Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVII: The Snark Enlightenment

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd rather be living under someone who took power by force than under a monarchy, personally. At least the first guy knows how to do something. You wouldn't vote for an inbred, sheltered, useless politician who knew nothing about actual life in his country, so why would you do that with a monarchy?

Personally I dislike the idea of being ruled by a power-hungry tyrant who is beholden to no law.

In more than a few examples monarchs are exactly that.

[Locus Praemonstratus]

This was a very unfortunate step in past historiography. When people look to antiquity, it is probably more accurate that we owe more to the Middle Ages.

I’m not saying that it’s good historiography (although I still wouldn’t want to live there), I’m merely commentating on public perception.

Of course, I was just say that that was unfortunate.

This was a very unfortunate step in past historiography. When people look to antiquity, it is probably more accurate that we owe more to the Middle Ages.

Out of curiosity what do we owe to the middle ages?

That’s a lot to go over. To summarise: a lot of philosophy, and though some are largely inclined to dismiss philosophy and theology these days, where’d we be without seminal works like William of Ockham’s Sum of Logic (don’t tell anyone I said anything nice about William!)? Small and big things, eyeglasses and the printing press. The modern university system and education in general, as much as I loathe most of it today. A lot of concepts ingrained into us are the result of those distant schoolmen. Legal codes, everything, cities, architecture, art and literature, culture, etc., etc.. As much as the contemporary world despises it, we can’t get rid of the Middle Ages from ourselves anymore than the Middle Ages could get rid of (in contrast) its much loved antiquity.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Out of curiosity what do we owe to the middle ages?

A lot actually. Universities, printing, Western music, etc. One can hardly forget the Magna Carta, or town charters. I think our understanding of constitutions is heavily influenced by medieval history.

Fair enough.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

I’m not saying that it’s good historiography (although I still wouldn’t want to live there), I’m merely commentating on public perception.

Of course, I was just say that that was unfortunate.

Out of curiosity what do we owe to the middle ages?

That’s a lot to go over. To summarise: a lot of philosophy, and though some are largely inclined to dismiss philosophy and theology these days, where’d we be without seminal works like William of Ockham’s Sum of Logic (don’t tell anyone I said anything nice about William!)? Small and big things, eyeglasses and the printing press. The modern university system and education in general, as much as I loathe most of it today. A lot of concepts ingrained into us are the result of those distant schoolmen. Legal codes, everything, cities, architecture, art and literature, culture, etc., etc.. As much as the contemporary world despises it, we can’t get rid of the Middle Ages from ourselves anymore than the Middle Ages could get rid of (in contrast) its much loved antiquity.

A lot of Middle Age philosophy was good, but when it was good, it largely came from women and Muslims.

[Totally Not OEP]

Tangentially related to this: whats your view on the Imjin War?

It was a total disaster, and I think that was the main reason that Hideyoshi launched a war that he probably knew he couldn't win. He wasn't a noble by birth, his parents had been peasants, and he had rose through the ranks but could never fully reach the rank of shōgun because of that. His power was something he could only claim because he had the force of arms, and if someone else proved stronger, he'd be undone. Weakening the daimyo by throwing them into an unwinnable war was in his best interest.

I'm fond of Hideyoshi, but this is one of the things that leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Not sure if you remember it or not, but this was kinda the long term gist of why I brought up the Tondo Conspiracy awhile back; three fourths of Chinese silver came from Japan and the rest from the Spanish Americas via Manilla. Had the Spanish been overthrown, China would've been destabilized when the Japanese launch themselves into Korea due to lack of silver.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

A lot of Middle Age philosophy was good, but when it was good, it largely came from women and Muslims.

Are you all right? First, you accuse OT of supporting a tyrannical monarch when he's Anglican, and then you say this.

[Hanafuridake]

I'd rather be living under someone who took power by force than under a monarchy, personally. At least the first guy knows how to do something. You wouldn't vote for an inbred, sheltered, useless politician who knew nothing about actual life in his country, so why would you do that with a monarchy?

Tsar Nicholas > Stalin
Kaiser Wilhelm > Hitler
Norodom Sihanouk > Pol Pot

I'm sure that I can find even more examples.

[Locus Praemonstratus]

Of course, I was just say that that was unfortunate.

That’s a lot to go over. To summarise: a lot of philosophy, and though some are largely inclined to dismiss philosophy and theology these days, where’d we be without seminal works like William of Ockham’s Sum of Logic (don’t tell anyone I said anything nice about William!)? Small and big things, eyeglasses and the printing press. The modern university system and education in general, as much as I loathe most of it today. A lot of concepts ingrained into us are the result of those distant schoolmen. Legal codes, everything, cities, architecture, art and literature, culture, etc., etc.. As much as the contemporary world despises it, we can’t get rid of the Middle Ages from ourselves anymore than the Middle Ages could get rid of (in contrast) its much loved antiquity.

A lot of Middle Age philosophy was good, but when it was good, it largely came from women and Muslims.

You are no good authority on this, Mr. ‘Jean Paul Sartre’. Am I meant to take this seriously? *scoffs*

[Totally Not OEP]

I'd rather be living under someone who took power by force than under a monarchy, personally. At least the first guy knows how to do something. You wouldn't vote for an inbred, sheltered, useless politician who knew nothing about actual life in his country, so why would you do that with a monarchy?

Tsar Nicholas > Stalin
Kaiser Wilhelm > Hitler
Norodom Sihanouk > Pol Pot

I'm sure that I can find even more examples.

