Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

[Temple State]

Not if you nationalize Finance and change the tax system in general (Social Credit).

So now you're socializing financial risk to the people? Why should taxpayers be on the hook because a government lender made a big fuck up?

Absolutely not. Freeze the assets of speculators and venture capitalists if they fuck up and turn it all over to somebody more nifty. Somebody more loyal to the Nation.

[Temple State]

I thought you were a demon...


Much like religions.

Religions don't really exist anymore without people to believe in them. If the people who believe in the religion modernize then the religion itself has modernized.

Even if Theology changes, God does not change (Malachi).

[Duvniask]

And it doesn't address the issue at hand, which is that Christians adhere to a book that condones genocide. The question I was responding to was asking why Christians should abandon the Old Testament; my response being that it is explicitly genocidal.

The Old Testament isn't a book, it's 46 books.

I was referring to the Bible as a whole in that sentence.

And you're only quoting from the earlier ones.

And regardless, no we're not going to change the Biblical Canon.

And regardless, you're gonna come out in favor of genocidal scripture. That's all anyone needs to know.

[Nakena]

I thought you were a demon...

I see you are getting to know me.

Unfortunately. We need a new Urban II.

Fuck that noise.

Renaissance popes were the best ones.

[Diopolis]

So now you're socializing financial risk to the people? Why should taxpayers be on the hook because a government lender made a big fuck up?

Absolutely not. Freeze the assets of speculators and venture capitalists if they fuck up and turn it all over to somebody more nifty. Somebody more loyal to the Nation.

Should've broken up the big banks in '08, TBH.

[Crysuko]

Religions don't really exist anymore without people to believe in them. If the people who believe in the religion modernize then the religion itself has modernized.

Even if Theology changes, God does not change (Malachi).

Which of the thousands of sects and interpretations says this

[Salus Maior]

So you aren't a trad-Catholic?

Considering he's blending 40K, Fascism, and Catholicism all together I would hazard a guess of...Nope.

[Temple State]

Why are you so obsessed with sterilization? You've brought it up so many times I can't keep track.

It prevents overpopulation and also can be used as a form of punishment. Although if someone actually wants to be sterilized, then there are other punishments that could be applied, such as castration.

And it lets us raise IQ to adapt to a post-industrial automated society, where blue collars are no longer needed. It would be inhumane to kill retards, but to phase them out? Why not. It is for the benefit of future generations.

Anybody wants Planet Idiocracy?

[Diopolis]

So you aren't a trad-Catholic?

Considering he's plenty 40K, Fascism, and Catholicism all together I would hazard a guess of...Nope.

Yeah. And then there's the post immediately below yours.

[Crysuko]

So you aren't a trad-Catholic?

Considering he's plenty 40K, Fascism, and Catholicism all together I would hazard a guess of...Nope.

Isn't fascism and Catholicism basically just falangism

[Temple State]

Neither do you then.

Where'd you get that idea, the first sentence in my post?

Fact: RCC doctrine has changed. Especially since the 60's.

So you aren't a trad-Catholic?

Que? I don't know your terminology but TradCat usually refers to Catholics who wants the Church to return to pre-VII doctrine and liturgy.

[Nakena]

What do you think is the cause of this? I'd think theres probably a number of investment funds around (pension or retirement aside) who would allow at least for indirect investment. But I am insufficiently familiar with the market. Yet.

I think the cause of it is that being a public company is no longer worth the trouble for many businesses. Companies used to go public because it gave them an easy way to raise equity if they needed it (usually to make acquisitions or expand their business). But it also comes with several drawbacks, including increased public scrutiny, filing requirements (which are actually quite expensive to keep up with), and the imposition of Chinese walls between directors that can make day-to-day business impractical.

Also, companies often went public so that they could easily pay their employees in company stock and employees could cash out when more liberally. This practice used to be the norm for large businesses and has now all but ended.

It's a pity. Would you say that the decline of payouts in company stocks has more to do with regulations/practical reasons or more a change of culture?

[Bear Stearns]

So now you're socializing financial risk to the people? Why should taxpayers be on the hook because a government lender made a big fuck up?

Absolutely not. Freeze the assets of speculators and venture capitalists if they fuck up and turn it all over to somebody more nifty. Somebody more loyal to the Nation.

You are proposing that speculators and venture capitalists become government employees, meaning that their mistakes are now borne by society at large.

[Crysuko]

Absolutely not. Freeze the assets of speculators and venture capitalists if they fuck up and turn it all over to somebody more nifty. Somebody more loyal to the Nation.

You are proposing that speculators and venture capitalists become government employees, meaning that their mistakes are now borne by society at large.

You mean they have some accountability now? That's terrible.

[Salus Maior]

I was referring to the Bible as a whole in that sentence.

And regardless, you're gonna come out in favor of genocidal scripture. That's all anyone needs to know.

