Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

[Napkizemlja]

And you call my ideals unrealistic...

Given how poorly Arabs seem to fight against Israel, a Jewish Empire in the Middle East is a whole lot more likely than a one world atheist government which disregards basic human rights like bodily sovereignty. Your ideals are literally just Christian evangelist's nightmares.

Tbf the IDF isn't what it once was. They couldn't effectively curtail Hezbollah in 2006 and it has gotten worse since then. At the current rate of IDF decay and with reasonable investment by some of the other Arab states in their own military capabilities, I could see them at least fighting the IDF to a stalemate conventionally in the near future.

[Napkizemlja]

It doesn't help either that Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders seem to have fallen for the Rumsfeld doctrine with the added caveat that cyberwarfare is going to be more important than boots on the ground.

[Novus America]

Given how poorly Arabs seem to fight against Israel, a Jewish Empire in the Middle East is a whole lot more likely than a one world atheist government which disregards basic human rights like bodily sovereignty. Your ideals are literally just Christian evangelist's nightmares.

Tbf the IDF isn't what it once was. They couldn't effectively curtail Hezbollah in 2006 and it has gotten worse since then. At the current rate of IDF decay and with reasonable investment by some of the other Arab states in their own military capabilities, I could see them at least fighting the IDF to a stalemate conventionally in the near future.

The problem with Arab militaries is not lack of investment, it is structural and cultural.
Rampant cronyism, corruption and nepotism, tribal divisions, the idea that sharing information (including with your subordinates and other units) is dangerous and other such attitudes are the greater problem. Also Arab countries generally have poor education systems.

Even the best armed and equipped military will fail in those circumstances.

[Kowani]

What do yall think about the media monopoly in America? Six corporations ( GE, Viacom, Newscorp, Time warner, CBS, and Disney ) own 90% of all news sources in the United States. I think such considerable monopolies are a threat to national security, freedom of the press, and freedom of speech, and that these companies should be broken up. It would be nice to see something akin to an American BBC - an unbiased news company that bears no profit motive when reporting the news.

Let's not misuse terms, okay? As bad a situation as it may be, that's not a monopoly. You can tell because you listed more than one company.

Oligopoly, né?

[Joohan]

Let's not misuse terms, okay? As bad a situation as it may be, that's not a monopoly. You can tell because you listed more than one company.

Oligopoly, né?

A hexopoly, if you will?

[Kowani]

Oligopoly, né?

A hexopoly, if you will?

If we must be pedantic.

[Joohan]

A hexopoly, if you will?

If we must be pedantic.

Oh we must.

[Kowani]

If we must be pedantic.

Oh we must.

Must we, though?

[Joohan]

Oh we must.

Must we, though?

Indeed, we must.

We must bust the trusts.

[Kowani]

Must we, though?

Indeed, we must.

We must bust the trusts.

The ghost of Taft looks on with pride.

[Fahran]

Not if Turkey or Iran (neither of which are Arab, btw) have anything to say about it (which they do). Syria, Lebanon (Hezbollah), Palestine (Hamas) and Yemen (Houthis) - that is to say - all the Arab opponents of the American-Israeli-Saudi Axis are all backed by the Iranians/Persians and the Turks (who are themselves backed by Russia); who are bent on staving off Israeli Hegemony in the Middle East. Pax Judaica in the Middle East is by no means a certain, or even desirable outcome.

Iran is actually experiencing a substantial degree of strain from its foreign adventures, and that has spurred a good many of the recent protests, which are unusual in that they came from more conservative factions of the Iranian population such as the bazaaris. Beyond that, Iran's military capabilities are untested against professional opponents. It's recent and prominent successes have been in collaboration with the SAA and the Iraqi military against piecemeal forces that more closely resembled militias than standing proper military units. I suspect that a professional force, one on par with Iraq's military under Saddam Hussein, would give the Revolutionary Guard a lot of trouble, and would probably result in human waves and child soldiers become once more a fixture of Iranian military doctrine.

Turkey, on the other hand, would arguably be the one counter-balance to a theoretical Greater Israel militarily, but, given their mutual propensity towards the oppression of ethnic minorities and often cordial relationship up until now, I don't necessarily see them as an automatic opponent to the idea so long as it can benefit Turkish national interests. Notably, Turkey is NOT an ally of Russia. They have squabbled throughout the Syrian Civil War and have a number of disputes regarding the Caucasus - specifically Russia is very pro-Armenian. Additionally, during the Cold War, Turkey was even more pro-American than Israel, who wavered between the Soviet and American camps in much the same way as the Arabs did. It was actually the planting of missiles in Turkey that motivated the Soviets to do the same to us in Cuba.

Lastly, I'm not serious about establishing Greater Israel. Such an idea is both impractical and immoral from practically every reasonable standpoint. At the moment, Israel is probably going to continue gobbling up the West Bank until the Palestinians are forced to accept a permanent settlement or lose everything, which really sucks but is pretty tame as far as alleged wars of annihilation go.

