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Postby Strahcoin » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:47 pm

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Strahcoin wrote:1. Both parties generally supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
2. Trump shows contempt for illegal immigrants. Watch a Trump rally, and you'll likely hear him talking about how we as a nation want immigrants, but they have to come in legally.
3. Then why do they oppose abortion, oppose economic regulations, oppose high taxes, support legal immigration, oppose minimum wage, etc.? And why did Trump pledge to refuse money from corporate lobbyists during his election campaign?
4. I know; Obama and Clinton strongly opposed illegal immigration and supported a wall before Trump decided to do likewise. Now, the moderate Democrat politicians are declining - replaced by extremists such as AOC and Bernie Sanders.
5. The Democrats couldn't settle for some good, so they decided to settle for no good, instead. Seems logical.
6. No, the Republicans (specifically Trump) called for them to leave the U.S. because they consistently demonstrate that they don't like it here.
7. The Republicans weren't the ones to demonize the "Christian white male" - or any race/sex/religion (excluding extremist violent ones) in general.


1. It was overwhelmingly opposed by the south which overwhelmingly became GOP. Look into to it and ask historians.
2. He generally proposes restrictions on all immigrants (and refugees), not just illegal. He also demanded a few non white politicians go back to the country's they're "from" because only white can be American apprently. The "oh, he only hates illegals" line is a lie that no one could actually believe unless they weren't paying attention. You're either lying or not paying attention.
3. They oppose abortion for religious reasons and everything else is down to a preference for rich people over the rest.
4. Obama and Clintin are moderates now? Funny. I remember them being America hating socialists. Like Sanders and AOC are. Give it 10 years and when the GOP are running Gamergate morons from 8 chan they'll argue AOC and Sanders are the moderates. Also, I'm pretty sure they supported fencing. Not Trumps Great Wall of Sexual Insecurity.
5. So by your logic, if Republicans offer Democrats a 1% improvement for immigrants and Democrats negotiate for more, Democrats hate immigrants and reoublicans don't? Reasonable.
6. No they haven't. Trump bitched about America for years. Was he told to go away by hundreds at Clinton rallies? No. Because Clinton supporters don't view white Americans as fake non-citizens.
7. I don't even see the point of that one.

1. It does seem strange. Possibly because some who opposed forced segregation also opposed forced integration. Or because the Democrat Party's new ideological base alienated numerous kinds of former Democrat voters.
Either way, it's unlikely, if not impossible, that the Republican Party would adopt a more racist rhetoric.
2. Because we're too lenient with our immigration policy. He told those politicians to go back to their countries not because they're non-white, but because they're unpatriotic. And the "oh, he only hates illegals" line is fairly accurate, although it could be improved by adding "and anti-Americans".
3. I oppose abortion, and I'm an atheist. I'm also middle-class.
4. The Democrat Party is radicalizing. Obama and Clinton are moderate relative to current extreme leftists such as AOC and Bernie Sanders. And fencing, barriers, wall, same concept.
5. Wasn't the bill in question referring to illegal immigrants? Because I'm pretty sure that any benefit for illegal immigrants is unfair for the hard-working American taxpayer (and the legal immigrants waiting in line).
6. Trump stated that he loved the country but not the government. The leftist politicians don't like the country.
7. The radical leftists in the Democrat Party (not all of them, of course) do seem to overuse identity politics and "white privilege" nonsense. Doesn't that seem kind of "racist"?

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Ilefeb wrote:Again, the Civil Rights Act had bipartisan support, both parties agreed to end segregation. So saying that the Republican Party is racist because they were the popular party in the south after the Civil Rights Act is also a silly argument.

We are not talking about Trump, we are talking about the Republican Party, if Republicans showed little concerns for the American people, no one would be Republican (because knock on wood, we are American), and it seems that more Democrats are taking more of a radical stance on immigration.

Once again, we are talking about the Republican Party, not Donald Trump. If the Democrats really thought the bill didn't do enough, they should've ammended it. They did not, they just voted it down and and continued to shout and complain about it and not do anything about immigration crisis.

No, it's because Kapernick knelt for the National Anthem and called all law enforcement officers pigs and Omar called the terrorist attacks on 9/11 just simply "someone who did something for our rights." Both are very disrespectful to our troops and first responders. Sure, it's free speech, but it's also free speech to call them out for those actions.

The Republican Party is not racist. You've yet to give me one Republican policy that is racist. There are racist Democrats. Do think the Democratic Party is racist because of it?


