Is the GOP Doomed?

[Diopolis]

Surely hope so. Calling Democrats unpatriotic absurd considering who the GOP caters most to are whites, white nationalists, bigots and racists. Even much so having Trump leading them is killing them as they continue to drive more away from the GOP.

Exactly they are freaking out about Texas. The state was already changing under Obama but Trump may have accelerated it. It Texas flips Trump and the Party are done. There is no path to 270 without it.

Texas shows no signs of flipping anytime soon.

[Ilefeb]

Could you please explain this and back it up with some credible information?
Or was this a bluff?

Lets see they refuse to fix the voting rights act, close down polling locations, gerrymander so they get the most seats without getting the most votes, engage in voter suppression. They know if more people vote they lose.

If you are talking about section 4 of the Civil Rights Act, I will say this, it was repealed by the Supreme Court in 2013. The Supreme Court's only black Justice, Clarence Thomas, rulled in favor of declaring section 4 unconstitutional. If you don't like it, there is nothing stopping you from taking it to the courts. It might be more effective than yelling Republicans are racist.
All attempts at gerrymandering were blocked by both conservative and liberal Justices at the Supreme Court.
As for the 3rd point, that is the typical arrogant "Democrats are superior" argument. In 2016 137.5 million people voted and Donald Trump won. In 2012 and 2008, 130 and 126 million people voted and Barack Obama won. If I go back even further for George Bush's election, the numbers are very similar to Obama's. In other words, the amount of voters do not determine which party gets the seat.

[Alvecia]

Lets see they refuse to fix the voting rights act, close down polling locations, gerrymander so they get the most seats without getting the most votes, engage in voter suppression. They know if more people vote they lose.

If you are talking about section 4 of the Civil Rights Act, I will say this, it was repealed by the Supreme Court in 2013. The Supreme Court's only black Justice, Clarence Thomas, rulled in favor of declaring section 4 unconstitutional. If you don't like it, there is nothing stopping you from taking it to the courts. It might be more effective than yelling Republicans are racist.
All attempts at gerrymandering were blocked by both conservative and liberal Justices at the Supreme Court.
As for the 3rd point, that is the typical arrogant "Democrats are superior" argument. In 2016 137.5 million people voted and Donald Trump won. In 2012 and 2008, 130 and 126 million people voted and Barack Obama won. If I go back even further for George Bush's election, the numbers are very similar to Obama's. In other words, the amount of voters do not determine which party gets the seat.

IIRC the most recent ruling on gerrymandering by the Supreme Court was that ruling on partisan gerrymandering is outside the remit of the federal court system.

[Purgatio]

That's just incorrect. Racism is the discrimination against a person based on their race. The rest is just meaningless waffle.

This does not disprove antyhing. How can minorities discriminate whites if they don`t have the necesarly institutional power?

By your messed up logic, minorities can't be racist against other minorities since, in your words, 'racism = power + prejudice', so a black person saying 'ching chong ling long' and pulling back his eyes to a Chinese person wouldn't be racist (according to your messed-up definition) and a Chinese-American saying the N-word back also wouldn't be racist.

Clearly, a pretty shitty definition. Racism is nothing more than treating someone as inferior to you or deserving of lesser treatment based on their race. Any racial group can be guilty of racism against any racial group, irregardless of who has 'power'.

[Servilis]

This happens all the time, different generations have different majority views.
It is literally nothing to be worried about.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

They've been predicting this for years with steadily increasing effective dates. Yeah no.

Who's "they"?

[San Lumen]

Exactly they are freaking out about Texas. The state was already changing under Obama but Trump may have accelerated it. It Texas flips Trump and the Party are done. There is no path to 270 without it.

Texas shows no signs of flipping anytime soon.

Then why are Republicans freaking out over the prospect? Why are Democrats investing heavily in a ground game and field organizers. One of the primary reasons Texas is a red state is because its a non voting state. If people in the urban areas and Latino voters came out the state would be purple at minimum.

