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Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

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Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan?

Yes
37
31%
No
31
26%
Unsure
53
44%
 
Total votes : 121

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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:29 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:When I’m sober y’all are fucked

;)
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:35 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:When I’m sober y’all are fucked

;)


I’m six tequila shots, two long islands and I lost fucking count of the jello shots lol
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We out with the gang
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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:37 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Crysuko wrote: ;)


I’m six tequila shots, two long islands and I lost fucking count of the jello shots lol

How do you function?
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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:41 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
I’m six tequila shots, two long islands and I lost fucking count of the jello shots lol

How do you function?


im a fratlord
We shoot .223's
We'll take your life
We out with the gang
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:45 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:How do you function?


im a fratlord

Basically your liver is held together with scar tissue and cysts.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:47 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
im a fratlord

Basically your liver is held together with scar tissue and cysts.


Bro this accurate af
We shoot .223's
We'll take your life
We out with the gang
You know we gon' slide

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:50 pm

I'm really glad I got all my drinking urges out in high school lol
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Benuty
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:55 pm

Broke: Lincoln freed the slaves.

Woke: Lincoln freed the white man from the excesses of its greatest burden.

Ironically some people do believe the latter rather seriously.
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The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
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Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:26 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:I don't buy this idea that the treaty was unfair on Germany. Germany dragged France, Belgium and Britain into the war, and German troops marched through foreign streets while exploiting Franco-Belgian industry. Germany's industrial base was relatively untouched by the war, not so for France. When there's vigorous debate on Versailles among historians, you cannot say unilaterally that it was unfair.

Both Germany and France chose to honor their alliances, damning the consequences. Germany cannot be blamed for France entering the war, although they are to blame for involving neutral Belgium.
Regardless, the treaty was unfair because it attempted to foist the economic and moral consequences of the war onto a nation which was already in dire straits, economically and politically. British and American revision was justified because it sought to prevent the treaty from causing further destruction to both Germany and France.
I'll concede that, nevertheless, France succeeded where Germany failed, even though the financial burden was larger (23% to 2.5% of GDP).

The circumstances that France found itself in and that Weimar Germany found itself do not correlate, except perhaps superficially. France was territorially intact and in possession of a vast colonial empire, providing a vast amount of resources with which to rebuild its economy. Its industries were also largely untouched and actually grew substantially in the immediate aftermath of the war, in contrast to Germany's (which while intact, were significantly hampered by Germany's post-war economic situation). France politically was also not nearly as divided as Weimar Germany was, and its recovery was aided by a unified public.
The two situations are really not comparable.
The point still stands. Whether or not it was politically convenient to pay reparations, Germany had an obligation to pay, and no amount of catastrophising can avert that. Again, this is made abundantly clear with the benefit of hindsight. Germany didn't pay (much) and it still ended up in the toilet.

I think we're fundamentally opposed as to whether or not obligations should be met without regard for pragmaticism.
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm really glad I got all my drinking urges out in high school lol

Before I became Muslim, I used to drink before passing out. Some of my older TET posts are full of drunken nonsense. It's embarrassing lol

I remember farn or some other mod told me to knock it off. Haha
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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:55 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm really glad I got all my drinking urges out in high school lol

Before I became Muslim, I used to drink before passing out. Some of my older TET posts are full of drunken nonsense. It's embarrassing lol

I remember farn or some other mod told me to knock it off. Haha


The mods hate me too; it’s okay though, I fucking hate them too.
We shoot .223's
We'll take your life
We out with the gang
You know we gon' slide

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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:00 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Before I became Muslim, I used to drink before passing out. Some of my older TET posts are full of drunken nonsense. It's embarrassing lol

I remember farn or some other mod told me to knock it off. Haha


The mods hate me too; it’s okay though, I fucking hate them too.


