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Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan?

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Postby North German Realm » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:49 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
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Your idea of an elected monarchy is no different than the presidential system and defames the real actual historical institution of monarchy.

How does it defame monarchy if it's better than monarchy?

It defames monarchy because elective monarchy, at least in the way that Hana presumes Meligoland is defining it, is not monarchy, but is pretended to be so. It's like how a theocratic democracy defames actual democracy.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:55 am

North German Realm wrote:It's like how a theocratic democracy defames actual democracy.

It doesn’t, though.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:58 am

North German Realm wrote:And they did revolt.

I'm not aware of any serious revolts within France against Napoleon after he was declared Emperor.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:58 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
North German Realm wrote:It's like how a theocratic democracy defames actual democracy.

It doesn’t, though.

By definition it does.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:59 am

Napkizemlja wrote:
North German Realm wrote:And they did revolt.

I'm not aware of any serious revolts within France against Napoleon after he was declared Emperor.

Unfortunately, the French people were happy to have such an awful man as their emperor.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:00 am

North German Realm wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:It doesn’t, though.

By definition it does.

“Iran is an Islamic REPUBLIC, not an Islamic DEMOCRACY”
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:01 am

Napkizemlja wrote:
North German Realm wrote:And they did revolt.

I'm not aware of any serious revolts within France against Napoleon after he was declared Emperor.

Napoleon was not a monarch in the first place (not by any actual definition of the term), and he took power by what was mostly a popular coup. The monarch that was "thrust" upon the French was Louis XVIII who became the King of France in 1814 after the Sixth Coalition.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:03 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
North German Realm wrote:By definition it does.

“Iran is an Islamic REPUBLIC, not an Islamic DEMOCRACY”
Ignoring your petty attempt at baiting, no. Democracy and Theocracy can't coexist, because their definition gives the right to "rule" to different bodies. A theocracy is specifically a rule by clergy instated and done in the name of a deity. A democracy is specifically a rule by the people (normally in the way of representation). The idea of representation leaves the same door the idea of clerical rule in the name of god walks in from.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:39 am

In some good news, I might be starting the process in order to be ordained as a priest soon.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:50 am

Hanafuridake wrote:In some good news, I might be starting the process in order to be ordained as a priest soon.


I'm beginning to think everyone here is but an aspect of the cross-faith multiversal divinity formerly known as Parkus.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:28 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:In some good news, I might be starting the process in order to be ordained as a priest soon.


I'm beginning to think everyone here is but an aspect of the cross-faith multiversal divinity formerly known as Parkus.


Parkus is like the Kingdom of Heaven in that he is both inside and outside you.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:34 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:In some good news, I might be starting the process in order to be ordained as a priest soon.


I'm beginning to think everyone here is but an aspect of the cross-faith multiversal divinity formerly known as Parkus.


:lol:
Though the faith of the individual once known as Parkus, despite constantly changing is a always based on fear of teh gays. That is its one consistent tenet...
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:09 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:In some good news, I might be starting the process in order to be ordained as a priest soon.


I'm beginning to think everyone here is but an aspect of the cross-faith multiversal divinity formerly known as Parkus.

He did declare me his patron saint of ideological purity.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:14 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I'm beginning to think everyone here is but an aspect of the cross-faith multiversal divinity formerly known as Parkus.


Parkus is like the Kingdom of Heaven in that he is both inside and outside you.


The real Parkus was inside us all along.

Thread-appropriate snark aside, good luck; this is something you seem to be passionate about and the opportunity to pursue such things is rare in life.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:03 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
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I'm not a Monarchist though?


You aren't? :blink:

I could've sworn remembering you saying something about wanting an American Emperor.

I think that was me...

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:36 am

Novus America wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I'm beginning to think everyone here is but an aspect of the cross-faith multiversal divinity formerly known as Parkus.


:lol:
Though the faith of the individual once known as Parkus, despite constantly changing is a always based on fear of teh gays. That is its one consistent tenet...

I don't get it. Was he changing religions faster than a Wendy's drive-through?

I'm not likely to understand any of this Parkus humor, in all fairness...
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:38 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Novus America wrote:
:lol:
Though the faith of the individual once known as Parkus, despite constantly changing is a always based on fear of teh gays. That is its one consistent tenet...

