Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

[Nea Byzantia]

I disagree. The original purpose was to get a piece of the pie in the Silk Road; but that doesn't exactly get the knights of Europe to sign up for your cause; introduce the Liberation of Jerusalem, a Papal Indulgence, and Let's-Lick-Those-Muslims-Over-There; and you've got yourself a devoted fighting force.

But I do agree that Islam was a threat to Europe; and you could make the argument that many of the later wars against the Ottoman Empire; striving to halt their advance into Central and Eastern Europe constitute Crusades in it of themselves.

Well whose original purpose are we talking about?
There were many different parties involved.

For the Italian banking clans sure. But they did not do it alone.

That's right, they used the Franks and Germanics as patsies.

[Novus America]

Well whose original purpose are we talking about?
There were many different parties involved.

For the Italian banking clans sure. But they did not do it alone.

That's right, they used the Franks and Germanics as patsies.

That is true.
The sad thing is the Crusades could have been good, but alas greed turned them into mass murdering mercenaries.

[Salus Maior]

I am. The gent pictured, wearing a top hat stylishly, is Bill Cutting, a nativist Prot gang-leader in the film "Gangs of New York".

Make your own conclusion.

That you're a racist and a xenophobe that adheres to a bullshit ideology?

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

I finally log on to this for the day after having a pleasant morning, and I find the borderline fetishization of atrocities/war-crimes with some thinly-veiled racist sentiment as well. I must say that, while I probably shouldn't be surprised at this, I'm somewhat disappointed in you all. Actually no, I'm very disappointed. No offense is intended, of course, but I nevertheless felt the need to express my... dismay, perhaps? Either way, I'm disheartened(?) now.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I finally log on to this for the day after having a pleasant morning, and I find the borderline fetishization of atrocities/war-crimes with some thinly-veiled racist sentiment as well. I must say that, while I probably shouldn't be surprised at this, I'm somewhat disappointed in you all. Actually no, I'm very disappointed. No offense is intended, of course, but I nevertheless felt the need to express my... dismay, perhaps? Either way, I'm disheartened(?) now.

Don't blame me, I wasn't involved.

[Fahran]

Broke: Crusaders are cool
Woke: VIVA CRISTO REY

Angry Mexican militia is cooler than chivalric knights of Christendom?

Honestly, the Cristeros did absolutely nothing wrong in opposing Calles and his attempt to dismantle the Catholic Church in Mexico. Gorostieta was a gudboi and the 1857 Constitution was the best constitution.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

I finally log on to this for the day after having a pleasant morning, and I find the borderline fetishization of atrocities/war-crimes with some thinly-veiled racist sentiment as well. I must say that, while I probably shouldn't be surprised at this, I'm somewhat disappointed in you all. Actually no, I'm very disappointed. No offense is intended, of course, but I nevertheless felt the need to express my... dismay, perhaps? Either way, I'm disheartened(?) now.

Don't blame me, I wasn't involved.

My apologies if I painted you in an unfair light (is that the phrase, btw). I was trying not to name names in the interests of civility.

[Benuty]

I have no idea why representative Tlaib is surprised about Israel. Her ethnicity is treated by the Israelis, and Arabs as syphilis. At least the Saudi’s have to care when one of their slaves from abroad threatens to jump from a hotel over severe employer abuse (because it looks bad).

[Fahran]

I have no idea why representative Tlaib is surprised about Israel. Her ethnicity is treated by the Israelis, and Arabs as syphilis. At least the Saudi’s have to care when one of their slaves from abroad threatens to jump from a hotel over severe employer abuse (because it looks bad).

I'd be a lot more likely to take Tlaib's side if she wasn't openly rubbing shoulders with publishers of blood libel. As far as I'm concerned, she deserved the ban she got, and it has nothing to do with Israelis disliking Palestinians. It has everything to do with her empowering people who want to ethnically cleanse Jews and who peddle Antisemitic canards.

Source.

[Benuty]

I have no idea why representative Tlaib is surprised about Israel. Her ethnicity is treated by the Israelis, and Arabs as syphilis. At least the Saudi’s have to care when one of their slaves from abroad threatens to jump from a hotel over severe employer abuse (because it looks bad).

