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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:29 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:That's hilarious...Imagine what you could accomplish while sober...


He just trolled a few people on an obscure internet forum, why are you acting like he accomplished something significant.

Quite a few people.

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Katganistan
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Communism is the perfect anti-state ideology, my duderino.

Communism is bloody unattainable. It’s utopia. A stateless society will never happen


It only works on a very small scale -- communes, for example. When you and your neighbors decide to live collectively and can see the benefits of sharing skills and products with each other, it works.

When imposed from above with leaders who live in luxury while everyone else toils in poverty, not so much.

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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:35 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
He just trolled a few people on an obscure internet forum, why are you acting like he accomplished something significant.

Quite a few people.


Not that many, this forum has become really depleted compared to the 2014 - 2017 days.

It's pretty sad to see something with so little effort lauded like it's some grand Machiavellian strategy. But that's what the far-right has been reduced to anymore anyway.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:50 am

Katganistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Communism is bloody unattainable. It’s utopia. A stateless society will never happen


It only works on a very small scale -- communes, for example. When you and your neighbors decide to live collectively and can see the benefits of sharing skills and products with each other, it works.

On a state level it'd only really be workable as a collection of hundreds if not thousands of communes that are loosely aligned under a banner. But I don't see that kind of thing happening any time soon.
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Katganistan
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:14 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
It only works on a very small scale -- communes, for example. When you and your neighbors decide to live collectively and can see the benefits of sharing skills and products with each other, it works.

On a state level it'd only really be workable as a collection of hundreds if not thousands of communes that are loosely aligned under a banner. But I don't see that kind of thing happening any time soon.

Nor I. I think it's pretty much unattainable as there is too much chance for abuse on the one side and too much '"why should I pay for $fill in the blank" on the other.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:22 am

Katganistan wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:On a state level it'd only really be workable as a collection of hundreds if not thousands of communes that are loosely aligned under a banner. But I don't see that kind of thing happening any time soon.

Nor I. I think it's pretty much unattainable as there is too much chance for abuse on the one side and too much '"why should I pay for $fill in the blank" on the other.

Or someone comes up with a great idea, and rightfully wants credit for it.

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Katganistan
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:04 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Nor I. I think it's pretty much unattainable as there is too much chance for abuse on the one side and too much '"why should I pay for $fill in the blank" on the other.

Or someone comes up with a great idea, and rightfully wants credit for it.


Would you mind clarifying? I'm not following how this relates to what NCR and I were discussing.

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:06 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Clean up in aisle three please. It seems the beans have been spilled.


Felt it needed to be explained after I saw Torrocca and others speculating it's all a giant Nazi dog whistle. It's literally what WRA has been saying in that it is just a symbol of Anti-Bolshevism we decided to adopt as a result of a drunk convo; take it at face value, folks.


But it has now become an beast that you, the creators, can no longer control. The meme has become feral, spreading and mutating on its own.

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Cappuccina
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Postby Cappuccina » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:12 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:Quite a few people.


Not that many, this forum has become really depleted compared to the 2014 - 2017 days.

It's pretty sad to see something with so little effort lauded like it's some grand Machiavellian strategy. But that's what the far-right has been reduced to anymore anyway.

It's just some fun some pals thought up, it's literally nothing more. The posters here have made it out to be something it isn't. Pretty funny that people place so much thought on this.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:59 am

Nakena wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Felt it needed to be explained after I saw Torrocca and others speculating it's all a giant Nazi dog whistle. It's literally what WRA has been saying in that it is just a symbol of Anti-Bolshevism we decided to adopt as a result of a drunk convo; take it at face value, folks.


But it has now become an beast that you, the creators, can no longer control. The meme has become feral, spreading and mutating on its own.


Such is the nature of memes.

Pepe for example. :twisted:
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Scomagia
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:01 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Not that many, this forum has become really depleted compared to the 2014 - 2017 days.

It's pretty sad to see something with so little effort lauded like it's some grand Machiavellian strategy. But that's what the far-right has been reduced to anymore anyway.

It's just some fun some pals thought up, it's literally nothing more. The posters here have made it out to be something it isn't. Pretty funny that people place so much thought on this.

Well, you know, some people see Nazism everywhere, even in their coffee. It's a truly debilitating condition.
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Nouveau Quebecois
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:04 am

I think this is the most active thread I ever made, and also the least effort thread I ever made.
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:39 am

Scomagia wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:It's just some fun some pals thought up, it's literally nothing more. The posters here have made it out to be something it isn't. Pretty funny that people place so much thought on this.

Well, you know, some people see Nazism everywhere, even in their coffee. It's a truly debilitating condition.

Our Nazism is so subtle that it's practically imperceptible.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Loben The 2nd
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:03 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Well, you know, some people see Nazism everywhere, even in their coffee. It's a truly debilitating condition.

Our Nazism is so subtle that it's practically imperceptible.

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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:35 am

Katganistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Communism is bloody unattainable. It’s utopia. A stateless society will never happen


It only works on a very small scale -- communes, for example. When you and your neighbors decide to live collectively and can see the benefits of sharing skills and products with each other, it works.

When imposed from above with leaders who live in luxury while everyone else toils in poverty, not so much.


That works perfectly for the leaders :blush:
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:35 am

I am late to the party, but I am thinking of putting UND HUAC on my flag.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:38 am

Katganistan wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Or someone comes up with a great idea, and rightfully wants credit for it.


Would you mind clarifying? I'm not following how this relates to what NCR and I were discussing.

Communism does not allow people to reap good rewards for their ideas. You were discussing communism.

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:39 am

Novus America wrote:I am late to the party, but I am thinking of putting UND HUAC on my flag.

Glorious.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:41 am

Novus America wrote:I am late to the party, but I am thinking of putting UND HUAC on my flag.

HUAC?

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:42 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Novus America wrote:I am late to the party, but I am thinking of putting UND HUAC on my flag.

HUAC?

House Un-American Activities Committee

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Pacomia
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Postby Pacomia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:42 am

I'm late, but yeah I changed mine.
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:44 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:HUAC?

House Un-American Activities Committee

One of the greatest institutions this nation has ever seen.

The anti-Bolshevik Inquisition? Yeah, they were pretty great...

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Cerinda
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Postby Cerinda » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:52 am

You mean a bunch of right-wingers are co opting a flag that was originally used by far-right thugs? What a surprise.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:53 am

Cerinda wrote:You mean a bunch of right-wingers are co opting a flag that was originally used by far-right thugs? What a surprise.


Please continue.

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Scomagia
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:05 pm

Cerinda wrote:You mean a bunch of right-wingers are co opting a flag that was originally used by far-right thugs? What a surprise.

More than right-wingers but okay.
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