My greatest bugbear is how arrogant they can be, Reploid especially gets on my nerves as she specifically made an OC for the purpose of banning people, that is the very definition of hubris. It's not even a good design, looks like it was ripped straight out of a PS1 FMV.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:08 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Before I became Muslim, I used to drink before passing out. Some of my older TET posts are full of drunken nonsense. It's embarrassing lol

I remember farn or some other mod told me to knock it off. Haha


The mods hate me too; it’s okay though, I fucking hate them too.

OEP, you're my favorite authoritarian, and I love you, but you should go to bed.
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:09 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
The mods hate me too; it’s okay though, I fucking hate them too.

OEP, you're my favorite authoritarian, and I love you, but you should go to bed.

Tired

And

Emotional
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:10 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
The mods hate me too; it’s okay though, I fucking hate them too.

OEP, you're my favorite authoritarian, and I love you, but you should go to bed.

Wounded. Wounded, I say! :p
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:12 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Jolthig wrote:OEP, you're my favorite authoritarian, and I love you, but you should go to bed.

Tired

And

Emotional

I see.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:OEP, you're my favorite authoritarian, and I love you, but you should go to bed.

Wounded. Wounded, I say! :p

:p
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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:15 pm

Fuck bed I’m bar hopping and flexing on my ex
We shoot .223's
We'll take your life
We out with the gang
You know we gon' slide

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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:18 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:Fuck bed I’m bar hopping and flexing on my ex

Well, be careful OEP. Don't get yourself into trouble.
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:20 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Fuck bed I’m bar hopping and flexing on my ex

Well, be careful OEP. Don't get yourself into trouble.

He's a NatSynd, he'll go hard for a while, then burn out and fade into irrelevance.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:29 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Both Germany and France chose to honor their alliances, damning the consequences. Germany cannot be blamed for France entering the war, although they are to blame for involving neutral Belgium.
Regardless, the treaty was unfair because it attempted to foist the economic and moral consequences of the war onto a nation which was already in dire straits, economically and politically. British and American revision was justified because it sought to prevent the treaty from causing further destruction to both Germany and France.

France refused to mobilize along with Russia, and Britain guaranteed French neutrality in a telegram to Kaiser Wilhelm, who accepted their proposal for an Eastern War. Kaiser Willy tried to order Moltke to strike Russia alone, but Moltke convinced that the two-front plan had to go on for technical reasons. While there's room for hypothesising whether France and the UK would have entered the war later, the fact remains, it was absolutely Germany's fault for France entering the war.

Agree to disagree, although I take special exception to your claim that the treaty was destroying France. Quite the opposite, the Ruhr occupation was returning a moderate profit, and as I've explained earlier, French steel production was impaired for the rest of the interwar. Even if we accept that the revisions were justified, Germany still underpaid, even when it was much more economically stable. The truth is, the lack of enforcement doomed Versailles. If it were more enforced, I believe war could have been averted. Alas, Europe gave the Hun a chance and paid for it, many times over.

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:05 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
The mods hate me too; it’s okay though, I fucking hate them too.


My greatest bugbear is how arrogant they can be, Reploid especially gets on my nerves as she specifically made an OC for the purpose of banning people, that is the very definition of hubris. It's not even a good design, looks like it was ripped straight out of a PS1 FMV.

Yeah, it's kind of insulting to the players tbh.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:06 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:Fuck bed I’m bar hopping and flexing on my ex

Well, be careful OEP. Don't get yourself into trouble.


12 don’t want none
We shoot .223's
We'll take your life
We out with the gang
You know we gon' slide

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:08 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Well, be careful OEP. Don't get yourself into trouble.


12 don’t want none

Weed is still better.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Jolthig
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Postby Jolthig » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:17 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
12 don’t want none

Weed is still better.

Play some cypress hill then, while you're at it.
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Totally Not OEP
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:22 pm

Rolly rolly rolly got me stargazing
We shoot .223's
We'll take your life
We out with the gang
You know we gon' slide

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