[Arcanda]

The classic "demographics are the future" predictions that have been around since 2014.
Even if we take those predictions for truth, I don't think the GOP will disappear. They could start attracting more third or fourth or fifth-generation Catholic Hispanic votes and Asian votes, as well as the votes of the wealthy Hispanic demographics in some areas. Or, alternatively, the demographic shift will lead the GOP to become the white man's party, and depending on white & non-white turnout, there are chances that they could continue to be a relevant organization.

[Strahcoin]

Surely hope so. Calling Democrats unpatriotic absurd considering who the GOP caters most to are whites, white nationalists, bigots and racists. Even much so having Trump leading them is killing them as they continue to drive more away from the GOP.

Trump condemned the white nationalists. The mainstream media deliberately twist his words to fit their narrative.

[The Emerald Legion]

Surely hope so. Calling Democrats unpatriotic absurd considering who the GOP caters most to are whites, white nationalists, bigots and racists. Even much so having Trump leading them is killing them as they continue to drive more away from the GOP.

Democrats are by and large significantly less patriotic than Republicans.

This is by their own self assessment, and including the fact that Democrats are generally more permissive about what counts as Patriotism.

[San Lumen]

Surely hope so. Calling Democrats unpatriotic absurd considering who the GOP caters most to are whites, white nationalists, bigots and racists. Even much so having Trump leading them is killing them as they continue to drive more away from the GOP.

Trump condemned the white nationalists. The mainstream media deliberately twist his words to fit their narrative.

Yet he continues to use white nationalist and racist language towards immigrants and members of Congress so forgive me if I dont believe his condemnation to be sincere.

[The Emerald Legion]

Trump condemned the white nationalists. The mainstream media deliberately twist his words to fit their narrative.

Yet he continues to use white nationalist and racist language towards immigrants and members of Congress so forgive me if I dont believe his condemnation to be sincere.

Incorrect. He uses language you have been brainwashed into thinking is racist or white nationalist. It's just normal language.

[San Lumen]

Yet he continues to use white nationalist and racist language towards immigrants and members of Congress so forgive me if I dont believe his condemnation to be sincere.

Incorrect. He uses language you have been brainwashed into thinking is racist or white nationalist. It's just normal language.

Yeah calling Baltimore a ratinfused place no human would want to live in and calling Mexican's invaders and telling black congresswomen to go back to their countries isn;'t racist at all. In regards to the last one its perfectly acceptable to tell US citizens to go back to crime infested and broken countries from whence they came? Three of them were born in the US. That's not racist to you?

[The Emerald Legion]

Incorrect. He uses language you have been brainwashed into thinking is racist or white nationalist. It's just normal language.

Yeah calling Baltimore a ratinfused place no human would want to live in and calling Mexican's invaders and telling black congresswomen to go back to their countries isn;'t racist at all. In regards to the last one its perfectly acceptable to tell US citizens to go back to crime infested and broken countries from whence they came? Three of them were born in the US. That's not racist to you?

Because it is. Baltimore is a shithole. I've been there. Trust me. Nobody wants to live in Baltimore.

Illegal immigrants. Not Mexicans.

Considering he wasn't talking about three of them I don't believe so. He was talking about one in particular. The fact that the rest decided to feign outrage and claim it was about them is irrelevant. Not to mention it wasn't about her race so much as it was about the fact that she's an Anti American Bigot who despises our nation.

[San Lumen]

Yeah calling Baltimore a ratinfused place no human would want to live in and calling Mexican's invaders and telling black congresswomen to go back to their countries isn;'t racist at all. In regards to the last one its perfectly acceptable to tell US citizens to go back to crime infested and broken countries from whence they came? Three of them were born in the US. That's not racist to you?

Because it is. Baltimore is a shithole. I've been there. Trust me. Nobody wants to live in Baltimore.

Illegal immigrants. Not Mexicans.

