What is your gender?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

So far, only 13% of poll participants are female. Wow. We really are a small group in this site. Or at least in General.

[Dark Moon Magocracy]

Well, I have a skirt.

Because you decided to wear a skirt and or someone else dressed you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdhBTYPhDg

[The Great-German Empire]

I am male.

[Heloin]

So far, only 13% of poll participants are female. Wow. We really are a small group in this site. Or at least in General.

Girl power unite!

[Ayissor]

So far, only 13% of poll participants are female. Wow. We really are a small group in this site. Or at least in General.

Girl power unite!

But, we're outnumbered!

[SD_Film Artists]

I've known women talking on the subject to say- "I'm a women down to the cells in my finger, it's not a male finger or a gender-neutral finger, it's a woman's finger because I'm a woman".

Well, yes, it's a finger that belongs to a woman. But if you cut it off and grafted it onto a man, it wouldn't still be a woman's finger. So it doesn't have an embedded gender value (sorry about the computer metaphor, that's what's on my mind right now), unlike a brain.

That's exactly the point- if you grafted the finger onto a man then it would be a man's hand with a female finger attached to it. When you hold your girlfriend's hand you're not holding a hand which happens to be linked to a vagina, you're holding a female hand even if they don't have any nail varnish or other makeup.

[Cekoviu]

Well, yes, it's a finger that belongs to a woman. But if you cut it off and grafted it onto a man, it wouldn't still be a woman's finger. So it doesn't have an embedded gender value (sorry about the computer metaphor, that's what's on my mind right now), unlike a brain.

That's exactly the point- if you grafted the finger onto a man then it would be a man's hand with a female finger attached to it. When you hold your girlfriend's hand you're not holding a hand which happens to be linked to a vagina, you're holding a female hand even if they don't have any nail varnish or other makeup.

Noo, that's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying. A hand can't be male or female, but it can belong to someone that is male or female.

[SD_Film Artists]

So far, only 13% of poll participants are female. Wow. We really are a small group in this site. Or at least in General.

I thought that there would be a higher proportion of females considering that half the members in my old region were married couples (both husband and wife playing), so 25% female. But still 13% is high for a gaming forum where some are more like 98% male.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

So far, only 13% of poll participants are female. Wow. We really are a small group in this site. Or at least in General.

I thought that there would be a higher proportion of females considering that half the members in my old region were married couples (both husband and wife playing), so 25% female. But still 13% is high for a gaming forum where some are more like 98% male.

It’s up to 15% now. I really thought there were more, but I guess you’re right.

[SD_Film Artists]

That's exactly the point- if you grafted the finger onto a man then it would be a man's hand with a female finger attached to it. When you hold your girlfriend's hand you're not holding a hand which happens to be linked to a vagina, you're holding a female hand even if they don't have any nail varnish or other makeup.

Noo, that's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying. A hand can't be male or female, but it can belong to someone that is male or female.

I mean that's what I was originally explaining rather than it being a matter of posessive grammar. It's female by being born female, otherwise you're basically saying that the only difference between the sexes is sexual organs. And note that by 'female' I mean sex, not necessarily gender.

[Cekoviu]

Noo, that's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying. A hand can't be male or female, but it can belong to someone that is male or female.

I mean that's what I was originally explaining rather than it being a matter of posessive grammar. It's female by being born female, otherwise you're basically saying that the only difference between the sexes is sexual organs. And note that by 'female' I mean sex, not necessarily gender.

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. But what I am saying is that fingers, toenails, etc. are not issues tied to either sex or gender. There is not a clear cutoff point for sex anyway, so there would be no aspect that does not have cross-pollination in some way. If you are speaking solely about assigned sex at birth, then the only difference would be genitalia.

[Exxosia]

I think male, but most of my secondary sexual characteristics fell off back in the 1300's.

[SD_Film Artists]

I mean that's what I was originally explaining rather than it being a matter of posessive grammar. It's female by being born female, otherwise you're basically saying that the only difference between the sexes is sexual organs. And note that by 'female' I mean sex, not necessarily gender.

No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

I know, I mean that's what I was originally explaining rather than it being a matter of posessive grammar.

But what I am saying is that fingers, toenails, etc. are not issues tied to either sex or gender. There is not a clear cutoff point for sex anyway, so there would be no aspect that does not have cross-pollination in some way. If you are speaking solely about assigned sex at birth, then the only difference would be genitalia.

Archaeologists and doctors are able to accuratly apply a sex to a skeleton, and as mentioned before women and men have many subtle differences in their weakness or resistance to various diseases. It's not just a case of placing sexual organs onto an otherwise neutral human.

[Cekoviu]

No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

I know, I mean that's what I was originally explaining rather than it being a matter of posessive grammar.

I was addressing "otherwise you're basically saying that the only difference between the sexes is sexual organs."