I don't get it. Was he changing religions faster than a Wendy's drive-through?

Pretty much.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:41 am

Diopolis wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:I don't get it. Was he changing religions faster than a Wendy's drive-through?

Pretty much.

Ah; and when you called him out he disappeared, or something?

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Postby Novus America » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:46 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Novus America wrote:
:lol:
Though the faith of the individual once known as Parkus, despite constantly changing is a always based on fear of teh gays. That is its one consistent tenet...

I don't get it. Was he changing religions faster than a Wendy's drive-through?

I'm not likely to understand any of this Parkus humor, in all fairness...


Pretty much, he went from rad trad Orthodox to rad trad Muslim to rad trad Catholic. Or at least the personas he was using did.

But that one aspect remained the same.

He never got really creative and pretended to be a a flaming gay Unitarian Universalist or something really creatively different from the earlier personas.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:49 am

Novus America wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:I don't get it. Was he changing religions faster than a Wendy's drive-through?

I'm not likely to understand any of this Parkus humor, in all fairness...


Pretty much, he went from rad trad Orthodox to rad trad Muslim to rad trad Catholic. Or at least the personas he was using did.

But that one aspect remained the same.

He never got really creative and pretended to be a a flaming gay Unitarian Universalist or something really creatively different from the earlier personas.

At least he kept the con realistic. If he had switched to something totally different he would've probably blown his cover sooner, no?
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:50 am

Novus America wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:I don't get it. Was he changing religions faster than a Wendy's drive-through?

I'm not likely to understand any of this Parkus humor, in all fairness...


Pretty much, he went from rad trad Orthodox to rad trad Muslim to rad trad Catholic. Or at least the personas he was using did.

But that one aspect remained the same.

He never got really creative and pretended to be a a flaming gay Unitarian Universalist or something really creatively different from the earlier personas.

When did he imitate me?
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Postby Cappuccina » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:50 am

North German Realm wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:“Iran is an Islamic REPUBLIC, not an Islamic DEMOCRACY”
Ignoring your petty attempt at baiting, no. Democracy and Theocracy can't coexist, because their definition gives the right to "rule" to different bodies. A theocracy is specifically a rule by clergy instated and done in the name of a deity. A democracy is specifically a rule by the people (normally in the way of representation). The idea of representation leaves the same door the idea of clerical rule in the name of god walks in from.

Though it is unlikely, a democracy could conceivably be theocratic as well. For example, if the constitution and laws of a hypothetical state were based upon a religious text. Clergy, needn't necessarily be given any specific powers with in such a state.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:53 am

Cappuccina wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Ignoring your petty attempt at baiting, no. Democracy and Theocracy can't coexist, because their definition gives the right to "rule" to different bodies. A theocracy is specifically a rule by clergy instated and done in the name of a deity. A democracy is specifically a rule by the people (normally in the way of representation). The idea of representation leaves the same door the idea of clerical rule in the name of god walks in from.

Though it is unlikely, a democracy could conceivably be theocratic as well. For example, if the constitution and laws of a hypothetical state were based upon a religious text. Clergy, needn't necessarily be given any specific powers with in such a state.

Didn’t Cyprus go through a theocratic democracy phase?
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:53 am

Cappuccina wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Ignoring your petty attempt at baiting, no. Democracy and Theocracy can't coexist, because their definition gives the right to "rule" to different bodies. A theocracy is specifically a rule by clergy instated and done in the name of a deity. A democracy is specifically a rule by the people (normally in the way of representation). The idea of representation leaves the same door the idea of clerical rule in the name of god walks in from.

Though it is unlikely, a democracy could conceivably be theocratic as well. For example, if the constitution and laws of a hypothetical state were based upon a religious text. Clergy, needn't necessarily be given any specific powers with in such a state.

Which wouldn't be a theocracy. Theocracies are necessarily ruled by clergy in the name of (and instated by) a deity, not a state with a religious-originated constitution.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:54 am

Diopolis wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:Though it is unlikely, a democracy could conceivably be theocratic as well. For example, if the constitution and laws of a hypothetical state were based upon a religious text. Clergy, needn't necessarily be given any specific powers with in such a state.

Didn’t Cyprus go through a theocratic democracy phase?

Are you referring to the brief reign of President Archbishop Makarios?

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