Do Schools Have Liberal Bias?

[Marquisal]

No, I talk about beeing indoctrinated to love Islam in religion class for one entire year, without beeing teached about Christianity.

Sounds iffy. Maybe if you live in a conservative Muslim country, I guess.

I live in Sweden, so yes. How misserable is life...

[Pacomia]

No, I talk about beeing indoctrinated to love Islam in religion class for one entire year, without beeing teached about Christianity.

Sounds iffy. Maybe if you live in a conservative Muslim country, I guess.

I talk about leftism, the day before we were teached about Christianity, but they made it be seemed as something else, not as how it should be teached. We even had to paint a black Jesus in art class to be inclussive. That's not liberalism, that's leftism.

You clearly have no idea what leftism is.

Leftism≠Multiculturalism. That's not really multiculturalism either, though, that's just insane other-culturalism where instead of being inclusive they just stop including the predominant culture and instead teach something else entirely.

[Heloin]

I was once sent to the principle for not standing for the Pledge. I wasn't even American yet.

The Pledge of Allegiance is just weird. I've gotten in trouble for not doing it a few times, it just became easier to stand.

I didn't know I was expected to stand, it was only my second month in the American schooling system.

[San Lumen]

Sounds iffy. Maybe if you live in a conservative Muslim country, I guess.

You clearly have no idea what leftism is.

Leftism≠Multiculturalism. That's not really multiculturalism either, though, that's just insane other-culturalism where instead of being inclusive they just stop including the predominant culture and instead teach something else entirely.

Irrelevant to the topic

[Marquisal]

Sounds iffy. Maybe if you live in a conservative Muslim country, I guess.

You clearly have no idea what leftism is.

Leftism≠Multiculturalism. That's not really multiculturalism either, though, that's just insane other-culturalism where instead of being inclusive they just stop including the predominant culture and instead teach something else entirely.

Leftism of today loves all of that multicultural things. Left, as well as feminism and everything, has changed from it's origins until now days it has no relation with the original one.

[Pacomia]

I was going to talk about it being authoritarian, but I had a feeling everyone else would just yell at me for 47 years after I said that. Thanks for paving the way.

I've already established myself as the resident SJW (see avatar), so it's okay for me to do it.

Always thought that was sarcasm. I'm anti-SJW, because I think too many of them throw logic, reasoning, and common sense out the window in favour of extremism, violence, and regressivism. Many are just as intolerant as the far-right types.

[Cekoviu]

Sounds iffy. Maybe if you live in a conservative Muslim country, I guess.

I live in Sweden, so yes. How misserable is life...

>Sweden
>conservative Muslim country
nice meme

Perhaps they merely assumed students would already know about Christianity, so they focused on the second most common religion. Or they were consumed with Swedish white guilt and they needed to rectify that - as much as it pains me to say, there is some element of that. Sköldpaddor.

[Pacomia]

Leftism≠Multiculturalism. That's not really multiculturalism either, though, that's just insane other-culturalism where instead of being inclusive they just stop including the predominant culture and instead teach something else entirely.

Leftism of today loves all of that multicultural things. Left, as well as feminism and everything, has changed from it's origins until now days it has no relation with the original one.

Disagree. I'm a leftist, but not as much a feminist or a multiculturalist.

[Cekoviu]

Sounds iffy. Maybe if you live in a conservative Muslim country, I guess.

You clearly have no idea what leftism is.

Leftism≠Multiculturalism. That's not really multiculturalism either, though, that's just insane other-culturalism where instead of being inclusive they just stop including the predominant culture and instead teach something else entirely.

Ah, I almost wrote out a contradictory response until I saw that it was a neq sign, not an equal sign. I really need glasses.

I've already established myself as the resident SJW (see avatar), so it's okay for me to do it.

Always thought that was sarcasm. I'm anti-SJW, because I think too many of them throw logic, reasoning, and common sense out the window in favour of extremism, violence, and regressivism. Many are just as intolerant as the far-right types.

