Good point. Some are racists, some are misogynists and some are greedy rich people (Trump is all 3 and still not a bible thumper for example).*

*This applies to US conservatives, not non American,1st world conservatives who do have compassion for people not 99% similar to them.