Considering he wasn't talking about three of them I don't believe so. He was talking about one in particular. The fact that the rest decided to feign outrage and claim it was about them is irrelevant. Not to mention it wasn't about her race so much as it was about the fact that she's an Anti American Bigot who despises our nation.

I know people who live there. I lived there for four years as I went to college there. One of my classmates is on the city council. They are trying to make things better. Change doesn't happen overnight.

Trump specifically said Mexican and called other Latin American countries awful names and used white nationalist dogma

Trump was talking about them. Read his bigoted tweets.He told them to back to where they came from. I wish twitter would disable his account for promoting hatred.

Keep spinning it and denying it all you want. Your supported a racist.

[The Emerald Legion]

Because it is. Baltimore is a shithole. I've been there. Trust me. Nobody wants to live in Baltimore.

Illegal immigrants. Not Mexicans.

Considering he wasn't talking about three of them I don't believe so. He was talking about one in particular. The fact that the rest decided to feign outrage and claim it was about them is irrelevant. Not to mention it wasn't about her race so much as it was about the fact that she's an Anti American Bigot who despises our nation.

I know people who live there. I lived there for four years as I went to college there. One of my classmates is on the city council. They are trying to make things better. Change doesn't happen overnight.

Trump specifically said Mexican and called other Latin American countries awful names and used white nationalist dogma

Trump was talking about them. Read his bigoted tweets.He told them to back to where they came from. I wish twitter would disable his account for promoting hatred.

Keep spinning it and denying it all you want. Your supported a racist.

It's getting worse. Not better. It's been getting worse since 2014. Trying does not mean succeeding. I don't doubt Democrats are trying. I doubt they are succeeding

And? Calling people names isn't racist. And dog whistles Don't exist. It's a nonsensical term used to start witch hunts by the progressive left.

I did read them he mentioned none of them by name and the only defining characteristics mentioned preclude them from being the target.

[San Lumen]

I know people who live there. I lived there for four years as I went to college there. One of my classmates is on the city council. They are trying to make things better. Change doesn't happen overnight.

Trump specifically said Mexican and called other Latin American countries awful names and used white nationalist dogma

Trump was talking about them. Read his bigoted tweets.He told them to back to where they came from. I wish twitter would disable his account for promoting hatred.

Keep spinning it and denying it all you want. Your supported a racist.

It's getting worse. Not better. It's been getting worse since 2014. Trying does not mean succeeding. I don't doubt Democrats are trying. I doubt they are succeeding

And? Calling people names isn't racist. And dog whistles Don't exist. It's a nonsensical term used to start witch hunts by the progressive left.

I did read them he mentioned none of them by name and the only defining characteristics mentioned preclude them from being the target.

And what are Republicans doing to help Baltimore? Nothing. The Governor canceled the subway expansion which would have helped several neighborhoods

[The Emerald Legion]

It's getting worse. Not better. It's been getting worse since 2014. Trying does not mean succeeding. I don't doubt Democrats are trying. I doubt they are succeeding

And? Calling people names isn't racist. And dog whistles Don't exist. It's a nonsensical term used to start witch hunts by the progressive left.

I did read them he mentioned none of them by name and the only defining characteristics mentioned preclude them from being the target.

And what are Republicans doing to help Baltimore? Nothing. The Governor canceled the subway expansion which would have helped several neighborhoods

In order to fix roads that are falling apart in the rest of the state yes.

The governor's job isn't just to take care of Baltimore.

[Strahcoin]

It's getting worse. Not better. It's been getting worse since 2014. Trying does not mean succeeding. I don't doubt Democrats are trying. I doubt they are succeeding

And? Calling people names isn't racist. And dog whistles Don't exist. It's a nonsensical term used to start witch hunts by the progressive left.

I did read them he mentioned none of them by name and the only defining characteristics mentioned preclude them from being the target.