This is accurate 100%

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

A lot of Middle Age philosophy was good, but when it was good, it largely came from women and Muslims.

Are you all right? First, you accuse OT of supporting a tyrannical monarch when he's Anglican, and then you say this.

I mean, I’ve been dead inside for years.

[Old Tyrannia]

Personally I dislike the idea of being ruled by a power-hungry tyrant who is beholden to no law.

Said the anglican monarchist

Queen Elizabeth II is of course known for her ravenous bloodlust.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

A lot of Middle Age philosophy was good, but when it was good, it largely came from women and Muslims.

Are you all right? -snip-

I can't speak for her, but I'm in a somewhat uneasy state at the moment. I begin university in about a week and a half, and it's... like...

Fuck, the proper words elude me, and any facade of eloquence I put up is peeled away...

[Kowani]

I'd rather be living under someone who took power by force than under a monarchy, personally. At least the first guy knows how to do something. You wouldn't vote for an inbred, sheltered, useless politician who knew nothing about actual life in his country, so why would you do that with a monarchy?

Tsar Nicholas > Stalin
Kaiser Wilhelm > Hitler
Norodom Sihanouk > Pol Pot

I'm sure that I can find even more examples.

I don’t know about Pol Pot’s case, but the incompetence and incapability of the Tsar and Kaiser directly led to the mass murdering maniacs.

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

Said the anglican monarchist

Queen Elizabeth II is of course known for her ravenous bloodlust.

Btw, do you think she'll dissolve Parliament? Just wondering, since I've heard talk of it from a few of my acquaintances.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

A lot of Middle Age philosophy was good, but when it was good, it largely came from women and Muslims.

You are no good authority on this, Mr. ‘Jean Paul Sartre’. Am I meant to take this seriously?

I’m not claiming to be an authority on this, lol. Just stating my opinion that Catholic “philosophy” is overrated, and that the parts of it that aren’t are from the mystics and the Arab world.

[Nakena]

Said the anglican monarchist

Queen Elizabeth II is of course known for her ravenous bloodlust.

The founder of the Anglican Church was a different level though. And lets admit, he didn do too bad for England.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Said the anglican monarchist

Queen Elizabeth II is of course known for her ravenous bloodlust.

You’re an apologist for Henry VIII, aren’t you?

[Hanafuridake]

Tsar Nicholas > Stalin
Kaiser Wilhelm > Hitler
Norodom Sihanouk > Pol Pot

I'm sure that I can find even more examples.

This is accurate 100%

You were supposed to destroy the Catholics, not join them.

Buddhists get special treatment in the Margraviate of the Upper Midwest as long as they agree to bully hippies and weebs.

Good luck trying to get the Pure Landers and the Nichirenists to sit down together and talk out the terms.

[Torrocca]

The United States is not capable of annexing China. You'll just end up sending millions of young Americans into the biggest meatgrinder since Operation Barbarossa.

Fighting communism is always a worthy cause tbh

Imagine unironically thinking that killing millions of people stuck under the repressions of an authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement and getting millions of people killed fighting the soldiers of that authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement is a worthy cause.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Fighting communism is always a worthy cause tbh

Imagine unironically thinking that killing millions of people stuck under the repressions of an authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement and getting millions of people killed fighting the soldiers of that authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement is a worthy cause.

“It wasn’t real communism”

[Hanafuridake]

Tsar Nicholas > Stalin
Kaiser Wilhelm > Hitler
Norodom Sihanouk > Pol Pot

I'm sure that I can find even more examples.

I don’t know about Pol Pot’s case, but the incompetence and incapability of the Tsar and Kaiser directly led to the mass murdering maniacs.

Nicholas wasn't incompetent so much as he wasn't prepared for the job. His father died when he was young and his uncle told him he would rather shoot himself than be Tsar. It's not liberal republics haven't experienced similar problems in the past. And blaming Wilhelm for Hitler's rise is pretty rich when he was aided and abetted by members of the Weimar Republican government as well as the refusal of the French and British to confront him.

[Kowani]

Imagine unironically thinking that killing millions of people stuck under the repressions of an authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement and getting millions of people killed fighting the soldiers of that authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement is a worthy cause.

“It wasn’t real communism”

The consistent failure of Communism to erect “True Communism” is a mark against the system, imo.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Fighting communism is always a worthy cause tbh

Imagine unironically thinking that killing millions of people stuck under the repressions of an authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement and getting millions of people killed fighting the soldiers of that authoritarian Capitalist regime masquerading as a Communist movement is a worthy cause.

We should crush the Zapatistas too don't worry.

[Locus Praemonstratus]

You are no good authority on this, Mr. ‘Jean Paul Sartre’. Am I meant to take this seriously?

I’m not claiming to be an authority on this, lol. Just stating my opinion that Catholic “philosophy” is overrated, and that the parts of it that aren’t are from the mystics and the Arab world.

This is foremost jest, but I can’t take that seriously if the person (1) stans (for a lack of a better word) for Jean Paul Sartre, a bloviated sophist, and (2) is so blatantly wrong. Catholic philosophers consistently crapped on Muslim philosophers like Averroes before the Muslims did it themselves. I will protect the honour of the Middle Ages to the death, bruz.

[Totally Not OEP]

Are you all right? First, you accuse OT of supporting a tyrannical monarch when he's Anglican, and then you say this.

I mean, I’ve been dead inside for years.

Is this a joke or actually serious?