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Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan?

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No
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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:31 pm

Other ideal Versailles:

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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:31 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Under my proposed system, for example, I’d reckon that I’d be 60 to 70 percent Fascist (defined in distance from the Moderate and/or Conservative center of the Ideological Triangle).

Yeah, I agree that the political "spectrum" is more like a triangle, that's no secret. I only think that the "Liberte Egalite Fraternite" comparison isn't accurate.
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Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:32 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Other ideal Versailles:


You may not like it, but this is what peak German partition looks like.

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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:32 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Under my proposed system, for example, I’d reckon that I’d be 60 to 70 percent Fascist (defined in distance from the Moderate and/or Conservative center of the Ideological Triangle).

Yeah, I agree that the political "spectrum" is more like a triangle, that's no secret. I only think that the "Liberte Egalite Fraternite" comparison isn't accurate.


Hmm... ah well, it was a decent go, I’d say.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:32 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Other ideal Versailles:



The dude literally advocated for the complete destruction of the German people and was Jewish.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:33 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:

How’d the EU and the UN time travel in?
American History and Historiography; Political and Labour History, Urbanism, Political Parties, Congressional Procedure, Elections.

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Historian, of sorts.

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Postby Crysuko » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:33 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:


Containing such wonders as Lithuanian Latvia, Latvian Lithuania, Scottish English Ireland, and greater Corsica
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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:34 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Other ideal Versailles:



The dude literally advocated for the complete destruction of the German people and was Jewish.

What a visionary!
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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Hmm... ah well, it was a decent go, I’d say.

Yeah, it sounds pretty catchy and ground-breaking, I'll admit. Reminds me of this.
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

The Wanderer

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:38 pm

I can't find it, but there was a map I saw awhile back that posited a world where the pan-Germanic movements of the 19th century was actually led by the Anglo-Saxon countries, and the result was basically a US/British Empire superstate that first absorbed the Dutch Empire, and then Scandinavia, and then finally Germany itself.

And given that the majority of Germanic people are not Germans, it makes sense. Why should they have the claim on being the center of Germanium? Historically, it makes much more sense for the Anglo-Saxons or Dutch to be seen as the center of the Germanic world.
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:41 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Hmm... ah well, it was a decent go, I’d say.

Yeah, it sounds pretty catchy and ground-breaking, I'll admit. Reminds me of this.


What’s that from, if I may ask?
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My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Postby Crysuko » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:41 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I can't find it, but there was a map I saw awhile back that posited a world where the pan-Germanic movements of the 19th century was actually led by the Anglo-Saxon countries, and the result was basically a US/British Empire superstate that first absorbed the Dutch Empire, and then Scandinavia, and then finally Germany itself.

And given that the majority of Germanic people are not Germans, it makes sense. Why should they have the claim on being the center of Germanium? Historically, it makes much more sense for the Anglo-Saxons or Dutch to be seen as the center of the Germanic world.

The modern day English feel no connection to the Anglo Saxons, save for outliers who are seen as nutcases by the rest.
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Crysuko » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:42 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Yeah, it sounds pretty catchy and ground-breaking, I'll admit. Reminds me of this.


What’s that from, if I may ask?


Hearts of iron 3. WW2 themed spreadsheet simulator.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Official thread euthanologist
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:42 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:What a visionary!

Germany Must Perish (and Theodore Kaufmann in general) is pretty much peak schizophrenia. He wanted Americans to be sterilized so that their children wouldn't die in European wars, and also thought that he could sterilize the entire population of Germany in one month.
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

The Wanderer

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:43 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I can't find it, but there was a map I saw awhile back that posited a world where the pan-Germanic movements of the 19th century was actually led by the Anglo-Saxon countries, and the result was basically a US/British Empire superstate that first absorbed the Dutch Empire, and then Scandinavia, and then finally Germany itself.

And given that the majority of Germanic people are not Germans, it makes sense. Why should they have the claim on being the center of Germanium? Historically, it makes much more sense for the Anglo-Saxons or Dutch to be seen as the center of the Germanic world.


