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by Salus Maior » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:36 pm
by Duvniask » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:37 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Duvniask wrote:Some of which comes from secularization and religion playing less and less of a role in daily life, not because Christianity is somehow better, really. A while back, these things were more or less just as common in the Christian World.
It's almost as if Christianity modernized and Islam didn't.And it doesn't address the issue at hand, which is that Christians adhere to a book that condones genocide. The question I was responding to was asking why Christians should abandon the Old Testament; my response being that it is explicitly genocidal.
If they're not committing genocide then I don't see what the issue is. The OT is an important part of Christianity, so unless you expect them to erase half the Bible they're not going to abandon it completely.
Salus Maior wrote:Duvniask wrote:I was referring to the Bible as a whole in that sentence.
And regardless, you're gonna come out in favor of genocidal scripture. That's all anyone needs to know.
So your statement is even less accurate.
It's not even something we practice, obviously. It's in the Bible because the foundation of ancient Israel and it's myths and history is an important part of understanding what is meant in the New Testament when it is said there is a "New Israel" (the Church). The Biblical canon is the way it is because it's important to understanding doctrine and dogma and the themes of the New Testament.
by Diopolis » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:37 pm
Let me cry because we avoided children being born to addicts and also avoided having to take them and put them up for adoption... Oh wait...
Since I am completely against abortion but I live in a country where I see people living in the streets with children, you don't leave realpolitik with much options. Are we going to pay endless welfare checks?
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:37 pm
by Jack Thomas Lang » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:37 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Huge fan of credit unions (I'm actually a member of one). Great way to lock money away and profit off of high margin microlending. Very secure too.
Online banks? That will be all banks in about 15 years.
by Temple State » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:37 pm
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:39 pm
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:Huge fan of credit unions (I'm actually a member of one). Great way to lock money away and profit off of high margin microlending. Very secure too.
Online banks? That will be all banks in about 15 years.
That's good to hear. Might do a mix of both, keep most of my money in a credit union, plonk a sum of money in a high-interest bank account and let it grow. Put some money into an index fund and hopefully, that'll make for a financially secure combination.
by Temple State » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:39 pm
Diopolis wrote:Temple State wrote:
Too bad. At least I am not Nancy Pelosi or similar vehement scum.
You are exactly like Nancy Pelosi, just in a different direction.Let me cry because we avoided children being born to addicts and also avoided having to take them and put them up for adoption... Oh wait...
Since I am completely against abortion but I live in a country where I see people living in the streets with children, you don't leave realpolitik with much options. Are we going to pay endless welfare checks?
No. We are going to reform society such that single motherhood is much rarer.
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:40 pm
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:41 pm
by Nakena » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:41 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Start putting money away as early as possible and live within your means - those are the two simplest rules to securing financial freedom, and arguably the most difficult to master.
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:42 pm
by Diopolis » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:43 pm
Temple State wrote:Diopolis wrote:You are exactly like Nancy Pelosi, just in a different direction.
No. We are going to reform society such that single motherhood is much rarer.
Tell me how. Even when mothers are not single there will still be people who will have kids just to collect welfare. Or you won't have welfare, like here, and they will be living in the streets, the entire happy family united.
Sterilizing people and kiling kids are not even remotely the same thing in moral terms.
by Temple State » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:43 pm
by Crysuko » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:44 pm
by Temple State » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:44 pm
Diopolis wrote:Temple State wrote:
Tell me how. Even when mothers are not single there will still be people who will have kids just to collect welfare. Or you won't have welfare, like here, and they will be living in the streets, the entire happy family united.
Sterilizing people and kiling kids are not even remotely the same thing in moral terms.
The solution to that is to change the welfare system so that it encourages stable two-parent nuclear families, which are overwhelmingly likely to transition into financial independence, as opposed to single motherhood, which is overwhelmingly unlikely. It's not to start sterilizing blue collar workers- anyone who tries to sterilize me's gettin' a proper Texas response.
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:44 pm
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:45 pm
by Salus Maior » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:46 pm
Duvniask wrote:
It's not something you practice, but this is your scripture. If this is the correct telling of events, it means your God is genocidal. In any case, whether is accurate or not, it means the Bible contains multiple instances of God being explicitly portrayed as calling for genocide. If you don't understand why this sets a dangerous precedent for your faith, then there's no reason to take you seriously.
by Bear Stearns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:46 pm
Nakena wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
Venice wasn't a huge bank. It was a merchant republic.
I am reading currently The Medici: A Tale of Fifteen Generations by James Cleugh, really makes you appriciate italian renaissance. Florentine history is very interesting.Bear Stearns wrote:Start putting money away as early as possible and live within your means - those are the two simplest rules to securing financial freedom, and arguably the most difficult to master.
Thats unironically what I have always been done to begin with.
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