I went to reply to this after the other post I responded to. When I clicked on this tab and saw your last line, I've decided not to really bother or even read the full thing because I'm talking to a wall. I've explained why people view Republicans as racist and you're either not listening or don't care. I've explained why it's more than a few bad apples (it's the actual Republicans president ffs) and you respond the way most Republicans do; with a few talking points that wouldn't convince anyone with more than a 12 year olds education who didn't already agree with you because you don't seem to care about the truth. This is how you wound up with someone like trump (how can you be surprised that people think Republicans are idiotic bigots when they cheer the idiotic bigotry of an idiotic bigot?), why millions of Americans hate your party and why Republican presidents are frequently treated with either bemusement or contempt outside of America. Your party either doesn't think or doesn't care.

Next time someone calls Republicans bigots, don't ask them to explain why because you obviously don't really care why they think that or if it's true.

Your reasoning is faulty. Trump is not bigoted. He has made compromises. Also, he had campaigned to stop the prosecution of LGBT people in other nations; that sounds anti-bigoted.

The mainstream media has a reputation amongst conservatives of caring more about advancing their leftist agenda rather than spreading the truth. That's why Republicans have stopped listening to the hundreds/thousands of times CNN/MSNBC/etc. calls them racist/sexist/bigoted/homophobic/transphobic/xenophobic/anti-Semetic/Islamophobic/white nationalist/etc.
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Postby Fasma » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:47 pm

I support forced integration. The government should regulate who your neighbour is. People otherwise self-segregate and you get ethnic ghettos as a result.

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Postby Ilefeb » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:17 pm

Tobleste wrote:
Ilefeb wrote:Again, the Civil Rights Act had bipartisan support, both parties agreed to end segregation. So saying that the Republican Party is racist because they were the popular party in the south after the Civil Rights Act is also a silly argument.

We are not talking about Trump, we are talking about the Republican Party, if Republicans showed little concerns for the American people, no one would be Republican (because knock on wood, we are American), and it seems that more Democrats are taking more of a radical stance on immigration.

Once again, we are talking about the Republican Party, not Donald Trump. If the Democrats really thought the bill didn't do enough, they should've ammended it. They did not, they just voted it down and and continued to shout and complain about it and not do anything about immigration crisis.

No, it's because Kapernick knelt for the National Anthem and called all law enforcement officers pigs and Omar called the terrorist attacks on 9/11 just simply "someone who did something for our rights." Both are very disrespectful to our troops and first responders. Sure, it's free speech, but it's also free speech to call them out for those actions.

The Republican Party is not racist. You've yet to give me one Republican policy that is racist. There are racist Democrats. Do think the Democratic Party is racist because of it?


I went to reply to this after the other post I responded to. When I clicked on this tab and saw your last line, I've decided not to really bother or even read the full thing because I'm talking to a wall. I've explained why people view Republicans as racist and you're either not listening or don't care. I've explained why it's more than a few bad apples (it's the actual Republicans president ffs) and you respond the way most Republicans do; with a few talking points that wouldn't convince anyone with more than a 12 year olds education who didn't already agree with you because you don't seem to care about the truth. This is how you wound up with someone like trump (how can you be surprised that people think Republicans are idiotic bigots when they cheer the idiotic bigotry of an idiotic bigot?), why millions of Americans hate your party and why Republican presidents are frequently treated with either bemusement or contempt outside of America. Your party either doesn't think or doesn't care.

Next time someone calls Republicans bigots, don't ask them to explain why because you obviously don't really care why they think that or if it's true.

You know what, this is just bullshit. I'm not going to argue this anymore. You are probably also one of those people who said Trump is the reason why the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton happened instead of white supremacy.

You've pointed out a racism issue in America, and you should, there is no place for racism in America but, screaming Republicans are racist off of false primises and lies is just ridiculous. I assume you don't know anyone who has a conservative ideology because you obviously do not know who we are as people. I live in one of the most diverse places in America, I know many people that lean on both sides of the political spectrum. Not one of my friends who have liberal idealologies think that conservatives are racists, bigots, or sexists. It's disappointing that you believe that all Republicans are racist. Heck, you don't even know why I'm Republican yet you make that assumption that I'm a racist? Or a bigot? Or a sexiest? Or homophobic?

I don't know how you got to this extreme point. If you had a bad experience with someone who was a racist and associated himself as a Republican, then all I can say is sorry that happened to you, but it does not represent the Republican party. The main belief of the conservative ideology is to keep the government as traditional as possible and to keep the government as close as to how our Founding Fathers envisioned America. There is nothing racist about that.