And what are Republicans doing to help Baltimore? Nothing. The Governor canceled the subway expansion which would have helped several neighborhoods

Let's see... Republicans are helping the whole country by:

• Creating jobs
• Lowering taxes
• Cracking down on illegal immigration
• Supporting the freedom of speech
• Reducing wasteful spending

Help the nation, help its cities.

The city needs clean, sturdy homes. A subway expansion can wait.

Also, isn't Baltimore led mostly by the Democrats?

[The Emerald Legion]

And what are Republicans doing to help Baltimore? Nothing. The Governor canceled the subway expansion which would have helped several neighborhoods

Let's see... Republicans are helping the whole country by:

• Creating jobs
• Lowering taxes
• Cracking down on illegal immigration
• Supporting the freedom of speech
• Reducing wasteful spending

Help the nation, help its cities.

The city needs clean, sturdy homes. A subway expansion can wait.

Also, isn't Baltimore led mostly by the Democrats?

It is, but our state Governer is a Republican. He's also a jackass who I want gone. But he cancelled the red line because the money was needed elsewhere. Namely in fixing our hellish road systems.

[Ilefeb]

And what are Republicans doing to help Baltimore? Nothing. The Governor canceled the subway expansion which would have helped several neighborhoods

Time for a separation of powers lesson

[Telconi]

Incorrect. He uses language you have been brainwashed into thinking is racist or white nationalist. It's just normal language.

Yeah calling Baltimore a ratinfused place no human would want to live in and calling Mexican's invaders and telling black congresswomen to go back to their countries isn;'t racist at all. In regards to the last one its perfectly acceptable to tell US citizens to go back to crime infested and broken countries from whence they came? Three of them were born in the US. That's not racist to you?

Daily reminder, you have told me to move to Uzbekistan on more than one occasion. So by this standard, you're a racist.

[Tobleste]

I would hate to live in whatever world you live in.

This is why your party did badly in the midterms and in several key states. It’s also why they got reamed in California

But they did great in the midterms in his world.

[Tobleste]

Nope. The south turned on Democrats immediately after the civil rights act. From that point on, Republicans dominated the south while democrats dominated among black voters. The idea that today's Republicans are exempt from accusations of racism because they fought slavery 150 years ago is silly. Both parties surely opposed women's suffrage at one point, are they sexist forever?

Trump does show contempt for immigrants.

Republicans show little concern for American people unless they're wealthy or can be used as a justification for cracking down on immigrants.

Democrats don't all share giving citizenship to illegal immigrants.

Democrats objected to the bill because it didn't do enough. Republicans clearly couldn't gaf about the suffering of people at the border given trumps comments on it.

Omar and Kapernick have been non violent but Republicans have constantly demonised them and called for their deportation or firing for their free speech. Why? Because they're black people disagreei with Republicans.

Your party is racist. It doesn't mean you are. But if the Republican party wasn't racist, someone should tell them because they haven't noticed.

1. Both parties generally supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
2. Trump shows contempt for illegal immigrants. Watch a Trump rally, and you'll likely hear him talking about how we as a nation want immigrants, but they have to come in legally.
3. Then why do they oppose abortion, oppose economic regulations, oppose high taxes, support legal immigration, oppose minimum wage, etc.? And why did Trump pledge to refuse money from corporate lobbyists during his election campaign?
4. I know; Obama and Clinton strongly opposed illegal immigration and supported a wall before Trump decided to do likewise. Now, the moderate Democrat politicians are declining - replaced by extremists such as AOC and Bernie Sanders.
5. The Democrats couldn't settle for some good, so they decided to settle for no good, instead. Seems logical.
6. No, the Republicans (specifically Trump) called for them to leave the U.S. because they consistently demonstrate that they don't like it here.
7. The Republicans weren't the ones to demonize the "Christian white male" - or any race/sex/religion (excluding extremist violent ones) in general.