Contrary to that, I am an SJW solely because I care about logic and reasoning (common sense isn't really a good thing to base ideologies around, because it's often wrong).

[Marquisal]

Leftism of today loves all of that multicultural things. Left, as well as feminism and everything, has changed from it's origins until now days it has no relation with the original one.

Disagree. I'm a leftist, but not as much a feminist or a multiculturalist.

So you may like old leftism, but the "leftist" leaders of today are extremely different from those of the past and their ideas.
There are also many types of leftism, with each type each own ideas and rules. World is complicated.

[Heloin]

You mean describing cultures in history classes and not indoctrinating children to completely hate anyone who doesn't look or think exactly like them? Woe is me.

No, I talk about beeing indoctrinated to love Islam in religion class for one entire year, without beeing teached about Christianity.

I'm willing to bet you weren't being indoctrinated to love islam. That instead you were being taught about it and you're interpreting them not calling it the cause of all evil in the world as indoctrination.

I talk about leftism, the day before we were teached about Christianity, but they made it be seemed as something else, not as how it should be teached. We even had to paint a black Jesus in art class to be inclussive. That's not liberalism, that's leftism.

[x] doubt

Sounds iffy. Maybe if you live in a conservative Muslim country, I guess.

I live in Sweden, so yes. How misserable is life...

Oh, how edgy.

[Marquisal]

I live in Sweden, so yes. How misserable is life...

>Sweden
>conservative Muslim country
nice meme

Perhaps they merely assumed students would already know about Christianity, so they focused on the second most common religion. Or they were consumed with Swedish white guilt and they needed to rectify that - as much as it pains me to say, there is some element of that. Sköldpaddor.

That is not a meme, it is a sad reality. At least in holydays I am not suffering that crazy and biased sillyness of education...

[Cekoviu]

Disagree. I'm a leftist, but not as much a feminist or a multiculturalist.

So you may like old leftism, but the "leftist" leaders of today are extremely different from those of the past and their ideas.
There are also many types of leftism, with each type each own ideas and rules. World is complicated.

This directly contradicts your other posts where you stereotype leftism...

[Alvecia]

Depends on how you're defining liberal and conservative I suppose.

[Pacomia]

Disagree. I'm a leftist, but not as much a feminist or a multiculturalist.

So you may like old leftism, but the "leftist" leaders of today are extremely different from those of the past and their ideas.
There are also many types of leftism, with each type each own ideas and rules. World is complicated.

I think you're confusing leftism in general with people who are multiculturalist and feminist and also happen to be leftists. Chances are, all/nearly all multiculturalists and feminists are leftists, but not all leftists are multiculturalists and feminists. There are still plenty of- even modern- leftists that don't think those are important.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Holy shit, seriously?

Yeah, he was big into antifa and the liberal stuff.

Antifa contains people far to liberalism's left, so that guy is very extreme. So far, in college, even though most of my professors were left-wing, no one has gone quite that far.

[Cekoviu]

>Sweden
>conservative Muslim country
nice meme

Perhaps they merely assumed students would already know about Christianity, so they focused on the second most common religion. Or they were consumed with Swedish white guilt and they needed to rectify that - as much as it pains me to say, there is some element of that. Sköldpaddor.

That is not a meme, it is a sad reality.

8% at most of Sweden was Muslim in 2016, so excuse me if I'm rather skeptical of that.

At least in holydays I am not suffering that crazy and biased sillyness of education...

Holydays are the best, yes. I especially love Ramadan.

[Pacomia]

At least in holydays I am not suffering that crazy and biased sillyness of education...

Holydays are the best, yes. I especially love Ramadan.

good one

[Marquisal]

No, I talk about beeing indoctrinated to love Islam in religion class for one entire year, without beeing teached about Christianity.

I'm willing to bet you weren't being indoctrinated to love islam. That instead you were being taught about it and you're interpreting them not calling it the cause of all evil in the world as indoctrination.

