Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

[Nakena]

As theoretical solution? Yes. Practically and feasibly? No:

I do not believe that be feasible, since such measures would likely presume the existence of a strict bereucratic administrative regime in place beforehand. Which in turn has a lot more implications in itself. As things currently stand they are beyond the point of being controlable or steerable with any institutions, techniques and structures currently in existence.

Practically and realistically to focus on technological advancement and leave those areas on their own, since I consider them to be lost causes. Which being said, I recall having read that birthrates are very slowly in the decline.

Also reminds me at this

One last culling of the herd in one way or another is inevitable unless we have more resources.

Climate change caused famines and heatwaves might happen within the 21th century. It would be a horrific catastrophe on a global scale. On the one side, I feel some moral imperative to think about and develop solutions to prevent this from happening. (Hydroponics, Aquafarming, resettlements etc. come all to mind)

Unfortunatly we have to realistically expect that those events will happen and occur in a most chaotic and unpredictable fashion, with the greatest possible amount of collateral damage, due the lack of any insitutions or mechanisms that could manage them on an global scale.

On the other side I acknowledge that it might be not possible to rescue anyone and that thus the continued existence of advanced civilization should take priority. Because this is a necessarity for the long term survivial of mankind.

[Neko-koku]

One last culling of the herd in one way or another is inevitable unless we have more resources.

Climate change caused famines and heatwaves might happen within the 21th century. It would be a horrific catastrophe on a global scale. On the one side, I feel some moral imperative to think about and develop solutions to prevent this from happening. (Hydroponics, Aquafarming, resettlements etc. come all to mind)

Unfortunatly we have to realistically expect that those events will happen and occur in a most chaotic and unpredictable fashion, with the greatest possible amount of collateral damage, due the lack of any insitutions or mechanisms that could manage them on an global scale.

On the other side I acknowledge that it might be not possible to rescue anyone and that thus the continued existence of advanced civilization should take priority. Because this is a necessarity for the long term survivial of mankind.

Yep. We have to start carbon sequestration and develop fusion power now. Then maybe we can indeed afford to save most.

[Totally Not OEP]

If the GOP was ever serious about Homosexuals, all it had do to was limit the Court's authority on the matter. This could've been done in Congress back in 2015 and Obama wouldn't have been able to do shit about it.

[Nakena]

Climate change caused famines and heatwaves might happen within the 21th century. It would be a horrific catastrophe on a global scale. On the one side, I feel some moral imperative to think about and develop solutions to prevent this from happening. (Hydroponics, Aquafarming, resettlements etc. come all to mind)

Unfortunatly we have to realistically expect that those events will happen and occur in a most chaotic and unpredictable fashion, with the greatest possible amount of collateral damage, due the lack of any insitutions or mechanisms that could manage them on an global scale.

On the other side I acknowledge that it might be not possible to rescue anyone and that thus the continued existence of advanced civilization should take priority. Because this is a necessarity for the long term survivial of mankind.

Yep. We have to start carbon sequestration and develop fusion power now. Then maybe we can indeed afford to save most.

CO2 sequestration, Fusion Power, Hydrogen Cars and other technologies are imperative. Because they all increase efficiency, reduce environmental impact and resource consumption. Given that the climate change has not yet peaked out, we're running real short on time.

[Inkopolitia]

Venezuela should be put under a military protectorate tbh

Venezuela should be turned into a pile of fucking rubble, no mercy for communists.

I was born in Venezuela and a part of my family still lives there. Not cool

[Loben The 2nd]

Can't tell if you misread or are just intentionally being obtuse.

The "white left" refers to liberals that complain about catcalling, 900 genders and other related things.

Catcalling is immoral and degenerate, though. So there is nothing inherently leftist about being opposed to it.

yes but making up an entire movement based around it is a grand way of wasting everyones time.

[Thermodolia]

Pride parades are often an absolute gift to opponents of LGBT acceptance, the other side writing your propaganda for you.

Immensely short-sighted for people on that side to want to be rid of them, very amusing.