George Washington called for the American people to remain independent to avoid exactly what is happening today. Whenever a problem arises, Washington wanted the American people to fix the problem as Americans and not blame the opposite party for it. Many of America's problems are caused by not enough unity. I would be happy to fight racism with you, but to start, we will need to put our differences aside. If we do that, and are not blinded by our political beliefs, we just might get to the heart of the issue.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:36 pm

I remember days before the 2016 election, sitting at lunch with some buddies and ruminating about the impending collapse of the GOP. Two days later, the GOP won the White House and now is effectively in control of the courts and has gerrymandered it's way into power further in numerous states.

So, no, the GOP isn't doomed, the Dems aren't doomed - any predictions about imminent "doom" for a political party are unfounded.

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Postby Fasma » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:40 pm

Ilefeb wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
I went to reply to this after the other post I responded to. When I clicked on this tab and saw your last line, I've decided not to really bother or even read the full thing because I'm talking to a wall. I've explained why people view Republicans as racist and you're either not listening or don't care. I've explained why it's more than a few bad apples (it's the actual Republicans president ffs) and you respond the way most Republicans do; with a few talking points that wouldn't convince anyone with more than a 12 year olds education who didn't already agree with you because you don't seem to care about the truth. This is how you wound up with someone like trump (how can you be surprised that people think Republicans are idiotic bigots when they cheer the idiotic bigotry of an idiotic bigot?), why millions of Americans hate your party and why Republican presidents are frequently treated with either bemusement or contempt outside of America. Your party either doesn't think or doesn't care.

Next time someone calls Republicans bigots, don't ask them to explain why because you obviously don't really care why they think that or if it's true.

You know what, this is just bullshit. I'm not going to argue this anymore. You are probably also one of those people who said Trump is the reason why the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton happened instead of white supremacy.

You've pointed out a racism issue in America, and you should, there is no place for racism in America but, screaming Republicans are racist off of false primises and lies is just ridiculous. I assume you don't know anyone who has a conservative ideology because you obviously do not know who we are as people. I live in one of the most diverse places in America, I know many people that lean on both sides of the political spectrum. Not one of my friends who have liberal idealologies think that conservatives are racists, bigots, or sexists. It's disappointing that you believe that all Republicans are racist. Heck, you don't even know why I'm Republican yet you make that assumption that I'm a racist? Or a bigot? Or a sexiest? Or homophobic?

I don't know how you got to this extreme point. If you had a bad experience with someone who was a racist and associated himself as a Republican, then all I can say is sorry that happened to you, but it does not represent the Republican party. The main belief of the conservative ideology is to keep the government as traditional as possible and to keep the government as close as to how our Founding Fathers envisioned America. There is nothing racist about that.

George Washington called for the American people to remain independent to avoid exactly what is happening today. Whenever a problem arises, Washington wanted the American people to fix the problem as Americans and not blame the opposite party for it. Many of America's problems are caused by not enough unity. I would be happy to fight racism with you, but to start, we will need to put our differences aside. If we do that, and are not blinded by our political beliefs, we just might get to the heart of the issue.


The Founding Fathers were slave owners (4 out of 7 I think if you want to get technical), the United States was founded on the forced assimilation and widespread murder of the indigenous peoples of North America. You literally had to have a Civil War just to end slavery. And then even that wasn't enough and blacks to this day in your country face systemic discrimination by the majority white population who some of whom like to pretend racism is no longer a problem because some magic piece of paper says all men are born equal, etcetera, etcetera.

Your Founding Fathers represent the past, their ideas are outdated and inappropriate. Same goes with both Republicans and Democrats who are constantly playing tug-of-war with each other and getting the country nowhere.

If you want to solve racism in America, let's start by acknowledging that by and large, being a black person in the United States is a disadvantage compared to being white. Donald Trump and some other members of the Republican Party have helped fuel the fires of the current rising racial tensions in your country. It's the Southern strategy repackaged, except this time the big bad boogeyman is the illegal Latino.

Trump is and always will be an opportunist, I don't think he even has an ideology, he's just exploiting xenophobic fears that already existed.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:40 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I remember days before the 2016 election, sitting at lunch with some buddies and ruminating about the impending collapse of the GOP. Two days later, the GOP won the White House and now is effectively in control of the courts and has gerrymandered it's way into power further in numerous states.

So, no, the GOP isn't doomed, the Dems aren't doomed - any predictions about imminent "doom" for a political party are unfounded.