So your statement is even less accurate.

It's not even something we practice, obviously. It's in the Bible because the foundation of ancient Israel and it's myths and history is an important part of understanding what is meant in the New Testament when it is said there is a "New Israel" (the Church). The Biblical canon is the way it is because it's important to understanding doctrine and dogma and the themes of the New Testament.

[Temple State]

Absolutely not. Freeze the assets of speculators and venture capitalists if they fuck up and turn it all over to somebody more nifty. Somebody more loyal to the Nation.

Should've broken up the big banks in '08, TBH.

Something along those lines. Central banking should only be public, as should all finance. It is not something that creates value in itself, it merely renders the circulation of actual goods and services possible and easier. Finance is like the blood of the body, but it is the arms, brain and the mouth (WORK) that adds the nutrition to it.

[Diopolis]

Considering he's plenty 40K, Fascism, and Catholicism all together I would hazard a guess of...Nope.

Isn't fascism and Catholicism basically just falangism

Falangism is a real thing and is either a subset of fascism or a close cousin, depending on who you ask. Nevertheless it doesn't have much to do with what Temple seems to be advocating.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Ey, Bear Stearns, what's your opinion on Credit Unions and Online Banks. Relevant because I'll be entering the workforce in less than a year.

[Bear Stearns]

I think the cause of it is that being a public company is no longer worth the trouble for many businesses. Companies used to go public because it gave them an easy way to raise equity if they needed it (usually to make acquisitions or expand their business). But it also comes with several drawbacks, including increased public scrutiny, filing requirements (which are actually quite expensive to keep up with), and the imposition of Chinese walls between directors that can make day-to-day business impractical.

Also, companies often went public so that they could easily pay their employees in company stock and employees could cash out when more liberally. This practice used to be the norm for large businesses and has now all but ended.

It's a pity. Would you say that the decline of payouts in company stocks has more to do with regulations/practical reasons or more a change of culture?

A whole multitude of factors that have more to do with general US economic history. US companies now have to openly compete against Chinese, Indian, and Latin American competitors. In their eyes, such luxuries aren't worth it anymore.

[Temple State]

Considering he's plenty 40K, Fascism, and Catholicism all together I would hazard a guess of...Nope.

Isn't fascism and Catholicism basically just falangism

You can see before that I mentioned Falangism as one of the Fascisms most closely aligned with my own. I prefer the term Integralism though.

[Hanafuridake]

It prevents overpopulation and also can be used as a form of punishment. Although if someone actually wants to be sterilized, then there are other punishments that could be applied, such as castration.

And it lets us raise IQ to adapt to a post-industrial automated society, where blue collars are no longer needed. It would be inhumane to kill retards, but to phase them out? Why not. It is for the benefit of future generations.

Anybody wants Planet Idiocracy?

I'm pretty sure you're violating a lot of the Church's tenets here.

Any sterilization which of itself, that is, of its own nature and condition, has the sole immediate effect of rendering the generative faculty incapable of procreation, is to be considered direct sterilization, as the term is understood in the declarations of the pontifical magisterium, especially of Pius XII. Therefore, notwithstanding any subjectively right intention of those whose actions are prompted by the care or prevention of physical or mental illness which is foreseen or feared as a result of pregnancy, such sterilization remains absolutely forbidden by the doctrine of the church.

Neither can any mandate of public authority, which would seek to impose direct sterilization as necessary for the common good, be invoked, for such sterilization damages the dignity and inviolability of the human person.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Ey, Bear Stearns, what's your opinion on Credit Unions and Online Banks. Relevant because I'll be entering the workforce in less than a year.

Ooh, what is your intended occupation/profession?

[Temple State]

Absolutely not. Freeze the assets of speculators and venture capitalists if they fuck up and turn it all over to somebody more nifty. Somebody more loyal to the Nation.

You are proposing that speculators and venture capitalists become government employees, meaning that their mistakes are now borne by society at large.

Public embezzlement: The Rope. Get it?

[Crysuko]

Isn't fascism and Catholicism basically just falangism

You can see before that I mentioned Falangism as one of the Fascisms most closely aligned with my own. I prefer the term Integralism though.

Tomayto tomahto

[Bear Stearns]

Absolutely not. Freeze the assets of speculators and venture capitalists if they fuck up and turn it all over to somebody more nifty. Somebody more loyal to the Nation.

Should've broken up the big banks in '08, TBH.

Not necessarily. Letting Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns fail was good. Natural consequence of their own risk-taking. However, I would not have bailed out Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Wachovia, AIG, or Washington Mutual. But that's different than breaking up existing companies.

Unrelated, however, but due to its disparate lines of business and gargantuan size, there is a growing group of people who believe that JPMorgan Chase should be broken up. Their reasons are varied (some people who advocate this are JPMorgan Chase stockholders), but it is interesting to think about.