I talk about leftism, the day before we were teached about Christianity, but they made it be seemed as something else, not as how it should be teached. We even had to paint a black Jesus in art class to be inclussive. That's not liberalism, that's leftism.

[x] doubt

I live in Sweden, so yes. How misserable is life...

Oh, how edgy.

You have doubts on that because you live far away from this islamic crazyness, but in my life it has happened. And yes, it was indoctrination, one day the teacher of religion (and also history) brought to us an strange muslim hat and he wanted all of us to wear it. I refused it so he was angry with me and tried to explain me why I was disrespectful towards "Allah, the god that belongs to the future"

[Pacomia]

I'm willing to bet you weren't being indoctrinated to love islam. That instead you were being taught about it and you're interpreting them not calling it the cause of all evil in the world as indoctrination.


[x] doubt


Oh, how edgy.

You have doubts on that because you live far away from this islamic crazyness, but in my life it has happened. And yes, it was indoctrination, one day the teacher of religion (and also history) brought to us an strange muslim hat and he wanted all of us to wear it. I refused it so he was angry with me and tried to explain me why I was disrespectful towards "Allah, the god that belongs to the future"

Pretty sure that's borderline illegal if you were in public schools, so, uhhh... yeah.

[Alvecia]

I'm willing to bet you weren't being indoctrinated to love islam. That instead you were being taught about it and you're interpreting them not calling it the cause of all evil in the world as indoctrination.


[x] doubt


Oh, how edgy.

You have doubts on that because you live far away from this islamic crazyness, but in my life it has happened. And yes, it was indoctrination, one day the teacher of religion (and also history) brought to us an strange muslim hat and he wanted all of us to wear it. I refused it so he was angry with me and tried to explain me why I was disrespectful towards "Allah, the god that belongs to the future"

Respectfully, I don't believe you.

[Cekoviu]

I'm willing to bet you weren't being indoctrinated to love islam. That instead you were being taught about it and you're interpreting them not calling it the cause of all evil in the world as indoctrination.


[x] doubt


Oh, how edgy.

You have doubts on that because you live far away from this islamic crazyness, but in my life it has happened. And yes, it was indoctrination, one day the teacher of religion (and also history) brought to us an strange muslim hat and he wanted all of us to wear it. I refused it so he was angry with me and tried to explain me why I was disrespectful towards "Allah, the god that belongs to the future"

Not really appropriate for a teacher, although the scenario of bringing in a "strange muslim hat" for students to wear is pretty damn hilarious.
Though yeah, this is almost certainly exaggerated.

[Heloin]

I'm willing to bet you weren't being indoctrinated to love islam. That instead you were being taught about it and you're interpreting them not calling it the cause of all evil in the world as indoctrination.


[x] doubt


Oh, how edgy.

You have doubts on that because you live far away from this islamic crazyness, but in my life it has happened. And yes, it was indoctrination, one day the teacher of religion (and also history) brought to us an strange muslim hat and he wanted all of us to wear it. I refused it so he was angry with me and tried to explain me why I was disrespectful towards "Allah, the god that belongs to the future"

Sure, that definitely happened.

[Marquisal]

So you may like old leftism, but the "leftist" leaders of today are extremely different from those of the past and their ideas.
There are also many types of leftism, with each type each own ideas and rules. World is complicated.

I think you're confusing leftism in general with people who are multiculturalist and feminist and also happen to be leftists. Chances are, all/nearly all multiculturalists and feminists are leftists, but not all leftists are multiculturalists and feminists. There are still plenty of- even modern- leftists that don't think those are important.

I know that you do not have to be feminist and multiculturalist to be a leftist, leftism existed long ago, while this concepts are modern.
But as the left has been divided a lot of times, the "new left" the progressive left, is what I was talking about.

[Cekoviu]

Holydays are the best, yes. I especially love Ramadan.

good one

Tack.