Gerrymanders aren't permanent. They can be struck down via state courts which is likely to happen in North Carolina
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Yeah calling Baltimore a ratinfused place no human would want to live in and calling Mexican's invaders and telling black congresswomen to go back to their countries isn;'t racist at all. In regards to the last one its perfectly acceptable to tell US citizens to go back to crime infested and broken countries from whence they came? Three of them were born in the US. That's not racist to you?


Daily reminder, you have told me to move to Uzbekistan on more than one occasion. So by this standard, you're a racist.


And if you recall I said that in response to your despising of democracy and free and fair elections and not liking those who have a different point of view and their votes having equal value to yours.

I did not tell you do go back your country. There is a big difference between what I said and what Trump said

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:43 pm

Fasma wrote:
Ilefeb wrote:You know what, this is just bullshit. I'm not going to argue this anymore. You are probably also one of those people who said Trump is the reason why the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton happened instead of white supremacy.

You've pointed out a racism issue in America, and you should, there is no place for racism in America but, screaming Republicans are racist off of false primises and lies is just ridiculous. I assume you don't know anyone who has a conservative ideology because you obviously do not know who we are as people. I live in one of the most diverse places in America, I know many people that lean on both sides of the political spectrum. Not one of my friends who have liberal idealologies think that conservatives are racists, bigots, or sexists. It's disappointing that you believe that all Republicans are racist. Heck, you don't even know why I'm Republican yet you make that assumption that I'm a racist? Or a bigot? Or a sexiest? Or homophobic?

I don't know how you got to this extreme point. If you had a bad experience with someone who was a racist and associated himself as a Republican, then all I can say is sorry that happened to you, but it does not represent the Republican party. The main belief of the conservative ideology is to keep the government as traditional as possible and to keep the government as close as to how our Founding Fathers envisioned America. There is nothing racist about that.

George Washington called for the American people to remain independent to avoid exactly what is happening today. Whenever a problem arises, Washington wanted the American people to fix the problem as Americans and not blame the opposite party for it. Many of America's problems are caused by not enough unity. I would be happy to fight racism with you, but to start, we will need to put our differences aside. If we do that, and are not blinded by our political beliefs, we just might get to the heart of the issue.


The Founding Fathers were slave owners (4 out of 7 I think if you want to get technical), the United States was founded on the forced assimilation and widespread murder of the indigenous peoples of North America. You literally had to have a Civil War just to end slavery. And then even that wasn't enough and blacks to this day in your country face systemic discrimination by the majority white population who some of whom like to pretend racism is no longer a problem because some magic piece of paper says all men are born equal, etcetera, etcetera.

Your Founding Fathers represent the past, their ideas are outdated and inappropriate. Same goes with both Republicans and Democrats who are constantly playing tug-of-war with each other and getting the country nowhere.

If you want to solve racism in America, let's start by acknowledging that by and large, being a black person in the United States is a disadvantage compared to being white. Donald Trump and some other members of the Republican Party have helped fuel the fires of the current rising racial tensions in your country. It's the Southern strategy repackaged, except this time the big bad boogeyman is the illegal Latino.

Trump is and always will be an opportunist, I don't think he even has an ideology, he's just exploiting xenophobic fears that already existed.


That moment when trump says thousands of Arab Americans in New Jersey cheered on 9/11, but somehow that totally isn't racist. Not only is it racist, it's dishonest. Everyone ought to be mad that someone is slandering fellow Americans simply because they're of a certain ethnicity but unfortunately around a quarter of Americans probably believe there were thousands cheering in Patterson the day the towers came down, when it was more like five people
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The GOP has been doomed since 2016. By getting into bed with some of the worst elements of American society, he has essentially forever tarred the party of Lincoln as the party of racists, xenophobes, and those who are out of touch with reality. As much as I hate to admit it , he has cemented the GOP's reliance on a potent, albeit rapidly fading voter base(one which will inevitably fade into irrelevance over the coming decades). He's effectively ensured that no sane/self respecting person will want to associate with the Republican party in the near future.
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Ruffletrump wrote:The GOP has been doomed since 2016. By getting into bed with some of the worst elements of American society, he has essentially forever tarred the party of Lincoln as the party of racists, xenophobes, and those who are out of touch with reality. As much as I hate to admit it , he has cemented the GOP's reliance on a potent, albeit rapidly fading voter base(one which will inevitably fade into irrelevance over the coming decades). He's effectively ensured that no sane/self respecting person will want to associate with the Republican party in the near future.

