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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:46 am

Does not exist in modern times

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If they did exist though, I'd put my money on Reddit Meme Makers.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:33 pm

Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?


I would do nothing. The world will progress into a richer, globalized society by itself. It already is doing so.



Condottieri International wrote:So where's the proof of there being an all powerful globalist organization?


OP is hypothesizing. The real Illuminati ceased to exist some 200 years ago.

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:46 pm

Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?

"It's time for conspiracy theories, kids!" :p

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Postby Condottieri International » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:09 pm

Anyone think China has an Illuminati equivalent? Or have they been infiltrated?

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Postby Lanoraie II » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:43 pm

Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?


>were real
>implying

They're called the Freemasons, dear. Also, the methods I'd use can be seen all around us irl.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:49 pm

Illuminati backwards is Itanimulli. In the middle of Itanimulli is anim. Anim is most of anime.

I for one welcome our Ghibli overlords.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:50 am

Condottieri International wrote:Anyone think China has an Illuminati equivalent? Or have they been infiltrated?


Do you mean a rich elite? China does have that.

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Postby Condottieri International » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:01 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:
Condottieri International wrote:Anyone think China has an Illuminati equivalent? Or have they been infiltrated?


Do you mean a rich elite? China does have that.


But are the businessmen holding the strings or communist party officials?

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Postby Thepeopl » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:44 am

Illuminati exists!
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:47 am

I love how people claim this secret society exists but they're still alive. Don't you think if they were real, they would already have killed you to silence you?

/thread right there. Illuminati isn't real, it's a failed attempt to make sense of the systems of power and influence in america through outdated conspiracy theories about the freemasons
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:48 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Condottieri International wrote:So if the Illuminati were real how would they keep their grip on power in democratic societies while trying to transform the world in the new world order aka a single global state? What would be the methods used if you wanted to make a change or maintain the globalization status quo?


I would do nothing. The world will progress into a richer, globalized society by itself. It already is doing so.



Condottieri International wrote:So where's the proof of there being an all powerful globalist organization?


OP is hypothesizing. The real Illuminati ceased to exist some 200 years ago.


Trade is globalised nowadays but when it comes to government, I think we're actually more divided now than 20 years ago, with all the african, South American and middle eastern nations torn apart by civil wars
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Postby First American Empire » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:28 am

Condottieri International wrote:So where's the proof of there being an all powerful globalist organization?


If we Globalists actually had an all-powerful organization, we wouldn't let nationalists like Trump, Putin, Duterte, Bolsonaro, Johnson, Erdogan, and Orban get into power and break everything.
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Postby Takso » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:08 pm

First American Empire wrote:
Condottieri International wrote:So where's the proof of there being an all powerful globalist organization?


If we Globalists actually had an all-powerful organization, we wouldn't let nationalists like Trump, Putin, Duterte, Bolsonaro, Johnson, Erdogan, and Orban get into power and break everything.


Agreed. I actually wish some of the conspiracies were true. Would be a lot easier and simple if we could just permanently retire those people from politics, or any position of influence really.

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Postby Ayytaly » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:13 pm

First American Empire wrote:
Condottieri International wrote:So where's the proof of there being an all powerful globalist organization?


If we Globalists actually had an all-powerful organization, we wouldn't let nationalists like Trump, Putin, Duterte, Bolsonaro, Johnson, Erdogan, and Orban get into power and break everything.


Trump isn't a nationalist. He's a globalist. He'll sell out the US as long as his name is marketed internationally. His MAGA rhetoric is purely for show, but he's been a globaliat for some time now.


Fun fact: Trump was bailed out by Rothschild Inc. in the early 90s. Yes, that Rothschild.
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Postby Takso » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:04 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
First American Empire wrote:
If we Globalists actually had an all-powerful organization, we wouldn't let nationalists like Trump, Putin, Duterte, Bolsonaro, Johnson, Erdogan, and Orban get into power and break everything.


Trump isn't a nationalist. He's a globalist. He'll sell out the US as long as his name is marketed internationally. His MAGA rhetoric is purely for show, but he's been a globaliat for some time now.


