Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

[Saiwania]

I'd subsidize families which have +3 - 5 children and provide paid maternity leave, with unpaid overtime being banned. The idea being that if workers actually receive financial security and aren't overworked, they'll pursue romance more. And with the added incentive of the state rewarding you for having babies.

Well, there are some people who just never will date regardless of their time or place in history. A minority of the population just won't reproduce or are losers. Only because of technology that situation is somewhat more common than in the old days- where any misfits would die or be hermits. Someone like me has no game and no desire to deal with the games women play and etc. that're conductive to cheating or to face rejection, shaming, and etc. Romance isn't for me.

Short of arranged marriage, chances are I can't or won't be having children. A government should forget about trying to get everyone to have children and only incentivize the people who are able to breed or are competitive enough to be in the mating game/market or whatever.

The nature of a woman on some level, is to be hypergamous. Of course they're going to ditch a guy if they're able to get a better one later on. Men are just as disloyal but in different ways. I can't deal with such a complicated world so far as people's behaviors and motives, etc. So I just don't like most other people in general. I'm unable to trust or make myself vulnerable in any way.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

What the fuck

While I personally have not read the book, the plot itself has been described by some as akin to The Turner Diaries, but instead of Nazism, the ideology in question is a militant form of paleoconservatism. The antagonist factions in the Balkanized United States are thinly veiled straw-men of leftist political positions, which are (since this is the author's ideological wankfest) of course defeated by the "heroic" Northern Confederation.

NEET pride worldwide

Down with the oppressive work culture

I've never understood the appeal of becoming a NEET, tbh. I mean, just because I can maintain an upper middle class lifestyle on my father's money, doesn't mean that I should, y'know? But I digress.

[Fahran]

Short of arranged marriage, chances are I can't or won't be having children. A government should forget about trying to get everyone to have children and only incentivize the people who are able to breed or are competitive enough to be in the mating game/market or whatever.

Handing out incentives for hypergamy is likely to harm marriage, child-rearing, and men's well-being over all, especially in the short-term. In the long-term, it could have deleterious effects on genetic diversity due artificial population bottlenecks and the decline of women's rights and value in the sexual/romantic marketplace, to use the vulgar phrase. I think the better course of action is to socialize and integrate men who are currently feeling dejected and alienated, especially through family-based welfare and incentives, and the cultivation of sports clubs. A lot of the problem arises from a lack of social interaction generally, and most of the men I've met who don't date don't really have close male friends either. These policies should work for women as well, but I'm focusing on men because the issue seems more alarming among men.

[Benuty]

What the fuck

While I personally have not read the book, the plot itself has been described by some as akin to The Turner Diaries, but instead of Nazism, the ideology in question is a militant form of paleoconservatism. The antagonist factions in the Balkanized United States are thinly veiled straw-men of leftist political positions, which are (since this is the author's ideological wankfest) of course defeated by the "heroic" Northern Confederation.

NEET pride worldwide

Down with the oppressive work culture

I've never understood the appeal of becoming a NEET, tbh. I mean, just because I can maintain an upper middle class lifestyle on my father's money, doesn't mean that I should, y'know? But I digress.

One of the faction is what you would imagine as a hardcore lesbian political group who sterilize men, and in an effort to rid themselves of biology turn to pumping out babies via uterine replicators, and ultimately become a totalitarian transhumanist hellhole. The book is absolutely hilarious especially when crossdressers blackmail the governor of Maine.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

While I personally have not read the book, the plot itself has been described by some as akin to The Turner Diaries, but instead of Nazism, the ideology in question is a militant form of paleoconservatism. The antagonist factions in the Balkanized United States are thinly veiled straw-men of leftist political positions, which are (since this is the author's ideological wankfest) of course defeated by the "heroic" Northern Confederation.



I've never understood the appeal of becoming a NEET, tbh. I mean, just because I can maintain an upper middle class lifestyle on my father's money, doesn't mean that I should, y'know? But I digress.

One of the faction is what you would imagine as a hardcore lesbian political group who sterilize men, and in an effort to rid themselves of biology turn to pumping out babies via uterine replicators, and ultimately become a totalitarian transhumanist hellhole. The book is absolutely hilarious especially when crossdressers blackmail the governor of Maine.

It's only hilarious in that you wonder what substances Mr. Lind was on while writing the damn thing. My bet is bath salts, tbh.

[Benuty]

One of the faction is what you would imagine as a hardcore lesbian political group who sterilize men, and in an effort to rid themselves of biology turn to pumping out babies via uterine replicators, and ultimately become a totalitarian transhumanist hellhole. The book is absolutely hilarious especially when crossdressers blackmail the governor of Maine.

It's only hilarious in that you wonder what substances Mr. Lind was on while writing the damn thing. My bet is bath salts, tbh.