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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:44 pm

Crysuko wrote:Hearts of iron 3. WW2 themed spreadsheet simulator.

Give it some credit. At least it's better than Hearts of Iron IV.
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

The Wanderer

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Postby Turbofolkia » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:44 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:It's crazy how some things that were so taken for granted a generation ago are now taboo.

Societal engineering that's what. You only need a generation of school children to turn things on their head.

I don't know if social engineering or the long march through the institutions had much to do with White Australia becoming a taboo. I think it was more the fact that it was no longer a politically or economically viable policy after 1945.

Naturally I do not long for the days of White Australia but many people don't realise that a key reason why Australia has led the world in wages, working conditions and benefits is due to the fact that politicians and unions did not want to import an underclass of cheap labour from China and the Pacific Islands.
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:44 pm

Crysuko wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
What’s that from, if I may ask?


Hearts of iron 3. WW2 themed spreadsheet simulator.


Ah, I should have expected a Paradox game. I’m personally rather fond of Stellaris myself.
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My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:45 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:What a visionary!

Germany Must Perish (and Theodore Kaufmann in general) is pretty much peak schizophrenia. He wanted Americans to be sterilized so that their children wouldn't die in European wars, and also thought that he could sterilize the entire population of Germany in one month.


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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:What a visionary!

Germany Must Perish (and Theodore Kaufmann in general) is pretty much peak schizophrenia. He wanted Americans to be sterilized so that their children wouldn't die in European wars, and also thought that he could sterilize the entire population of Germany in one month.

Peak schizophrenia is that guy who sent letters to random people about moon brains.
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:47 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Crysuko wrote:
Hearts of iron 3. WW2 themed spreadsheet simulator.


Ah, I should have expected a Paradox game. I’m personally rather fond of Stellaris myself.

Which is good because you can set up basically any government type you want, add a splash of roleplaying, and everyone's happy.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:47 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Germany Must Perish (and Theodore Kaufmann in general) is pretty much peak schizophrenia. He wanted Americans to be sterilized so that their children wouldn't die in European wars, and also thought that he could sterilize the entire population of Germany in one month.

Peak schizophrenia is that guy who sent letters to random people about moon brains.


Francis Dec, IIRC. Fascinating stuff, really. The global prehistoric Polish empire that was wiped out by the Worldwide Gangster Computer God.
< THE HIGH SWAGLORD | 8VALUES | POLITISCALES >
My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:48 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Peak schizophrenia is that guy who sent letters to random people about moon brains.


Francis Dec, IIRC. Fascinating stuff, really. The global prehistoric Polish empire that was wiped out by the Worldwide Gangster Computer God.

Yes, that guy.

Also, correction, MAD WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD
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The world is grey, the mountains old, the forges fire is ashen cold. No harp is wrung, no hammer falls, the darkness dwells in Durin's halls...
Formerly United Marxist Nations, Dec 02, 2011- Feb 01, 2017. +33,837 posts
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Postby Crysuko » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:50 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Francis Dec, IIRC. Fascinating stuff, really. The global prehistoric Polish empire that was wiped out by the Worldwide Gangster Computer God.

Yes, that guy.

Also, correction, MAD WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD

I think I have something new to put in my sig
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Official thread euthanologist
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:50 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Francis Dec, IIRC. Fascinating stuff, really. The global prehistoric Polish empire that was wiped out by the Worldwide Gangster Computer God.

Hadn't heard of him, but he seems very, er, interesting.

If it wasn't for the sheer volume and detail of his writings, I would assume he was just a prankster.
Capilean News (Updated 16 November)
Where is the horse gone? Where the warrior?
Where is the treasure-giver? Where are the seats at the feast?
Where are the revels in the hall?
Alas for the bright cup! Alas for the mailed warrior!
Alas for the splendour of the prince!
How that time has passed away, dark under the cover of night, as if it never were.

The Wanderer

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