The Democrats are doing the same with literal communists, also forever tarring the party of Obama as the party of communists/eco-terrorists/anarchists/SJWs. At this point, the Two-Party system is collapsing in on itself.
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Ruffletrump wrote:The GOP has been doomed since 2016. By getting into bed with some of the worst elements of American society, he has essentially forever tarred the party of Lincoln as the party of racists, xenophobes, and those who are out of touch with reality. As much as I hate to admit it , he has cemented the GOP's reliance on a potent, albeit rapidly fading voter base(one which will inevitably fade into irrelevance over the coming decades). He's effectively ensured that no sane/self respecting person will want to associate with the Republican party in the near future.


Completely untrue. If the GOP manages to close the border, they'll secure victory forever, because abortion and birth control will cause demographic collapse of Democrat-voting populations. Also, the people of Lincoln's party were more ethnocentrist than most Republicans today.

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Tornado Queendom wrote:
Ruffletrump wrote:The GOP has been doomed since 2016. By getting into bed with some of the worst elements of American society, he has essentially forever tarred the party of Lincoln as the party of racists, xenophobes, and those who are out of touch with reality. As much as I hate to admit it , he has cemented the GOP's reliance on a potent, albeit rapidly fading voter base(one which will inevitably fade into irrelevance over the coming decades). He's effectively ensured that no sane/self respecting person will want to associate with the Republican party in the near future.

The Democrats are doing the same with literal communists, also forever tarring the party of Obama as the party of communists/eco-terrorists/anarchists/SJWs. At this point, the Two-Party system is collapsing in on itself.


The Democrats aren't communist or left-wing in the traditional French sense. They're simply racial nationalists advocating for non-whites at the expense of whites.

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Diopolis wrote:Texas shows no signs of flipping anytime soon.


Then why are Republicans freaking out over the prospect?

They mostly aren't.
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Thyrgga wrote:
Ruffletrump wrote:The GOP has been doomed since 2016. By getting into bed with some of the worst elements of American society, he has essentially forever tarred the party of Lincoln as the party of racists, xenophobes, and those who are out of touch with reality. As much as I hate to admit it , he has cemented the GOP's reliance on a potent, albeit rapidly fading voter base(one which will inevitably fade into irrelevance over the coming decades). He's effectively ensured that no sane/self respecting person will want to associate with the Republican party in the near future.


Completely untrue. If the GOP manages to close the border, they'll secure victory forever, because abortion and birth control will cause demographic collapse of Democrat-voting populations. Also, the people of Lincoln's party were more ethnocentrist than most Republicans today.


That's a mighty big if, bud. Trump and his ilk have had two years to try and close the border, yet they have failed at every opportunity. What makes you so sure that they will succeed if they were to try again?
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Thyrgga wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:The Democrats are doing the same with literal communists, also forever tarring the party of Obama as the party of communists/eco-terrorists/anarchists/SJWs. At this point, the Two-Party system is collapsing in on itself.


The Democrats aren't communist or left-wing in the traditional French sense. They're simply racial nationalists advocating for non-whites at the expense of whites.

I agree, and they are Black/Muslim Supremacist. I can prove this by seeing that it's not just whites that they're throwing under the bus, but also Asians and even JEWS.
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Postby Bread Herbert » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:08 pm

The OP seems to forget that the GOP was the party of Abraham Lincoln and the abolitionists along with MLK and the civil right's activists of the era.

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Postby Thyrgga » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:11 pm

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Completely untrue. If the GOP manages to close the border, they'll secure victory forever, because abortion and birth control will cause demographic collapse of Democrat-voting populations. Also, the people of Lincoln's party were more ethnocentrist than most Republicans today.


That's a mighty big if, bud. Trump and his ilk have had two years to try and close the border, yet they have failed at every opportunity. What makes you so sure that they will succeed if they were to try again?


I cannot say with certainty that they'll succeed, but I don't see it as entirely outside the realm of possibility. It's not set in stone that the GOP is doomed.

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That's a mighty big if, bud. Trump and his ilk have had two years to try and close the border, yet they have failed at every opportunity. What makes you so sure that they will succeed if they were to try again?


I cannot say with certainty that they'll succeed, but I don't see it as entirely outside the realm of possibility. It's not set in stone that the GOP is doomed.


So in other words you have nothing to back up your claim beyond your own personal views then? Right?
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I cannot say with certainty that they'll succeed, but I don't see it as entirely outside the realm of possibility. It's not set in stone that the GOP is doomed.


So in other words you have nothing to back up your claim beyond your own personal views then? Right?