There’s very few tame pride parades. And those seem to be mostly in the US south. The one near me is very tame. You can’t show anything below the belt. So speedos are the skimpiest thing a guy can wear

[Neko-koku]

Yep. We have to start carbon sequestration and develop fusion power now. Then maybe we can indeed afford to save most.

CO2 sequestration, Fusion Power, Hydrogen Cars and other technologies are imperative. Because they all increase efficiency, reduce environmental impact and resource consumption. Given that the climate change has not yet peaked out, we're running real short on time.

Yep. These really have to be done ASAP.

[New haven america]

Climate change caused famines and heatwaves might happen within the 21th century. It would be a horrific catastrophe on a global scale. On the one side, I feel some moral imperative to think about and develop solutions to prevent this from happening. (Hydroponics, Aquafarming, resettlements etc. come all to mind)

Unfortunatly we have to realistically expect that those events will happen and occur in a most chaotic and unpredictable fashion, with the greatest possible amount of collateral damage, due the lack of any insitutions or mechanisms that could manage them on an global scale.

On the other side I acknowledge that it might be not possible to rescue anyone and that thus the continued existence of advanced civilization should take priority. Because this is a necessarity for the long term survivial of mankind.

Yep. We have to start carbon sequestration and develop fusion power now. Then maybe we can indeed afford to save most.

Or maybe we could also go along with that strategic tree planting thing scientists already figured out about while also becoming less reliant on fossil fuels (By way of nuclear and renewable power) and sending out carbon and methane absorbers while we develop said fusion energy that'll take at least 50-200 years to come into fruition.

Oh wait, that involves working with nature and isn't happening Right Fucking Now, so it's a useless plan. My bad.

[Solarist VZ]

I was born in Venezuela and a part of my family still lives there. Not cool

Venezuela should be turned into a pile of fucking rubble, no mercy for communists.

While the Reds are the major parasites and lead the shots. They aren't the source of the problem, it is the people that is the problem. The people that is shit to be exact. Of course most of the common folk is decent and is willing to work, but these are overwhelmed by dysfunctional individuals who are borderline subhuman (this isn't some edgy exageration), it is known here as "Viveza criolla" and it's a cancerous de-facto philosophy (also maybe is one of the reasons why we hadn't triggered The Happening, as there's quite an amount of "people" who have become rich as fuck because of the Reds while not exactly knowning their nomenclature). I think bombs aren't needed, but Death Squads are sure are.

[Antityranicals]

As theoretical solution? Yes. Practically and feasibly? No:

I do not believe that be feasible, since such measures would likely presume the existence of a strict bereucratic administrative regime in place beforehand. Which in turn has a lot more implications in itself. As things currently stand they are beyond the point of being controlable or steerable with any institutions, techniques and structures currently in existence.

Practically and realistically to focus on technological advancement and leave those areas on their own, since I consider them to be lost causes. Which being said, I recall having read that birthrates are very slowly in the decline.

Also reminds me at this

One last culling of the herd in one way or another is inevitable unless we have more resources.

Or we can stop intentionally inhibiting our economy through regulations and property rights violations, so that our GDP can grow faster than our population.

[Antityranicals]

Yep. We have to start carbon sequestration and develop fusion power now. Then maybe we can indeed afford to save most.

CO2 sequestration, Fusion Power, Hydrogen Cars and other technologies are imperative. Because they all increase efficiency, reduce environmental impact and resource consumption. Given that the climate change has not yet peaked out, we're running real short on time.

When the market demands it, it will happen. Until then, the only demand is from a vocal minority who actually believe that we are killing the planet. If it is so bad as you say, people's lives will actually be affected by climate change, and then the market will adapt. Otherwise, fossil fuels are just fine.

[Antityranicals]

I was born in Venezuela and a part of my family still lives there. Not cool

Venezuela should be turned into a pile of fucking rubble, no mercy for communists.

While the Reds are the major parasites and lead the shots. They aren't the source of the problem, it is the people that is the problem. The people that is shit to be exact. Of course most of the common folk is decent and is willing to work, but these are overwhelmed by dysfunctional individuals who are borderline subhuman (this isn't some edgy exageration), it is known here as "Viveza criolla" and it's a cancerous de-facto philosophy (also maybe is one of the reasons why we hadn't triggered The Happening, as there's quite an amount of "people" who have become rich as fuck because of the Reds while not exactly knowning their nomenclature). I think bombs aren't needed, but Death Squads are sure are.