But what I am saying is that fingers, toenails, etc. are not issues tied to either sex or gender. There is not a clear cutoff point for sex anyway, so there would be no aspect that does not have cross-pollination in some way. If you are speaking solely about assigned sex at birth, then the only difference would be genitalia.

Archaeologists and doctors are able to accuratly apply a sex to a skeleton, and as mentioned before women and men have many subtle differences in their weakness or resistance to various diseases. It's not just a case of placing sexual organs onto an otherwise neutral human.

Those are factors influenced by sex, but not exclusive to a particular sex in the vast majority of cases. Therefore, they are not inherently sexed, and that's why your argument doesn't work. It just doesn't address the variation and nuance of human populations.

[SD_Film Artists]

I know, I mean that's what I was originally explaining rather than it being a matter of posessive grammar.

I was addressing "otherwise you're basically saying that the only difference between the sexes is sexual organs."

Archaeologists and doctors are able to accuratly apply a sex to a skeleton, and as mentioned before women and men have many subtle differences in their weakness or resistance to various diseases. It's not just a case of placing sexual organs onto an otherwise neutral human.

Those are factors influenced by sex, but not exclusive to a particular sex in the vast majority of cases. Therefore, they are not inherently sexed, and that's why your argument doesn't work. It just doesn't address the variation and nuance of human populations.

I never said it was exlusive to males or females. I mean that different diseases have different chances of likelyhood based on sex even if the disease doesn't have any direct link to sexual organs. For example fibromyalgia effects 7 times as many women as men.

[Cekoviu]

I was addressing "otherwise you're basically saying that the only difference between the sexes is sexual organs."

Those are factors influenced by sex, but not exclusive to a particular sex in the vast majority of cases. Therefore, they are not inherently sexed, and that's why your argument doesn't work. It just doesn't address the variation and nuance of human populations.

I never said it was exlusive to males or females. I mean that different diseases have different chances of likelyhood based on sex even if the disease doesn't have any direct link to sexual organs. For example fibromyalgia effects 7 times as many women as men.

Yeah, and fibromyalgia isn't a women's disease because of that. All that one can say given that statistic is that women are much more likely to get it, and it's atypical for a man to get it.

[Lanorth]

Male.

[SD_Film Artists]

I never said it was exlusive to males or females. I mean that different diseases have different chances of likelyhood based on sex even if the disease doesn't have any direct link to sexual organs. For example fibromyalgia effects 7 times as many women as men.

Yeah, and fibromyalgia isn't a women's disease because of that. All that one can say given that statistic is that women are much more likely to get it, and it's atypical for a man to get it.

Again, I never said that it was 100% exclusive to women. My point was that biological sex makes a difference even to things that aren't related to sexual organs. Thus you can't just get a 'neutral human' and slap a sexual organ onto it and call it a male or female. It's more complex than that.

[Pacomia]

So far, only 13% of poll participants are female. Wow. We really are a small group in this site. Or at least in General.

I thought that there would be a higher proportion of females considering that half the members in my old region were married couples (both husband and wife playing), so 25% female. But still 13% is high for a gaming forum where some are more like 98% male.

I'm subscribed to a few YouTube channels that do viewer polls every now and then. On the gender question, it always comes back as 96% male and up. 13% is a lot.

[Pacomia]

I think male, but most of my secondary sexual characteristics fell off back in the 1300's.

My gender is burning witches?

[Cekoviu]

Yeah, and fibromyalgia isn't a women's disease because of that. All that one can say given that statistic is that women are much more likely to get it, and it's atypical for a man to get it.

Again, I never said that it was 100% exclusive to women. My point was that biological sex makes a difference even to things that aren't related to sexual organs. Thus you can't just get a 'neutral human' and slap a sexual organ onto it and call it a male or female. It's more complex than that.

I think you're still arguing against a strawman and it's not very useful or productive.

[Alvecia]

If asked I'd say I'm a bloke. So since you're asking, I'm a bloke.

[SD_Film Artists]

I thought that there would be a higher proportion of females considering that half the members in my old region were married couples (both husband and wife playing), so 25% female. But still 13% is high for a gaming forum where some are more like 98% male.

I'm subscribed to a few YouTube channels that do viewer polls every now and then. On the gender question, it always comes back as 96% male and up. 13% is a lot.

Yup, it's rather sad how motorcycle channels are about 5% female and gaming forums are 2%. Though the male riders/players don't always help that case by immediately trying to flirt with anything with matching chromosomes.

[Abercontin-Jereaux]

I'm a girl. I guess we don't have that much women...

[SD_Film Artists]

Again, I never said that it was 100% exclusive to women. My point was that biological sex makes a difference even to things that aren't related to sexual organs. Thus you can't just get a 'neutral human' and slap a sexual organ onto it and call it a male or female. It's more complex than that.

I think you're still arguing against a strawman and it's not very useful or productive.

I think you were saying that "If you are speaking solely about assigned sex at birth, then the only difference would be genitalia." That kind of implies that genitalia is the only difference between men and women's biological sex. I've given examples of why that's untrue.