I'd be a lot more likely to take Tlaib's side if she wasn't openly rubbing shoulders with publishers of blood libel. As far as I'm concerned, she deserved the ban she got, and it has nothing to do with Israelis disliking Palestinians. It has everything to do with her empowering people who want to ethnically cleanse Jews and who peddle Antisemitic canards.

Source.

I would say it has a bit to do with it. The Palestinians are essentially upjumps who can’t figure out how their pathetic excuse of a nation will die faster. Whether it’s by the water running out or becoming too polluted to drink or by angry Israelis bombing the hell of them for launching attacks that end up killing people. The Arabs play the Palestinian sympathy card, but at the end of the day treat them no better than a syphilitic prostitute begging a mob boss for money to get treatment when it’s too late.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I have no idea why representative Tlaib is surprised about Israel. Her ethnicity is treated by the Israelis, and Arabs as syphilis. At least the Saudi’s have to care when one of their slaves from abroad threatens to jump from a hotel over severe employer abuse (because it looks bad).

I'd be a lot more likely to take Tlaib's side if she wasn't openly rubbing shoulders with publishers of blood libel. As far as I'm concerned, she deserved the ban she got, and it has nothing to do with Israelis disliking Palestinians. It has everything to do with her empowering people who want to ethnically cleanse Jews and who peddle Antisemitic canards.

Source.

I'd take claims of wanting to ethnically cleanse Jews more seriously if Israel weren't ethnically cleansing the occupied territories.

[Salus Maior]

Angry Mexican militia is cooler than chivalric knights of Christendom?

Honestly, the Cristeros did absolutely nothing wrong in opposing Calles and his attempt to dismantle the Catholic Church in Mexico. Gorostieta was a gudboi and the 1857 Constitution was the best constitution.

Yes, I'm not saying they did wrong. I think that the Cristeros were a force for good.

But they're not as cool as medieval Knights is what I'm saying

[Novus America]

I'd be a lot more likely to take Tlaib's side if she wasn't openly rubbing shoulders with publishers of blood libel. As far as I'm concerned, she deserved the ban she got, and it has nothing to do with Israelis disliking Palestinians. It has everything to do with her empowering people who want to ethnically cleanse Jews and who peddle Antisemitic canards.

Source.

I would say it has a bit to do with it. The Palestinians are essentially upjumps who can’t figure out how their pathetic excuse of a nation will die faster. Whether it’s by the water running out or becoming too polluted to drink or by angry Israelis bombing the hell of them for launching attacks that end up killing people. The Arabs play the Palestinian sympathy card, but at the end of the day treat them no better than a syphilitic prostitute begging a mob boss for money to get treatment when it’s too late.

The biggest harm to the Palestinian Arab cause is unfortunately the atrocious conduct of many Palestinian Arabs.

For example in Gaza they actually elected Hamas, despite knowing this meant eternal warfare, brutal theocracy and economic ruin.

The majority (not all, I do feel bad for those that did not) votes for collective suicide.

[Salus Maior]

I finally log on to this for the day after having a pleasant morning, and I find the borderline fetishization of atrocities/war-crimes with some thinly-veiled racist sentiment as well. I must say that, while I probably shouldn't be surprised at this, I'm somewhat disappointed in you all. Actually no, I'm very disappointed. No offense is intended, of course, but I nevertheless felt the need to express my... dismay, perhaps? Either way, I'm disheartened(?) now.

You're feeling what I'm feeling then.

[Benuty]

I'd be a lot more likely to take Tlaib's side if she wasn't openly rubbing shoulders with publishers of blood libel. As far as I'm concerned, she deserved the ban she got, and it has nothing to do with Israelis disliking Palestinians. It has everything to do with her empowering people who want to ethnically cleanse Jews and who peddle Antisemitic canards.

Source.

I'd take claims of wanting to ethnically cleanse Jews more seriously if Israel weren't ethnically cleansing the occupied territories.

