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Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

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Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan?

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No
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:39 pm

Fahran wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:We should evacuate the remaining Christian populations from the Middle East, then let the Muslims and Jews have at it.

We've evacuated a decent number of Assyrians. Alternative: make Lebanon an Arab Christian state again. :^)


Why stop there though?
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:49 pm

Daily reminder that the UK still legally discriminates against non-Anglicans.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:30 pm

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Postby Diopolis » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:35 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:We should legalize certain drugs and tax them.

No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:38 pm

Fahran wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:We should evacuate the remaining Christian populations from the Middle East, then let the Muslims and Jews have at it.

We've evacuated a decent number of Assyrians. Alternative: make Lebanon an Arab Christian state again. :^)


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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:04 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:We should legalize certain drugs and tax them.

No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.

A great way to make the cartels even more powerful, just like the crackdown that was prohibition.

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Postby Joohan » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:42 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.

A great way to make the cartels even more powerful, just like the crackdown that was prohibition.


... Im not following here. You'll very nearly wipe out your recruitment pool when it comes to dealers with penalties that steep. Sure, less competition - but also less people willing to take the job. Really, I think we should work more closely with foreign governments, and viciously wipe out these organized crime syndicates.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:12 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:We should legalize certain drugs and tax them.

No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.


Start with the Sacklers and El Chapo.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:17 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:We should legalize certain drugs and tax them.

No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.

Is drug dealing murder?
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:24 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.

A great way to make the cartels even more powerful, just like the crackdown that was prohibition.

Wat.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:30 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.

Is drug dealing murder?

No, it’s a corruption of local communities that deserves a strong deterrrent due to its devastating effects.
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:32 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Is drug dealing murder?

No, it’s a corruption of local communities that deserves a strong deterrrent due to its devastating effects.

The best deterrence would be to address the underlying issues that make people want to take the drugs to begin with
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:35 pm

I hate drug dealers with a passion, having lived good portions of my life surrounded by drug and gang activity and with a family member being an ex-drug dealer. Despite their status as parasitic scum, if we were to have the death penalty for drug dealing (not that we should) I wouldn't be comfortable hanging the average street level dealer or even dial a dope driver, since a lot of them have been left with few opportunities, especially in quite crime ridden areas with numerous social problems. Guys at the level such as El Chapo or other major traffickers is another thing, but your average dope slinger shouldn't be hung for it at the least.
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Postby Joohan » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:35 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No, it’s a corruption of local communities that deserves a strong deterrrent due to its devastating effects.

The best deterrence would be to address the underlying issues that make people want to take the drugs to begin with


This, and to persecute the individuals who peddle those same narcotics.
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Postby Joohan » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:51 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:I hate drug dealers with a passion, having lived good portions of my life surrounded by drug and gang activity and with a family member being an ex-drug dealer. Despite their status as parasitic scum, if we were to have the death penalty for drug dealing (not that we should) I wouldn't be comfortable hanging the average street level dealer or even dial a dope driver, since a lot of them have been left with few opportunities, especially in quite crime ridden areas with numerous social problems. Guys at the level such as El Chapo or other major traffickers is another thing, but your average dope slinger shouldn't be hung for it at the least.


I mean... we wouldn't have to worry about repeat offenders.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:57 pm

Joohan wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:I hate drug dealers with a passion, having lived good portions of my life surrounded by drug and gang activity and with a family member being an ex-drug dealer. Despite their status as parasitic scum, if we were to have the death penalty for drug dealing (not that we should) I wouldn't be comfortable hanging the average street level dealer or even dial a dope driver, since a lot of them have been left with few opportunities, especially in quite crime ridden areas with numerous social problems. Guys at the level such as El Chapo or other major traffickers is another thing, but your average dope slinger shouldn't be hung for it at the least.


I mean... we wouldn't have to worry about repeat offenders.

I'm generally against the death penalty, but at the very least I'd hope that my fellow Christians would agree that minor level dealers should be given a shot to redeem themselves and begin to build a good life afterwards.
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:01 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I mean... we wouldn't have to worry about repeat offenders.

I'm generally against the death penalty, but at the very least I'd hope that my fellow Christians would agree that minor level dealers should be given a shot to redeem themselves and begin to build a good life afterwards.

Slingers like those tend to come from those who have failed to find legitimate work otherwise, employment programs and ensuring a good mix of openings, apprenticeships, education and such will go a long way to giving those who feel trapped into dealing a way out
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby Joohan » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:10 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Joohan wrote:
I mean... we wouldn't have to worry about repeat offenders.

I'm generally against the death penalty, but at the very least I'd hope that my fellow Christians would agree that minor level dealers should be given a shot to redeem themselves and begin to build a good life afterwards.


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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:23 pm

Joohan wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:I'm generally against the death penalty, but at the very least I'd hope that my fellow Christians would agree that minor level dealers should be given a shot to redeem themselves and begin to build a good life afterwards.


It was dark joke

I know, I was just commenting in general.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:11 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:We should legalize certain drugs and tax them.

No. We should introduce public execution for dealing in narcotics.

President Rodrigo Roa Duterte would like to know your location.

Personally, I'm with the "legalize" crowd, mainly because per Chesterton, "the free man owns himself," etc.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:48 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:A great way to make the cartels even more powerful, just like the crackdown that was prohibition.

Wat.

Severe crackdowns on a substance does not magically make it go away. That ain't a difficult thing to understand, as we tried it before with alcohol.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:54 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:There is actually an argument that the official status of Lutheranism is why it's so weak there.


Disappointing as it is that attendance and participation in Scandinavian state churches is so low, it is still a far better religion than the Southern Baptists.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:00 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Well, as a Catholic in the U.S I'd rather we not go back to Protestant dominion over education and public life.


At least not those of the Upper Class New England types.


Posh New England Protestants are the best kind of American, though. :^)

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:22 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
At least not those of the Upper Class New England types.


Posh New England Protestants are the best kind of American, though. :^)


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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:22 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Is drug dealing murder?

No, it’s a corruption of local communities that deserves a strong deterrrent due to its devastating effects.


As previously stated, I'm all in favor of this being done to Cartel members and people like the Sackler family. I definitely think prescription med abuse, Heroin and the like should be met with lethal force. Weed, MDMA, Acid and the like? Nah.
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