I think it was mainly written as a "take that" because someone shitted on an article he wrote back before the book came out.

[Saiwania]

I've never understood the appeal of becoming a NEET, tbh. I mean, just because I can maintain an upper middle class lifestyle on my father's money, doesn't mean that I should, y'know? But I digress.

It is simply because it takes much less work and effort for someone to rest on their family fortune's past laurels than for thems to put themselves out there in any meaningful way and become appealing enough for other people to like them or to go places or to get anywhere in life.

NEET status appeals to lazy people or the loser type that can't be bothered with putting in much effort or does things at a slow and easy pace, or has a lower tolerance for unpleasant situations in general. It has pros and cons like most things.

The biggest pro of being a NEET is that you have all the free time in the world and have few to no responsibilities. It's liberating to not need a day job or actually have stress/pressures/praise or criticism/etc from other people. The downside is that you're isolated from the rest of society and don't really contribute any to it, and you have no value or status, but this is arguably still often much more comfortable and better than being homeless.

[Benuty]

I've never understood the appeal of becoming a NEET, tbh. I mean, just because I can maintain an upper middle class lifestyle on my father's money, doesn't mean that I should, y'know? But I digress.

It is simply because it takes much less work and effort for someone to rest on their family fortune's past laurels than for thems to put themselves out there in any meaningful way and become appealing enough for other people to like them or to go places or to get anywhere in life.

NEET status appeals to lazy people or the loser type that can't be bothered with putting in much effort or does things at a slow and easy pace, or has a lower tolerance for unpleasant situations in general. It has pros and cons like most things.

The biggest pro of being a NEET is that you have all the free time in the world and have few to no responsibilities. It's liberating to not need a day job or actually have stress/pressures/praise or criticism/etc from other people. The downside is that you're isolated from the rest of society and don't really contribute any to it, and you have no value or status.

I will say this, the edgy feminists who sterilize themselves as an act of liberation, and get paid by the hour for sexual services at least do more than what it sounds like these people do.

[Purgatio]

I've never understood the appeal of becoming a NEET, tbh. I mean, just because I can maintain an upper middle class lifestyle on my father's money, doesn't mean that I should, y'know? But I digress.

It is simply because it takes much less work and effort for someone to rest on their family fortune's past laurels than for thems to put themselves out there in any meaningful way and become appealing enough for other people to like them or to go places or to get anywhere in life.

NEET status appeals to lazy people or the loser type that can't be bothered with putting in much effort or does things at a slow and easy pace, or has a lower tolerance for unpleasant situations in general. It has pros and cons like most things.

The biggest pro of being a NEET is that you have all the free time in the world and have few to no responsibilities. It's liberating to not need a day job or actually have stress/pressures/praise or criticism/etc from other people. The downside is that you're isolated from the rest of society and don't really contribute any to it, and you have no value or status.

How is it liberating? I genuinely cannot imagine not being in education or employment when one isn't a child, and liking it. Some people due to unfortunate circumstances end up becoming NEETs not by choice, but by choice? There just isn't any appeal.

[Benuty]

It is simply because it takes much less work and effort for someone to rest on their family fortune's past laurels than for thems to put themselves out there in any meaningful way and become appealing enough for other people to like them or to go places or to get anywhere in life.

NEET status appeals to lazy people or the loser type that can't be bothered with putting in much effort or does things at a slow and easy pace, or has a lower tolerance for unpleasant situations in general. It has pros and cons like most things.

The biggest pro of being a NEET is that you have all the free time in the world and have few to no responsibilities. It's liberating to not need a day job or actually have stress/pressures/praise or criticism/etc from other people. The downside is that you're isolated from the rest of society and don't really contribute any to it, and you have no value or status.

How is it liberating? I genuinely cannot imagine not being in education or employment when one isn't a child, and liking it. Some people due to unfortunate circumstances end up becoming NEETs not by choice, but by choice? There just isn't any appeal.

I suppose it is popular possibly because its the ultimate form of anti-life "pilling" out there. Why bother when the machine keeps on churning afterall?

[Kowani]

It is simply because it takes much less work and effort for someone to rest on their family fortune's past laurels than for thems to put themselves out there in any meaningful way and become appealing enough for other people to like them or to go places or to get anywhere in life.

NEET status appeals to lazy people or the loser type that can't be bothered with putting in much effort or does things at a slow and easy pace, or has a lower tolerance for unpleasant situations in general. It has pros and cons like most things.

The biggest pro of being a NEET is that you have all the free time in the world and have few to no responsibilities. It's liberating to not need a day job or actually have stress/pressures/praise or criticism/etc from other people. The downside is that you're isolated from the rest of society and don't really contribute any to it, and you have no value or status.