Well it’s not like the Palestinians haven’t embraced the anti Semitic chics funding their exploits to remain continuously in a position of opposition to Jews. Of course the one thing that at least the Egyptians, and other nations surrounding Israel realize is they know the damn people can fight.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I would say it has a bit to do with it. The Palestinians are essentially upjumps who can’t figure out how their pathetic excuse of a nation will die faster. Whether it’s by the water running out or becoming too polluted to drink or by angry Israelis bombing the hell of them for launching attacks that end up killing people. The Arabs play the Palestinian sympathy card, but at the end of the day treat them no better than a syphilitic prostitute begging a mob boss for money to get treatment when it’s too late.

The biggest harm to the Palestinian Arab cause is unfortunately the atrocious conduct of many Palestinian Arabs.

For example in Gaza they actually elected Hamas, despite knowing this meant eternal warfare, brutal theocracy and economic ruin.

The majority (not all, I do feel bad for those that did not) votes for collective suicide.

Israel has been violating the Oslo Accords and not giving credence to the peace process for decades before Hamas gained power.

[Nea Byzantia]

That's right, they used the Franks and Germanics as patsies.

That is true.
The sad thing is the Crusades could have been good, but alas greed turned them into mass murdering mercenaries.

It was about Money and Power from the beginning, how was it supposed to end well?

[Nea Byzantia]

The biggest harm to the Palestinian Arab cause is unfortunately the atrocious conduct of many Palestinian Arabs.

For example in Gaza they actually elected Hamas, despite knowing this meant eternal warfare, brutal theocracy and economic ruin.

The majority (not all, I do feel bad for those that did not) votes for collective suicide.

Israel has been violating the Oslo Accords and not giving credence to the peace process for decades before Hamas gained power.

Almost like Israel's actions caused the ascendancy of Hamas.

[Fahran]

I would say it has a bit to do with it. The Palestinians are essentially upjumps who can’t figure out how their pathetic excuse of a nation will die faster. Whether it’s by the water running out or becoming too polluted to drink or by angry Israelis bombing the hell of them for launching attacks that end up killing people. The Arabs play the Palestinian sympathy card, but at the end of the day treat them no better than a syphilitic prostitute begging a mob boss for money to get treatment when it’s too late.

I don't think you're giving the Palestinians enough credit here. I view them about as sympathetically as I view the Kurds, the Catalans, or any other secessionist/nationalist group. I believe they have a right to their own nation-state and to basic human dignity, and I believe that, providing they can come to an accord with the Israelis, they'll produce a state that's par for the course when it comes to stability in the Arab world. The issue is that the Israelis and Palestinians can't really agree on where they want the border to be.

[Novus America]

That is true.
The sad thing is the Crusades could have been good, but alas greed turned them into mass murdering mercenaries.

It was about Money and Power from the beginning, how was it supposed to end well?

It was not about money and power for most people at the beginning though.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Israel has been violating the Oslo Accords and not giving credence to the peace process for decades before Hamas gained power.

Almost like Israel's actions caused the ascendancy of Hamas.

Yup. Israel wasn't honoring the spirit of the peace process even during the negotiations themselves. Negotiating with the PLO is a public relations stunt.

[Nea Byzantia]

It was about Money and Power from the beginning, how was it supposed to end well?

It was not about money and power for most people at the beginning though.

Not for the grunts sent to die. It never is for them. Usually they're motives are more altruistic and emotional.

[Novus America]

Israel has been violating the Oslo Accords and not giving credence to the peace process for decades before Hamas gained power.

Almost like Israel's actions caused the ascendancy of Hamas.

Oh they certainly helped. Israel is hardly innocent.

But that does not excuse Hamas or those that voted for them.

[United Muscovite Nations]

It was about Money and Power from the beginning, how was it supposed to end well?

It was not about money and power for most people at the beginning though.

^ I'm not even sure we should say it was about that for the powerful at the beginning. I've said before I really don't like ascribing cynical motives to people.

[Nea Byzantia]

Almost like Israel's actions caused the ascendancy of Hamas.

Oh they certainly helped. Israel is hardly innocent.

But that does not excuse Hamas or those that voted for them.

It didn't, it motivated.