You're missing one major detail: people adapt. In a communist society, uselessness is incentivized, thus people adapt to be useless. If this society is replaced with a pure capitalist society, the people will once again adapt to be useful. Death squads aren't necessary, just a coup.

[Neko-koku]

CO2 sequestration, Fusion Power, Hydrogen Cars and other technologies are imperative. Because they all increase efficiency, reduce environmental impact and resource consumption. Given that the climate change has not yet peaked out, we're running real short on time.

When the market demands it, it will happen. Until then, the only demand is from a vocal minority who actually believe that we are killing the planet. If it is so bad as you say, people's lives will actually be affected by climate change, and then the market will adapt. Otherwise, fossil fuels are just fine.

Do you agree that we need family planning in Sub-Saharan Africa?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

If the GOP was ever serious about Homosexuals, all it had do to was limit the Court's authority on the matter. This could've been done in Congress back in 2015 and Obama wouldn't have been able to do shit about it.

Sorry, but even in 2015 you wouldn't have been able to get 2/3's of both houses and 3/4's of the states to repeal the 14th amendment and amend Article Three. If you want the gay and LGBT community in general to be oppressed so much then Russia or Belarus is much more your flavor than America, you can get your authoritarian sensibilities more catered to there quicker and easier than by just "waiting for the freedom to go away" here.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Pride parades are often an absolute gift to opponents of LGBT acceptance, the other side writing your propaganda for you.

Immensely short-sighted for people on that side to want to be rid of them, very amusing.

There’s very few tame pride parades. And those seem to be mostly in the US south. The one near me is very tame. You can’t show anything below the belt. So speedos are the skimpiest thing a guy can wear

I highly doubt there's a pride parade anywhere in the US that goes full nude both top and bottom. So if speedos are tame then practically every pride parade is tame.

[New haven america]

When the market demands it, it will happen. Until then, the only demand is from a vocal minority who actually believe that we are killing the planet. If it is so bad as you say, people's lives will actually be affected by climate change, and then the market will adapt. Otherwise, fossil fuels are just fine.

Do you agree that we need family planning in Sub-Saharan Africa?

Education and access to contraceptives? Yes.

However, that's not really gonna lower the birthrates over there, and that's because their IMR's and CMR's don't allow for that. The reason most people in Sub-Saharan Africa have so many kids is because most die before they hit the age of 18. (Take a family with 7 kids, yeah, usually over there only 1 or 2 will survive to adulthood) If you wanna lower birthrates over there then you need to focus of poverty, food, and healthcare first.

[Antityranicals]

When the market demands it, it will happen. Until then, the only demand is from a vocal minority who actually believe that we are killing the planet. If it is so bad as you say, people's lives will actually be affected by climate change, and then the market will adapt. Otherwise, fossil fuels are just fine.

Do you agree that we need family planning in Sub-Saharan Africa?

No. The only reason why Sub-Saharan Africa isn't experiencing double digit percent GDP growth is that they have terrible property rights, and corrupt bureaucracies which have far too much power.

[Antityranicals]

If the GOP was ever serious about Homosexuals, all it had do to was limit the Court's authority on the matter. This could've been done in Congress back in 2015 and Obama wouldn't have been able to do shit about it.

Sorry, but even in 2015 you wouldn't have been able to get 2/3's of both houses and 3/4's of the states to repeal the 14th amendment and amend Article Three. If you want the gay and LGBT community in general to be oppressed so much then Russia or Belarus is much more your flavor than America, you can get your authoritarian sensibilities more catered to there quicker and easier than by just "waiting for the freedom to go away" here.

The solution is to take government out of marriage. If the government didn't have the power to marry two people, there would be no conflict. Gays can get married in a religious or private institution which is willing to do it, and nobody has to contradict their moral values.

[Neko-koku]

Do you agree that we need family planning in Sub-Saharan Africa?

