Do Schools Have Liberal Bias?

[Jolthig]

Eh, I disagree. I was taught how bad communism was and that America is the land of the free, home of the brave. While, yes, they've generally became more liberal the past decade, they're more "muh freedom"-biased than liberal.

[Kynor]

Idk if there's a massive bias, in my school they taught us the fucked up shit during communism such as how the Soviets starved millions of Ukrainians and I live in one of the more liberal places in America

[Necroghastia]

Source?

Marinara?

I listed a good number of sources exposing this cronyism and collusion. Why not read them?

I just saw a bunch of opinion pieces. Not actual sources. Certainly not anything that disproves "progressive ideology" or substantiates your claim of rampant "censorship and historical revisionism."

[The Emerald Legion]

I mean just because SOME conservatives are Bible thumpers doesn't mean all are.

Good point. Some are racists, some are misogynists and some are greedy rich people (Trump is all 3 and still not a bible thumper for example).*

*This applies to US conservatives, not non American,1st world conservatives who do have compassion for people not 99% similar to them.

Most of the greed in America is from the poor. Not the rich.

[Necroghastia]

Good point. Some are racists, some are misogynists and some are greedy rich people (Trump is all 3 and still not a bible thumper for example).*

*This applies to US conservatives, not non American,1st world conservatives who do have compassion for people not 99% similar to them.

Most of the greed in America is from the poor. Not the rich.

I legitimately have no idea how to respond to this. There's no way anyone can seriously say that with a straight face.

[Cruciland]

I listed a good number of sources exposing this cronyism and collusion. Why not read them?

I just saw a bunch of opinion pieces. Not actual sources. Certainly not anything that disproves "progressive ideology" or substantiates your claim of rampant "censorship and historical revisionism."

You'd be hard-pressed to find a "source" that doesn't give an opinion on the matter. You're better off looking at the actual stories, surveys, facts, statistics, and citations provided in the opinionated piece than trying to write it off. If you think that a good source exists which can cover this subject in an unbiased manner, then go ahead and find such a "source" describing the nature and prevalence of leftist ideology in academia.

Don't worry, I'll have a forum weapon ready by the time you get back.

[Strahcoin]

I mean just because SOME conservatives are Bible thumpers doesn't mean all are.

Good point. Some are racists, some are misogynists and some are greedy rich people (Trump is all 3 and still not a bible thumper for example).*

*This applies to US conservatives, not non American,1st world conservatives who do have compassion for people not 99% similar to them.

If Trump's a racist, he's really bad at it. Didn't he sign a measure "to create a new national historic park for Martin Luther King, Jr."?

And last time I checked, greedy rich people don't refuse to accept their salary as president.

Most of the greed in America is from the poor. Not the rich.

I legitimately have no idea how to respond to this. There's no way anyone can seriously say that with a straight face.

Barring maybe mega-corporations and government elitists, rich people don't take government welfare benefits.

[Cekoviu]

Good point. Some are racists, some are misogynists and some are greedy rich people (Trump is all 3 and still not a bible thumper for example).*

*This applies to US conservatives, not non American,1st world conservatives who do have compassion for people not 99% similar to them.

And you're little more than a bigot.

I find it very odd that you throw bigot around with no basis and then complain when people do the same to you.

[Cekoviu]

Good point. Some are racists, some are misogynists and some are greedy rich people (Trump is all 3 and still not a bible thumper for example).*

*This applies to US conservatives, not non American,1st world conservatives who do have compassion for people not 99% similar to them.

If Trump's a racist, he's really bad at it. Didn't he sign a measure "to create a new national historic park for Martin Luther King, Jr."?

>assuming that white people can only be racist against black people and that virtue signalling doesn't exist
Wow, you're really starting to sound like a stereotypical SJW

[Cekoviu]

I just saw a bunch of opinion pieces. Not actual sources. Certainly not anything that disproves "progressive ideology" or substantiates your claim of rampant "censorship and historical revisionism."

You'd be hard-pressed to find a "source" that doesn't give an opinion on the matter. You're better off looking at the actual stories, surveys, facts, statistics, and citations provided in the opinionated piece than trying to write it off. If you think that a good source exists which can cover this subject in an unbiased manner, then go ahead and find such a "source" describing the nature and prevalence of leftist ideology in academia.

Don't worry, I'll have a forum weapon ready by the time you get back.

Those goalposts are somehow exceeding the speed of light there. First claiming indoctrination, censorship, and historical revisionism, and then moving to "prevalence of leftist ideology." Pretty good indicator that you're wrong if you have to move them that far.

[Strahcoin]

If Trump's a racist, he's really bad at it. Didn't he sign a measure "to create a new national historic park for Martin Luther King, Jr."?

>assuming that white people can only be racist against black people and that virtue signalling doesn't exist
Wow, you're really starting to sound like a stereotypical SJW

Huh?

[Cekoviu]

>assuming that white people can only be racist against black people and that virtue signalling doesn't exist
Wow, you're really starting to sound like a stereotypical SJW

Huh?

The point being that making a national park in honor of MLKJ is mere virtue signalling, not proof that he's a benevolent proponent of racial equality. Actions, not words.

[The Archipelago Territory]

Neither left-wing ideology nor right wing ideology is "fact" or "fiction." They're ideologies. Nor is one or the other inherently scientific or inherently religious. And trickle down economics is something no one actually believes.

Right-wing ideologues in the states tend to deny observable scientific facts like climate change or evolution (both of which have sparked intense debate that should never have existed) and often consider the teaching of either "left-wing propaganda"

Anti-intellectualism and science illiteracy is a thing that usually ignores political identity, but for some reason it's clung a lot more to the modern Republican Party. The GOP also will tend to downplay the arts in favor of more "marketable" skills, all while broadly defunding public education and being in favor of charter schools.