1. It was overwhelmingly opposed by the south which overwhelmingly became GOP. Look into to it and ask historians.
2. He generally proposes restrictions on all immigrants (and refugees), not just illegal. He also demanded a few non white politicians go back to the country's they're "from" because only white can be American apprently. The "oh, he only hates illegals" line is a lie that no one could actually believe unless they weren't paying attention. You're either lying or not paying attention.
3. They oppose abortion for religious reasons and everything else is down to a preference for rich people over the rest.
4. Obama and Clintin are moderates now? Funny. I remember them being America hating socialists. Like Sanders and AOC are. Give it 10 years and when the GOP are running Gamergate morons from 8 chan they'll argue AOC and Sanders are the moderates. Also, I'm pretty sure they supported fencing. Not Trumps Great Wall of Sexual Insecurity.
5. So by your logic, if Republicans offer Democrats a 1% improvement for immigrants and Democrats negotiate for more, Democrats hate immigrants and reoublicans don't? Reasonable.
6. No they haven't. Trump bitched about America for years. Was he told to go away by hundreds at Clinton rallies? No. Because Clinton supporters don't view white Americans as fake non-citizens.
7. I don't even see the point of that one.

[Tobleste]

Nope. The south turned on Democrats immediately after the civil rights act. From that point on, Republicans dominated the south while democrats dominated among black voters. The idea that today's Republicans are exempt from accusations of racism because they fought slavery 150 years ago is silly. Both parties surely opposed women's suffrage at one point, are they sexist forever?

Again, the Civil Rights Act had bipartisan support, both parties agreed to end segregation. So saying that the Republican Party is racist because they were the popular party in the south after the Civil Rights Act is also a silly argument.

Trump does show contempt for immigrants.

Republicans show little concern for American people unless they're wealthy or can be used as a justification for cracking down on immigrants.

Democrats don't all share giving citizenship to illegal immigrants.

We are not talking about Trump, we are talking about the Republican Party, if Republicans showed little concerns for the American people, no one would be Republican (because knock on wood, we are American), and it seems that more Democrats are taking more of a radical stance on immigration.

Democrats objected to the bill because it didn't do enough. Republicans clearly couldn't gaf about the suffering of people at the border given trumps comments on it.

Once again, we are talking about the Republican Party, not Donald Trump. If the Democrats really thought the bill didn't do enough, they should've ammended it. They did not, they just voted it down and and continued to shout and complain about it and not do anything about immigration crisis.

Omar and Kapernick have been non violent but Republicans have constantly demonised them and called for their deportation or firing for their free speech. Why? Because they're black people disagreei with Republicans.

No, it's because Kapernick knelt for the National Anthem and called all law enforcement officers pigs and Omar called the terrorist attacks on 9/11 just simply "someone who did something for our rights." Both are very disrespectful to our troops and first responders. Sure, it's free speech, but it's also free speech to call them out for those actions.

Your party is racist. It doesn't mean you are. But if the Republican party wasn't racist, someone should tell them because they haven't noticed.

The Republican Party is not racist. You've yet to give me one Republican policy that is racist. There are racist Democrats. Do think the Democratic Party is racist because of it?

I went to reply to this after the other post I responded to. When I clicked on this tab and saw your last line, I've decided not to really bother or even read the full thing because I'm talking to a wall. I've explained why people view Republicans as racist and you're either not listening or don't care. I've explained why it's more than a few bad apples (it's the actual Republicans president ffs) and you respond the way most Republicans do; with a few talking points that wouldn't convince anyone with more than a 12 year olds education who didn't already agree with you because you don't seem to care about the truth. This is how you wound up with someone like trump (how can you be surprised that people think Republicans are idiotic bigots when they cheer the idiotic bigotry of an idiotic bigot?), why millions of Americans hate your party and why Republican presidents are frequently treated with either bemusement or contempt outside of America. Your party either doesn't think or doesn't care.

Next time someone calls Republicans bigots, don't ask them to explain why because you obviously don't really care why they think that or if it's true.