How is it liberating? I genuinely cannot imagine not being in education or employment when one isn't a child, and liking it. Some people due to unfortunate circumstances end up becoming NEETs not by choice, but by choice? There just isn't any appeal.

Some people just really like being lazy, I suppose.

[Benuty]

How is it liberating? I genuinely cannot imagine not being in education or employment when one isn't a child, and liking it. Some people due to unfortunate circumstances end up becoming NEETs not by choice, but by choice? There just isn't any appeal.

Some people just really like being lazy, I suppose.

On the plus side it will be doubly ironic if they survive while everyone else is writhing in agony, and dying of some horrid plague.

[Saiwania]

How is it liberating? I genuinely cannot imagine not being in education or employment when one isn't a child, and liking it. Some people due to unfortunate circumstances end up becoming NEETs not by choice, but by choice? There just isn't any appeal.

If you know you won't or can't qualify for a good job anyways, wouldn't you rather be able to still live in comfort but not have to really struggle to land jobs that're low paying or mimimum wage, or slave away at a place like McDonalds or Walmart? It is also not a big deal if someone just flat out doesn't care about other people and is content to use the internet for all entertainment and etc. needs.

Like most things however, it does eventually get repetitive and boring. But the NEET lifestyle sort of has a way of reinforcing itself. Once someone wants to or has to get out there, they aren't likely to do well because its too late, or their mind/abilities are stunted.

[Bear Stearns]

Now I'm imagining something like Red Dawn, but with Japan instead of the Russkies invading the United States.

I once sketched an entire alternate history where the modern day is neo 1980s with a revived Japan and everything, including an Oliver North as POTUS.

Take me back.

I once sketched an AH where the chaos of the American Civil War results in the Union government becoming a dictatorship by the time the war is over.

US Civil War also starts a global war against France and Spain.

[Saiwania]

Handing out incentives for hypergamy is likely to harm marriage, child-rearing, and men's well-being over all, especially in the short-term. In the long-term, it could have deleterious effects on genetic diversity due artificial population bottlenecks and the decline of women's rights and value in the sexual/romantic marketplace, to use the vulgar phrase. I think the better course of action is to socialize and integrate men who are currently feeling dejected and alienated, especially through family-based welfare and incentives, and the cultivation of sports clubs. A lot of the problem arises from a lack of social interaction generally, and most of the men I've met who don't date don't really have close male friends either. These policies should work for women as well, but I'm focusing on men because the issue seems more alarming among men.

Hypergamy is happening anyways. It is arguably in a woman's nature to ditch a man if they find a better man that they like more over the long term. A man that wants to keep their woman has to keep that woman's interest and etc. Some low status men can be shown the way to become more high status, but this obviously won't work for all men. Some men can only improve by so much, or are genetically predisposed to being more like a loser.

Most things that're cliche that're said about romance are actually myth or lies. There is not really such a thing as a soulmate. Even if this can describe the situation for two people who have commitment towards eachother. People are far more dynamic so far as their actual behavior goes, like the propensity for people to cheat, backstab, and etc.

[Cappuccina]

I'd subsidize families which have +3 - 5 children and provide paid maternity leave, with unpaid overtime being banned. The idea being that if workers actually receive financial security and aren't overworked, they'll pursue romance more. And with the added incentive of the state rewarding you for having babies.

Well, there are some people who just never will date regardless of their time or place in history. A minority of the population just won't reproduce or are losers. Only because of technology that situation is somewhat more common than in the old days- where any misfits would die or be hermits. Someone like me has no game and no desire to deal with the games women play and etc. that're conductive to cheating or to face rejection, shaming, and etc. Romance isn't for me.

Short of arranged marriage, chances are I can't or won't be having children. A government should forget about trying to get everyone to have children and only incentivize the people who are able to breed or are competitive enough to be in the mating game/market or whatever.

The nature of a woman on some level, is to be hypergamous. Of course they're going to ditch a guy if they're able to get a better one later on. Men are just as disloyal but in different ways. I can't deal with such a complicated world so far as people's behaviors and motives, etc. So I just don't like most other people in general. I'm unable to trust or make myself vulnerable in any way.

So now we bring in the whole manosphere propaganda.

[Fahran]

Hypergamy is happening anyways.

It's being driven by social media, cinema and over-idealization, materialism and income inequality, the degradation of the family and masculine friendships, and social isolation from one another, as well as men and women largely internalizing a lot of old stereotypes about how family life should be.

It is arguably in a woman's nature to ditch a man if they find a better man over the long term.

Depending on circumstances, but this goes for men as well. However, long-term romantic relationships and marital relationships seldom breakdown without infidelity or money-based issues coming into the equation. We can work to address those without writing them off as intrinsic to the nature of men and women. I, for one, strive towards loyalty in my long-term relationships - as do many people no doubt.

