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Has Angela Merkel's leadership been good for Germany?

Yes
45
27%
No
85
51%
Unsure
36
22%
 
Total votes : 166

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Surkiea
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Postby Surkiea » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:29 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:See I only recently saw Shapiro's neocon side. He makes valid points but his whole warmongering with Iran turned me away from him.

It seems to have turned many away from him, which is a good thing. We don't need to spend billions of dollars on pointless wars.

>Implying any war America has been in was pointless.
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Greater Cesnica
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:30 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Bolsonaro is based, his comments on gays, saying we need to return to biblical values and his pro America and Pro Israel stance are a breath of fresh air.

His social authoritarianism is atrocious actually.

Look at Surkiea's sig. 'Degenerate "Rights"' is a good one. Actually their entire sig is the manifestation of ignorance.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:30 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Bolsonaro is based, his comments on gays, saying we need to return to biblical values and his pro America and Pro Israel stance are a breath of fresh air.

His social authoritarianism is atrocious actually.


His laughter at the end though
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Greater Cesnica
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:30 pm

Surkiea wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It seems to have turned many away from him, which is a good thing. We don't need to spend billions of dollars on pointless wars.

>Implying any war America has been in was pointless.

Iraq? Vietnam? Hello?
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Irish Socialist Union
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Conservative Democracy

Postby Irish Socialist Union » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:30 pm

Hey, I'm new

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Surkiea
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Ex-Nation

Postby Surkiea » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:31 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:His social authoritarianism is atrocious actually.

Look at Surkiea's sig. 'Degenerate "Rights"' is a good one. Actually their entire sig is the manifestation of ignorance.

I guess it's ignorant for wanting to uphold western values.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:31 pm

As a side note, hello RWDT, it’s your favorite leftist who hangs around way too much!
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Surkiea
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Postby Surkiea » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:32 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Surkiea wrote:>Implying any war America has been in was pointless.

Iraq? Vietnam? Hello?

Iraq and Vietnam were perfectly justified actually.
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Irish Socialist Union
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Postby Irish Socialist Union » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:32 pm

Surkiea wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It seems to have turned many away from him, which is a good thing. We don't need to spend billions of dollars on pointless wars.

>Implying any war America has been in was pointless.

Ever heard of Iraq?

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North German Realm
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:32 pm

Regarding the poll question, despite my original expectations, yes. It is a good thing for Brazil, especially civil rights, because the relatively liberal legislature and supreme court are, in fear of the President fucking things up, passing more and more progressive legislature that they probably wouldn't if a reactionary pisspot hadn't come to office.
That said, not quite sure about the other aspects of his policy. Liberalism and progressive policies isn't gonna save the Amazon.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:32 pm

Irish Socialist Union wrote:Hey, I'm new

"Irish"
"Socialist"

Oh I can tell that we're going to get along juuuust fine. Seriously, though, welcome to the thread.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:32 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Novus America wrote:Eh I view Bolsonaro like Trump. A mixed bag, but a necessary evil to shake up the otherwise anemic politics.
They are wreaking balls.
But sometimes you need a wrecking ball. The problem is you need someone else to do the rebuilding.

Who's going to rebuild the Amazon when he's done wrecking it?


Well I do not think he will knock down the whole thing.
I strongly disagree with his environmental approach but really it changes little.

His predecessors were destroying it while pretending not to.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

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Irish Socialist Union
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Postby Irish Socialist Union » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:33 pm

Surkiea wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Iraq? Vietnam? Hello?

Iraq and Vietnam were perfectly justified actually.

Justified, yes. But in the end, they made no legitimate progress. Iraq took several steps backwards, actually. Middle Eastern power to a war-torn hell.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:34 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:His social authoritarianism is atrocious actually.

Look at Surkiea's sig. 'Degenerate "Rights"' is a good one. Actually their entire sig is the manifestation of ignorance.

When one's education is done by a fundamentalist pastor, such ignorance is to be expected.

Surkiea wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Look at Surkiea's sig. 'Degenerate "Rights"' is a good one. Actually their entire sig is the manifestation of ignorance.

I guess it's ignorant for wanting to uphold western values.

Those are medieval values, not western values.

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:34 pm

Novus America wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Who's going to rebuild the Amazon when he's done wrecking it?


Well I do not think he will knock down the whole thing.
I strongly disagree with his environmental approach but really it changes little.

His predecessors were destroying it while pretending not to.


And to no end pandered and pampered by mainstream media.
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Surkiea
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Postby Surkiea » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:35 pm

Irish Socialist Union wrote:
Surkiea wrote:Iraq and Vietnam were perfectly justified actually.

Justified, yes. But in the end, they made no legitimate progress. Iraq took several steps backwards, actually. Middle Eastern power to a war-torn hell.

The only reason Iraq is a hellhole was because we left without establishing a stable government, we should have stayed for a few more years to make sure Iraq was secure.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:35 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Novus America wrote:Eh I view Bolsonaro like Trump. A mixed bag at best, but a necessary evil to shake up the otherwise anemic politics.
They are wreaking balls.
But sometimes you need a wrecking ball. The problem is you need someone else to do the rebuilding.

Except he isn't a necessary evil, he's a fucking cartoon villain.


Well that is part of it. You have to make people realize just how bad the political system has gotten to get a real change.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. Pragmatism is my ideology.

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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:35 pm

Surkiea wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Iraq? Vietnam? Hello?

Iraq and Vietnam were perfectly justified actually.

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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:35 pm

Damnit, missed the first page
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Postby The Hindustani State » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:36 pm

Surkiea wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Iraq? Vietnam? Hello?

Iraq and Vietnam were perfectly justified actually.

:rofl:
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:37 pm

Surkiea wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Iraq? Vietnam? Hello?

Iraq and Vietnam were perfectly justified actually.

:rofl: Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, and Vietnam was unwinnable.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:37 pm

Surkiea wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Look at Surkiea's sig. 'Degenerate "Rights"' is a good one. Actually their entire sig is the manifestation of ignorance.

I guess it's ignorant for wanting to uphold western values.

Ah yes theocracies and discriminating against gays is totally aligned with western values. I assume you have no problem with Saudi Arabia then.
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My favourite revenge would be:
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Surkiea
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Postby Surkiea » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:37 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Look at Surkiea's sig. 'Degenerate "Rights"' is a good one. Actually their entire sig is the manifestation of ignorance.

When one's education is done by a fundamentalist pastor, such ignorance is to be expected.

Surkiea wrote:I guess it's ignorant for wanting to uphold western values.

Those are medieval values, not western values.

Those "medieval" vaules are what made our nation great, look how great things were back then compared to now.
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Corporate Bordello

Postby Great Minarchistan » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:37 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Novus America wrote:Eh I view Bolsonaro like Trump. A mixed bag, but a necessary evil to shake up the otherwise anemic politics.
They are wreaking balls.
But sometimes you need a wrecking ball. The problem is you need someone else to do the rebuilding.

Who's going to rebuild the Amazon when he's done wrecking it?

It's not like he can do much damage when the govt's protection measures on the amazon were piss poor to start with
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Postby Questarian New Yorkshire » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:38 pm

love it

A: Vietnam was justifiable
B: No it wasnt, because it was unwinnable!

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(1) Values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time - they can neither be fought for, nor destroyed. (ENOCH POWELL)
(2) No nationalism without internationalism, no internationalism without nationalism. (SOEKARNO)
(3) I only follow one party: the Vietnamese party. (BÁC HỒ)
(4) You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less. (ROBERT E LEE)

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