It really doesn't take a whole lot of brain calories to figure out why most teachers would be more reliable to vote Democratic.

Not true. I am a Republican irl and believe in climate change. However nothing can be done here in the US since India and China are behind 95% of it and literally refuse to do anything.

[Strahcoin]

Huh?

The point being that making a national park in honor of MLKJ is mere virtue signalling, not proof that he's a benevolent proponent of racial equality. Actions, not words.

Does that mean that the Democrat Party might merely be virtue signalling?

Anyways, at least Trump didn't do anything that implies racism.

[Cekoviu]

Right-wing ideologues in the states tend to deny observable scientific facts like climate change or evolution (both of which have sparked intense debate that should never have existed) and often consider the teaching of either "left-wing propaganda"

Anti-intellectualism and science illiteracy is a thing that usually ignores political identity, but for some reason it's clung a lot more to the modern Republican Party. The GOP also will tend to downplay the arts in favor of more "marketable" skills, all while broadly defunding public education and being in favor of charter schools.

It really doesn't take a whole lot of brain calories to figure out why most teachers would be more reliable to vote Democratic.

Not true. I am a Republican irl and believe in climate change. However nothing can be done here in the US since India and China are behind 95% of it and literally refuse to do anything.

The United States produces nearly half of China's CO₂ emissions per year despite having less than a third of its population and contributes 13.77% of total CO₂ emissions per year despite having >5% of the world's population, with China and India together producing 35.96% of CO₂ emissions. source
This statement is simply contrary to reality; have you even done any reading whatsoever of the statistics?

[Cekoviu]

The point being that making a national park in honor of MLKJ is mere virtue signalling, not proof that he's a benevolent proponent of racial equality. Actions, not words.

Does that mean that the Democrat Party might merely be virtue signalling?

In a vacuum? Yes.
And it's the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party.

Anyways, at least Trump didn't do anything that implies racism.

Haven't laughed this hard in a while, thanks.

[The Archipelago Territory]

Not true. I am a Republican irl and believe in climate change. However nothing can be done here in the US since India and China are behind 95% of it and literally refuse to do anything.

The United States produces nearly half of China's CO₂ emissions per year despite having less than a third of its population and contributes 13.77% of total CO₂ emissions per year despite having >5% of the world's population, with China and India together producing 35.96% of CO₂ emissions. source
This statement is simply contrary to reality; have you even done any reading whatsoever of the statistics?

Let me research but I saw this on Fox News so I do know that.

[Cekoviu]

The United States produces nearly half of China's CO₂ emissions per year despite having less than a third of its population and contributes 13.77% of total CO₂ emissions per year despite having >5% of the world's population, with China and India together producing 35.96% of CO₂ emissions. source
This statement is simply contrary to reality; have you even done any reading whatsoever of the statistics?

Let me research but I saw this on Fox News so I do know that.

Please don't listen to Fox News on something like this. They have strong reasons to obfuscate the facts of climate change.

[The Archipelago Territory]

Let me research but I saw this on Fox News so I do know that.

Please don't listen to Fox News on something like this. They have strong reasons to obfuscate the facts of climate change.

Yeah I don’t trust them on climate change when they say it doesn’t exist but CNN is a lot worse when it comes to twisting facts

[The Archipelago Territory]

Please don't listen to Fox News on something like this. They have strong reasons to obfuscate the facts of climate change.

Yeah I don’t trust them on climate change when they say it doesn’t exist but CNN is a lot worse when it comes to twisting facts

I don’t trust them on climate change but I doubt they would make up a statistic

[Highever]

Yeah I don’t trust them on climate change when they say it doesn’t exist but CNN is a lot worse when it comes to twisting facts

I don’t trust them on climate change but I doubt they would make up a statistic

I mean you just said you arent surprised that another news outlet does, so why is Fox exempt from doing the same?

[Cekoviu]

Please don't listen to Fox News on something like this. They have strong reasons to obfuscate the facts of climate change.

Yeah I don’t trust them on climate change when they say it doesn’t exist but CNN is a lot worse when it comes to twisting facts

I don't like CNN much, but this is flatly untrue. CNN on Politifact vs FOX on Politifact - when combined, that puts CNN at 72% half true or better and 28% mostly false or worse, compared to 41% half true or better and 59% mostly false or worse for FOX. That's not just bad, that's fucking abysmal.

[The Archipelago Territory]

I don’t trust them on climate change but I doubt they would make up a statistic

I mean you just said you arent surprised that another news outlet does, so why is Fox exempt from doing the same?

Well idk but CNN is worse than fox because fox is actually more centrist some programs are liberal but really only the prime time programs are super conservative. I wouldn’t think they’d lie because they are the #1 watched News Channel but I guess I’m wrong. But a good point they had was that the left hated plastic straws but donates 12,000 plastic syringes a day

[Galloism]

Yeah I don’t trust them on climate change when they say it doesn’t exist but CNN is a lot worse when it comes to twisting facts

I don't like CNN much, but this is flatly untrue. CNN on Politifact vs FOX on Politifact - when combined, that puts CNN at 72% half true or better and 28% mostly false or worse, compared to 41% half true or better and 59% mostly false or worse for FOX. That's not just bad, that's fucking abysmal.

I still recall the absolutely hysterical study that showed people who don't watch the news are better informed than fox news viewers.

[Cekoviu]

I don't like CNN much, but this is flatly untrue. CNN on Politifact vs FOX on Politifact - when combined, that puts CNN at 72% half true or better and 28% mostly false or worse, compared to 41% half true or better and 59% mostly false or worse for FOX. That's not just bad, that's fucking abysmal.

I still recall the absolutely hysterical study that showed people who don't watch the news are better informed than fox news viewers.

Quite possibly the least surprising study I've ever seen.