[Fahran]

Tbf the IDF isn't what it once was. They couldn't effectively curtail Hezbollah in 2006 and it has gotten worse since then. At the current rate of IDF decay and with reasonable investment by some of the other Arab states in their own military capabilities, I could see them at least fighting the IDF to a stalemate conventionally in the near future.

I don't think people understand how near Israel has come to defeat in the past. It was the chronic incompetence and lack of coordination among the Arab brass that allowed the IDF to triumph so miraculously. When you look at the number of troops actually deployed, when they were deployed, and the amount of equipment destroyed in the earliest stages of the conflicts by risky IDF actions, it becomes clear that the reason the Egyptians, Syrians, and Jordanians received so many bloody noses is that their leadership and foresight was amazingly poor. It's largely a cultural issue - as recent Saudi losses in the Yemeni Civil War demonstrate - when it comes to conventional warfare. I don't believe better equipment will really resolve the issue from an Arab standpoint. The military forces with the greatest degree of success against Israel were probably the Arab Legion, which adopted a lot from the British even having some British officers.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Soon, brothers

[Fahran]

Soon, brothers

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This is so sad. Alexa, can we revive Michel Aflaq?

[Bear Stearns]

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Cheers everyone.

[Nakena]

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Cheers everyone.

Was a pleasure to have you around. Good luck with your business and be well.

[Dresderstan]

My time on this website will likely dwindle down to zero over the next few months and my nation will likely go inactive. In the past month, my team and I have just onboarded five clients with transactions that all need to close by February.

I have signed away my free time, my social life, my weekends, and my holidays. The rest of this week will be the last sort of lull until things kick into gear next Monday. I'll still be posting here and there a bit for the next couple of days if I have a minute, but eventually I will fade into the distance and disappear.

Cheers everyone.

Aww not another one biting the dust.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

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Cheers everyone.

Unfortunate to see you go, but glad to know that you are doing well business-wise.

Your prowess in debate will be missed.

[Proctopeo]

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Cheers everyone.

Au revoir. I wish you luck in your future endeavors, Bear Stearns!

[Camelone]

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I have signed away my free time, my social life, my weekends, and my holidays. The rest of this week will be the last sort of lull until things kick into gear next Monday. I'll still be posting here and there a bit for the next couple of days if I have a minute, but eventually I will fade into the distance and disappear.

Cheers everyone.

It was a pleasure to make your acquaintance, and reading your posts and arguments was always something that was enjoyable. May your future be prosperous and filled with jolliness, God bless you.

[Genivaria]

I submit for discussion to this thread one Mary Sophia Allen. Militant Feminist, Fascist, Rabidly Anti-Communist. Not a combination you hear very often.

Prior to WW1 she was a very militant member of the suffragist movement participating in multiple hunger strikes that saw her imprisoned.
Later after the Great War she became a member of an auxiliary police organization and later its head.

Even later still she became involved in proto-fascist movements and was an admirer of Hitler's and Mussolini's.

Thoughts and opinions on this woman?

[Kowani]

I submit for discussion to this thread one Mary Sophia Allen. Militant Feminist, Fascist, Rabidly Anti-Communist. Not a combination you hear very often.

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Prior to WW1 she was a very militant member of the suffragist movement participating in multiple hunger strikes that saw her imprisoned.
Later after the Great War she became a member of an auxiliary police organization and later its head.

Even later still she became involved in proto-fascist movements and was an admirer of Hitler's and Mussolini's.

Thoughts and opinions on this woman?

Imma put her under the “burning stick up the ass” column.

[Totally Not OEP]

I submit for discussion to this thread one Mary Sophia Allen. Militant Feminist, Fascist, Rabidly Anti-Communist. Not a combination you hear very often.

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Prior to WW1 she was a very militant member of the suffragist movement participating in multiple hunger strikes that saw her imprisoned.
Later after the Great War she became a member of an auxiliary police organization and later its head.

Even later still she became involved in proto-fascist movements and was an admirer of Hitler's and Mussolini's.

Thoughts and opinions on this woman?

Confusion

[Totally Not OEP]

My time on this website will likely dwindle down to zero over the next few months and my nation will likely go inactive. In the past month, my team and I have just onboarded five clients with transactions that all need to close by February.

I have signed away my free time, my social life, my weekends, and my holidays. The rest of this week will be the last sort of lull until things kick into gear next Monday. I'll still be posting here and there a bit for the next couple of days if I have a minute, but eventually I will fade into the distance and disappear.

Cheers everyone.

Miss yah bro.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I submit for discussion to this thread one Mary Sophia Allen. Militant Feminist, Fascist, Rabidly Anti-Communist. Not a combination you hear very often.

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Prior to WW1 she was a very militant member of the suffragist movement participating in multiple hunger strikes that saw her imprisoned.
Later after the Great War she became a member of an auxiliary police organization and later its head.

Even later still she became involved in proto-fascist movements and was an admirer of Hitler's and Mussolini's.

Thoughts and opinions on this woman?

Imma put her under the “burning stick up the ass” column.

What do you mean by that? What's a burning stick up the ass?