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Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

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Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan?

Yes
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31%
No
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26%
Unsure
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Total votes : 121

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:13 pm

Kowani wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Yes, and everyone knows about both of those.

That's why I'm posting something else that just goes to show how evil and, frankly, savage they were.

I feel obligated to point out that I don’t support the Nazis.

You just want to put religious people in camps and die, your so much better.

Also, you're extremely hypocritical. You don't care about other people's rights but the moment we talk about violating yours, you are upset.
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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:17 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
If I may, would I be considered left, right, center, or something else entirely? I mean, a former leftist acquaintance of mine declared me to be centrist, and thus right-wing, and thus scum. (Hence why I don’t associate with them any more; “sanctimonious” is perhaps an understatement when describing them.)

I have no idea. You're certainly not social justice lefty, although you could possibly be a technophile leftist. Then again, you're a lot more collectivist than they usually are.
You're probably roughly center, if only because you don't fit anywhere else.


I mean, if it helps here's my most recent PolitiScales results:

https://www.politiscales.net/en_US/resu ... 00&mona=67

Although I admit that the PolitiScales test is, often, a load of dingo kidneys.
< THE HIGH SWAGLORD | 8VALUES | POLITISCALES >
My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:19 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Kowani wrote:I feel obligated to point out that I don’t support the Nazis.

You just want to put religious people in camps and die, your so much better.

Also, you're extremely hypocritical. You don't care about other people's rights but the moment we talk about violating yours, you are upset.

Hold up. When the heck did I support putting religious people in death camps?

And-it would be hypocritical if I accused you of getting emotional.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:20 pm

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:How will that be so?

Technology, automation, and proper fuckin’ agriculture.

Nova Cyberia wrote:Would it kill you to actually advocate for things that aren't blatantly malicious?

Jesus H Christ.

I could try, but I doubt I would like the outcome.

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:You sound like a tankie.

I knew I forgot something!

I've got a better idea. Why don't we just curtail freedom of speech for people who want to curtail freedom of speech? Communists, Nazis, edgy nihilists and religious extremists should all be shut down.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:20 pm

Kowani wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:You just want to put religious people in camps and die, your so much better.

Also, you're extremely hypocritical. You don't care about other people's rights but the moment we talk about violating yours, you are upset.

Hold up. When the heck did I support putting religious people in death camps?

And-it would be hypocritical if I accused you of getting emotional.

You said you would starve people for spreading their religion and curtail their freedom of speech by killing them.
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:20 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I have no idea. You're certainly not social justice lefty, although you could possibly be a technophile leftist. Then again, you're a lot more collectivist than they usually are.
You're probably roughly center, if only because you don't fit anywhere else.


I mean, if it helps here's my most recent PolitiScales results:

https://www.politiscales.net/en_US/resu ... 00&mona=67

Although I admit that the PolitiScales test is, often, a load of dingo kidneys.

The term "socially conservative leftist" might fit you to an extent, based off those test results.

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:21 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Technology, automation, and proper fuckin’ agriculture.


I could try, but I doubt I would like the outcome.


I knew I forgot something!

I've got a better idea. Why don't we just curtail freedom of speech for people who want to curtail freedom of speech? Communists, Nazis, edgy nihilists and religious extremists should all be shut down.

This ^^

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:21 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Technology, automation, and proper fuckin’ agriculture.


I could try, but I doubt I would like the outcome.


I knew I forgot something!

I've got a better idea. Why don't we just curtail freedom of speech for people who want to curtail freedom of speech? Communists, Nazis, edgy nihilists and religious extremists should all be shut down.

I understand your reasoning.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:23 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:I've got a better idea. Why don't we just curtail freedom of speech for people who want to curtail freedom of speech? Communists, Nazis, edgy nihilists and religious extremists should all be shut down.

I understand your reasoning.

I mean, fam, I get it. I had my edgy atheist days too and I want to punch past me for being such an irritating little shit. But honestly, it would be healthy for you to move past it.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:25 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kowani wrote:I understand your reasoning.

I mean, fam, I get it. I had my edgy atheist days too and I want to punch past me for being such an irritating little shit. But honestly, it would be healthy for you to move past it.

Are you still an atheist? I forgot what your religious beliefs are.

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:26 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:I mean, fam, I get it. I had my edgy atheist days too and I want to punch past me for being such an irritating little shit. But honestly, it would be healthy for you to move past it.

Are you still an atheist? I forgot what your religious beliefs are.

I've graduated from atheism to agnosticism.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:27 pm

When will nihilists stop trumpeting their own nihilism as a meaningful and distinct philosophy? It's like a committed optimist claiming optimism as a political and philosophical identity.

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:28 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kowani wrote:I understand your reasoning.

I mean, fam, I get it. I had my edgy atheist days too and I want to punch past me for being such an irritating little shit. But honestly, it would be healthy for you to move past it.


He's young and a bit overeager.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:28 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:When will nihilists stop trumpeting their own nihilism as a meaningful and distinct philosophy? It's like a committed optimist claiming optimism as a political and philosophical identity.

Nihilism has become the new veganism with how people shove it in your fucking face without you ever asking them.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:32 pm

Joachim Murat was the true King of Naples.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:33 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:When will nihilists stop trumpeting their own nihilism as a meaningful and distinct philosophy? It's like a committed optimist claiming optimism as a political and philosophical identity.

Oh, this is peak hypocrisy right here.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Joachim Murat was the true King of Naples.

Doesn't really matter since Naples got yeeted on by Peidmont-Sardinia during the Italian Wars of Unification.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:39 pm

Kowani wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:When will nihilists stop trumpeting their own nihilism as a meaningful and distinct philosophy? It's like a committed optimist claiming optimism as a political and philosophical identity.

Oh, this is peak hypocrisy right here.

Nihilism isn't useful as a philosophy because it explicitly has no answers.
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:39 pm

Kowani wrote:Oh, this is peak hypocrisy right here.

No it's not. Nihilism is quite literally a rejection of all moral principles. Trying to dress up a big fat "I DON'T WANNA/NO U" as anything more than negation makes for a weak political and philosophical identity.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:39 pm

Should I attempt to become more edgy?

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Jean-Paul Sartre
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:40 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Should I attempt to become more edgy?

Do or do not. There is no try.
"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man."
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Do or do not. There is no try.

Your flag is absolutely cursed.

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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:43 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Do or do not. There is no try.

Your flag is absolutely cursed.

It’s an upgrade from the one I had previously. Still disappointed nobody noticed that I had Loss as my flag.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:45 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Your flag is absolutely cursed.

It’s an upgrade from the one I had previously. Still disappointed nobody noticed that I had Loss as my flag.

I did, I just didn't comment. It's a dead meme though.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:46 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:It’s an upgrade from the one I had previously. Still disappointed nobody noticed that I had Loss as my flag.

I did, I just didn't comment. It's a dead meme though.

Memes are never dead, as long as they live on in our hearts.
"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man."
-Heraclitus of Ephesus

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