A man that wants to keep their woman has to keep that woman's interest and etc.

Yeah, picking me flowers from a meadow or coming up with a considerate/interesting date idea would do a lot more than a six-figure salary or a flashy car to keep my interest. It's not really about having money or being ripped. It's about being thoughtful, sweet, and engaging.

Some low status men can be shown the way to become more high status, but this obviously won't work for all men. Some men can only improve by so much, or are genetically predisposed to being more like a loser.

No man is a lost cause. And it's not like women don't put effort in as well.

[Saiwania]

So now we bring in the whole manosphere propaganda.

The manosphere is 100% correct about many things.

But I'd definitely agree that its bad to hate women in general. I'd contend that most men have their own faults as well. But its true that people in general aren't perfect. Both sexes broadly speaking, have undesirable behaviors that they do in dealings with one another. From their perspective, they're doing what it right for them. But from the other person's perspective, it is negative what they're experiencing.

If men and women are build differently on a social and biological and etc. level, of course there is always going to be some conflict and mismatch as a result of that. The men who're successful with women are those that know game and are really driven/goal oriented or are generally appealing all around. Women generally speaking, just need to look pretty and not be insufferable to be around in terms of behavior, attitude, or personality.

[Fahran]

Women generally speaking, just need to look pretty and not be insufferable to be around in terms of behavior, attitude, or personality.

And so her struggle began.

[Kowani]

So now we bring in the whole manosphere propaganda.

The manosphere is 100% correct about many things.

But I'd definitely agree that its bad to hate women in general. I'd contend that most men have their own faults as well. But its true that people in general aren't perfect. Both sexes broadly speaking, have undesirable behaviors that they do in dealings with one another. From their perspective, they're doing what it right for them. But from the other person's perspective, it is negative what they're experiencing.

If men and women are build differently on a social and biological and etc. level, of course there is always going to be some conflict and mismatch as a result of that. The men who're successful with women are those that know game and are really driven/goal oriented or are generally appealing all around. Women generally speaking, just need to look pretty and not be insufferable to be around in terms of behavior, attitude, or personality.

I’m going to repeat myself from the other day: Have you considered not being wrong?

[Benuty]

The manosphere is 100% correct about many things.

But I'd definitely agree that its bad to hate women in general. I'd contend that most men have their own faults as well. But its true that people in general aren't perfect. Both sexes broadly speaking, have undesirable behaviors that they do in dealings with one another. From their perspective, they're doing what it right for them. But from the other person's perspective, it is negative what they're experiencing.

If men and women are build differently on a social and biological and etc. level, of course there is always going to be some conflict and mismatch as a result of that. The men who're successful with women are those that know game and are really driven/goal oriented or are generally appealing all around. Women generally speaking, just need to look pretty and not be insufferable to be around in terms of behavior, attitude, or personality.

I’m going to repeat myself from the other day: Have you considered not being wrong?

I mean there is another option, we could end the world to save it. If a reset happens then no one will suffer the knowledge of what happened here.

[Kowani]

I’m going to repeat myself from the other day: Have you considered not being wrong?

I mean there is another option, we could end the world to save it. If a reset happens then no one will suffer the knowledge of what happened here.

How would we end the world? We’d have to throw a planet at it.
Or did you just mean humanity?

[Jolthig]

I mean there is another option, we could end the world to save it. If a reset happens then no one will suffer the knowledge of what happened here.

How would we end the world? We’d have to throw a planet at it.
Or did you just mean humanity?

*Press 1 for Nuke*

*Press 2 for a supervolanic eruption*

*Press 3 to fast forward to 5 billion years from now to a red giant sun*

[Saiwania]

The other appealing thing about NEET status is that simply put- it is almost certainly much better than actually being homeless. A ton of NEETS if they tried to go out on their own, would become homeless overnight. They're that unsuccessful. But for all the faults that NEETs have, at least it can be said that they're likely still living in relative luxury or comfort because they're leeching support off of their family.

It is a lifestyle that is like an eternal indoor vacation. Where one doesn't have to struggle. People that don't do well with life, they fall into the trap of being a NEET for a few years, if not as long as is possible for them. Eventually their family support will die off or go away.

[Purgatio]

How is it liberating? I genuinely cannot imagine not being in education or employment when one isn't a child, and liking it. Some people due to unfortunate circumstances end up becoming NEETs not by choice, but by choice? There just isn't any appeal.

I suppose it is popular possibly because its the ultimate form of anti-life "pilling" out there. Why bother when the machine keeps on churning afterall?

So its just very dark defeatism? I mean life sucks isn't really a good reason to voluntarily screw your own life even more. Just to be clear I know you're not saying you agree with the worldview, you're just surmising reasons why other people might, but likewise, I can't see the appeal or logic behind it.