Education and access to contraceptives? Yes.

However, that's not really gonna lower the birthrates over there, and that's because their IMR's and CMR's don't allow for that. The reason most people in Sub-Saharan Africa have so many kids is because most die before they hit the age of 18. (Take a family with 7 kids, yeah, usually over there only 1 or 2 will survive to adulthood) If you wanna lower birthrates over there then you need to focus of poverty, food, and healthcare first.

Most die before they reach 18? That's not true at all. Otherwise their life expectancy would have been in the 30s, seriously.

We can actually deal with the poverty, food and healthcare as well. Just abolish all Sub-Saharan African govs and institute international rule. Former state property of SSA govs will become property of the new international entity. Taxation will be necessary to deal with all these problems and pay both international and local employees.

[Neko-koku]

Sorry, but even in 2015 you wouldn't have been able to get 2/3's of both houses and 3/4's of the states to repeal the 14th amendment and amend Article Three. If you want the gay and LGBT community in general to be oppressed so much then Russia or Belarus is much more your flavor than America, you can get your authoritarian sensibilities more catered to there quicker and easier than by just "waiting for the freedom to go away" here.

The solution is to take government out of marriage. If the government didn't have the power to marry two people, there would be no conflict. Gays can get married in a religious or private institution which is willing to do it, and nobody has to contradict their moral values.

That's a good idea. Gay marriage can happen everywhere in the LGBT community. Religious groups aren't forced to recognize gay marriage against their beliefs. That's a win-win situation.

[Neko-koku]

Do you agree that we need family planning in Sub-Saharan Africa?

No. The only reason why Sub-Saharan Africa isn't experiencing double digit percent GDP growth is that they have terrible property rights, and corrupt bureaucracies which have far too much power.

I disagree. The main problem with SSA is their genetics. What you described needs to be fix, so does genetics there. Before genetics can be fixed deworming and nutrition are necessary first steps.

[New haven america]

Education and access to contraceptives? Yes.

However, that's not really gonna lower the birthrates over there, and that's because their IMR's and CMR's don't allow for that. The reason most people in Sub-Saharan Africa have so many kids is because most die before they hit the age of 18. (Take a family with 7 kids, yeah, usually over there only 1 or 2 will survive to adulthood) If you wanna lower birthrates over there then you need to focus of poverty, food, and healthcare first.

1. Most die before they reach 18? That's not true at all. 2. Otherwise their life expectancy would have been in the 30s, seriously.

We can actually deal with the poverty, food and healthcare as well. Just abolish all Sub-Saharan African govs and institute international rule. Former state property of SSA govs will become property of the new international entity. Taxation will be necessary to deal with all these problems and pay both international and local employees.

1. Yes, Sub-Saharan Africa has high IMR and CMR rates. As I've already said...
2. Most Sub-Saharan African countries only have a life expectancy of 45 or less, so you're actually not too far off the mark

[Antityranicals]

The solution is to take government out of marriage. If the government didn't have the power to marry two people, there would be no conflict. Gays can get married in a religious or private institution which is willing to do it, and nobody has to contradict their moral values.

That's a good idea. Gay marriage can happen everywhere in the LGBT community. Religious groups aren't forced to recognize gay marriage against their beliefs. That's a win-win situation.

The sad thing is, I'm not sure that many LGBT rights activists will like that solution. Nowadays, at least in America, where they are largely free, they're less concerned with expanding their rights, and more concerned with destroying the lives of any who disagree with them.

[Neko-koku]

1. Most die before they reach 18? That's not true at all. 2. Otherwise their life expectancy would have been in the 30s, seriously.

We can actually deal with the poverty, food and healthcare as well. Just abolish all Sub-Saharan African govs and institute international rule. Former state property of SSA govs will become property of the new international entity. Taxation will be necessary to deal with all these problems and pay both international and local employees.

1. Yes, Sub-Saharan Africa has high IMR and CMR rates. As I've already said...
2. Most Sub-Saharan African countries only have a life expectancy of 45 or less, so you're actually not too far off

That's another reason why SSA needs to be under international rule right now.