Fun fact: Trump was bailed out by Rothschild Inc. in the early 90s. Yes, that Rothschild.


No, he's not. A globalist seeks globalization, the process in which the world becomes evermore so interdependent. He has started a trade war with the second-largest economy in the world and advocates less involvement in international affairs. You know, I really wish the world was run by a secretive cabal of highly educated plutocrats. They would do a lot better of a job. Globalization could actually save humanity because it makes us reliant on each other, we're less likely to go to war when it means our economies will collapse as a result. We don't even need nuclear bombs anymore for "mutually assured destruction". We need to put aside the tribalism and recognize that the unprecedented growth that humanity has experienced since the Industrial Revolution has put our entire world at risk of ecological collapse. We need to act fast, and act together we absolutely must, or future generations will suffer. For those unwilling to contribute, they need to get out of the way.

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Postby Illuminati Triangle » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:08 pm

Hello.

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Postby Condottieri International » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:01 am

Anyone have statistics (ie how companies used to pay 40 % of taxes, now its 2%) about the financial evolution of the rich. Or juicy details like the FEMA camps. Details on western/Eastern countries would be appreciated.

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Postby GLDF » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:05 am

When conspiracy theorists talk about the illuminati, it's just a dog whistle. When other people talk about it, it's just a joke. In reality, it does not exist and has not fffor a very long time. Modern popularity was started by a satirical book.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:06 am

Ayytaly wrote:
First American Empire wrote:
If we Globalists actually had an all-powerful organization, we wouldn't let nationalists like Trump, Putin, Duterte, Bolsonaro, Johnson, Erdogan, and Orban get into power and break everything.


Trump isn't a nationalist. He's a globalist. He'll sell out the US as long as his name is marketed internationally. His MAGA rhetoric is purely for show, but he's been a globaliat for some time now.


Fun fact: Trump was bailed out by Rothschild Inc. in the early 90s. Yes, that Rothschild.


Trump used to be friends with the Clinton family too. This idea that trump is an all American freedom fighter is totally out of touch with reality. Trump is a globalist. He supports the rich in their battle against the poor
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Postby That one gay guy » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:10 am

We should dismantle the Illuminati and we will look sexy in the process.

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:11 am

Takso wrote:I, for one, endorse the New World Order, as envisioned similarly by H.G. Wells. It would be wondrous for mankind to be united under a single world government. Only then will every man, woman, and child be granted the Rights of Man.

The nationstate needs to be put first, a united world government will be a horrid mess
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:13 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Takso wrote:I, for one, endorse the New World Order, as envisioned similarly by H.G. Wells. It would be wondrous for mankind to be united under a single world government. Only then will every man, woman, and child be granted the Rights of Man.

The nationstate needs to be put first, a united world government will be a horrid mess


Considering that even nation states are having difficulty staying together in the year chaos A.D., I doubt one world government will ever happen within this millennium
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Postby MORBY SHIPPERS » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:16 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
Trump isn't a nationalist. He's a globalist. He'll sell out the US as long as his name is marketed internationally. His MAGA rhetoric is purely for show, but he's been a globaliat for some time now.


Fun fact: Trump was bailed out by Rothschild Inc. in the early 90s. Yes, that Rothschild.


Trump used to be friends with the Clinton family too. This idea that trump is an all American freedom fighter is totally out of touch with reality. Trump is a globalist. He supports the rich in their battle against the poor

I agree. Although admittedly it's weird seeing a right wing person understand this.

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Postby New yugoslavaia » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:16 am

The Illuminati are actually the good guys and they just want to enlighten everyone like they wanted to all those centuries ago.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:17 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The nationstate needs to be put first, a united world government will be a horrid mess


Considering that even nation states are having difficulty staying together in the year chaos A.D., I doubt one world government will ever happen within this millennium

In my worldview, the only time a united world government becomes feasible is when Earth is threatened by an extraterrestrial force. That will be the rallying cry that kickstarts the process, if it ever happens
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