I assume that your views are backed up by what you saw when you last used your time machine, right?
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Bread Herbert wrote:The OP seems to forget that the GOP was the party of Abraham Lincoln and the abolitionists along with MLK and the civil right's activists of the era.

The GOP hasn’t been the part of Lincoln for a while.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:18 pm

I doubt the GOP is “doomed”, it’s just going to adapt to the newer political climate, in fact, the younger GOP politicians like Crenshaw are increasingly becoming classical liberals rather than full on conservatives, I think classical liberalism is where the party is headed
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Postby Ruffletrump » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:20 pm

Thyrgga wrote:
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So in other words you have nothing to back up your claim beyond your own personal views then? Right?


I assume that your views are backed up by what you saw when you last used your time machine, right?


Nice try in dodging the question. My views are based in part on demographic data that has been produced within the last decade/ observing the ongoing changes in the american political landscape(as well as some inferences based on past events in American political history.)

Tell me...What are your views based on apart from your own gut feelings/desires?

And to head you off...

https://www.axios.com/republican-party-demographics-threat-trump-racism-1524a8a1-c2f1-4183-896f-107420e2d50a.html
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2019/06/27/471487/states-of-change-3/
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/06/14/trump-owns-a-shrinking-republican-party/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2018/05/21/republican_party_is_headed_for_long_painful_decline_442698.html
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/the-republican-party-has-an-older-voters-problem.html
https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/11/data-shows-a-downward-demographic-spiral-for-republicans/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/the-changing-demographics-of-america-538284/

Simply put, the GOP in its current form cannot survive unless it adapts to the changing demographic landscape of America.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:25 pm

Ruffletrump wrote:
Thyrgga wrote:
I assume that your views are backed up by what you saw when you last used your time machine, right?


Nice try in dodging the question. My views are based in part on demographic data that has been produced within the last decade/ observing the ongoing changes in the american political landscape(as well as some inferences based on past events in American political history.)

Tell me...What are your views based on apart from your own gut feelings/desires?

I'm on the side of Thyrgga here

I'd say that the answers come from my own studies, which I've based on what the internet is like. As you can see, most of the internet doesn't agree with feminism.
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Tornado Queendom wrote:
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Nice try in dodging the question. My views are based in part on demographic data that has been produced within the last decade/ observing the ongoing changes in the american political landscape(as well as some inferences based on past events in American political history.)

Tell me...What are your views based on apart from your own gut feelings/desires?

I'm on the side of Thyrgga here

I'd say that the answers come from my own studies, which I've based on what the internet is like. As you can see, most of the internet doesn't agree with feminism.


Check my previous post. To sum up the articles and data I linked...The future demographics of the US do not indicate a favorable electoral future for the Republican party in its current form. At present the republican party is struggling to attract the support of minority groups, the young, women, and immigrants(all of these groups at current tend to side with the Democrats or left leaning candidates). Those are the groups that will end up dictating the GOP's future within the next few decades. Now do not get me wrong, Trump has a reliable base in the form of the evangelicals, those without a college education, and the alt right/older white americans, but that base will not last forever/will not necessarily continue to support the GOP once Trump leaves office.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:32 pm

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Tornado Queendom wrote:I'm on the side of Thyrgga here

I'd say that the answers come from my own studies, which I've based on what the internet is like. As you can see, most of the internet doesn't agree with feminism.


Check my previous post. To sum up the articles and data I linked...The future demographics of the US do not indicate a favorable electoral future for the Republican party in its current form. At present the republican party is struggling to attract the support of minority groups, the young, women, and immigrants. Those are the groups that will end up dictating the GOP's future within the next few decades.

Trust me, the Electoral college exists. Also, even if the republicans die out, some other party WILL take its place. You cannot stop "hateful" dicks.
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Postby Ruffletrump » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:36 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:
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Check my previous post. To sum up the articles and data I linked...The future demographics of the US do not indicate a favorable electoral future for the Republican party in its current form. At present the republican party is struggling to attract the support of minority groups, the young, women, and immigrants. Those are the groups that will end up dictating the GOP's future within the next few decades.

Trust me, the Electoral college exists. Also, even if the republicans die out, some other party WILL take its place. You cannot stop "hateful" dicks.


Irrelevant. The electoral college will not necessarily favor the republican party/their successors in every election. If you would bother to look at recent demographic data you would notice that in key states such as Texas, Florida, Georgia(etc) the demographic makeup of those states is shifting from majority white to either majority minority or one that is more favorable to democrats(which means they will capture the electoral votes of those states.)
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