"Und Doch" Trend

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I’m not necessarily afraid of anything in this case (though I’m afraid of far right ideologies in general since those pose a threat my existence as a person), just a bit suspicious of the usage of such symbols by individuals of the authoritarian and totalitarian right here all around the same time. I very much doubt it’s purely for anti-communist reasons, since a lot of the far right has a history of using various symbols to not only dog whistle but to use as a wink-wink to each other and a means to ID each other. But hey, that’s just me.

Whats kinda interesting that some people from the "totalitarian right" (I think you mean nazis right?) and other intolerant folks do not necessarily use those symbols as much. Most of them are rather shoddy in their appearence. Here on NSG alot of them dont even bother to set up a proper nation or sig to my experience. Sometimes not even a flag.

But why you feel threatened in your existence?

A lot of NSG’s totalitarian and authoritarian right wingers are certainly using it though. I’m not gonna name names cuz that’d be rude.

Because as not only a member of a sexual minority and technically a racial (if we count that stupid one drop rule) but also a political dissenter I’d be one of the first on the chopping block if a far-right totalitarian or authoritarian regime came into power and imposed its will.

[Nakena]

Whats kinda interesting that some people from the "totalitarian right" (I think you mean nazis right?) and other intolerant folks do not necessarily use those symbols as much. Most of them are rather shoddy in their appearence. Here on NSG alot of them dont even bother to set up a proper nation or sig to my experience. Sometimes not even a flag.

But why you feel threatened in your existence?

A lot of NSG’s totalitarian and authoritarian right wingers are certainly using it though. I’m not gonna name names cuz that’d be rude.

Because as not only a member of a sexual minority and technically a racial (if we count that stupid one drop rule) but also a political dissenter I’d be one of the first on the chopping block if a far-right totalitarian or authoritarian regime came into power and imposed its will.

See? We're perhaps not so different at all in the end.

Nothing wrong in my book with being pansexual or one-drop or two, three or more.

As for the political stuff I dont know. I am not sure what you're into. But feel free to send me a TG if you like.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Whats kinda interesting that some people from the "totalitarian right" (I think you mean nazis right?) and other intolerant folks do not necessarily use those symbols as much. Most of them are rather shoddy in their appearence. Here on NSG alot of them dont even bother to set up a proper nation or sig to my experience. Sometimes not even a flag.

But why you feel threatened in your existence?

A lot of NSG’s totalitarian and authoritarian right wingers are certainly using it though. I’m not gonna name names cuz that’d be rude.

Because as not only a member of a sexual minority and technically a racial (if we count that stupid one drop rule) but also a political dissenter I’d be one of the first on the chopping block if a far-right totalitarian or authoritarian regime came into power and imposed its will.

I am a right-winger, and I would be scared that such Nazis would target me for my political views. Libertarians might be right-wingers, but I don't think that would carry any favors with actual Nazis.

As for that "und doch" flag, yes, while some Nazis might use it, I doubt that most people who set that as their flag qualify as Nazis.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

A lot of NSG’s totalitarian and authoritarian right wingers are certainly using it though. I’m not gonna name names cuz that’d be rude.

Because as not only a member of a sexual minority and technically a racial (if we count that stupid one drop rule) but also a political dissenter I’d be one of the first on the chopping block if a far-right totalitarian or authoritarian regime came into power and imposed its will.

I am a right-winger, and I would be scared that such Nazis would target me for my political views. Libertarians might be right-wingers, but I don't think that would carry any favors with actual Nazis.

As for that "und doch" flag, yes, while some Nazis might use it, I doubt that most people who set that as their flag qualify as Nazis.

I like you, Liber, you’re definitely not a fascist, reactionary, neo-Nazi, white nationalist or other right-wing authoritarian or totalitarian from all I’ve seen of your postings, so no worries there m80.

I’m not saying all of them are Nazis, Nazism isn’t the only right-wing totalitarian or authoritarian ideology out there, I’m just saying, a lot of them certainly fit within the right-wing variations of authoritarianism and totalitarianism. You’re not one of them tho, I can’t make that clear enough.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

A lot of NSG’s totalitarian and authoritarian right wingers are certainly using it though. I’m not gonna name names cuz that’d be rude.

Because as not only a member of a sexual minority and technically a racial (if we count that stupid one drop rule) but also a political dissenter I’d be one of the first on the chopping block if a far-right totalitarian or authoritarian regime came into power and imposed its will.

See? We're perhaps not so different at all in the end.

Nothing wrong in my book with being pansexual or one-drop or two, three or more.

As for the political stuff I dont know. I am not sure what you're into. But feel free to send me a TG if you like.

I’ll certainly do so here in a bit, thanks.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Every doch has his day, but night falls on us all.

[Thermodolia]

Trend is clearly dead. Back to good ol' Armoured SJW.

I’m gonna be keeping mine for awhile

[Thermodolia]

Whats kinda interesting that some people from the "totalitarian right" (I think you mean nazis right?) and other intolerant folks do not necessarily use those symbols as much. Most of them are rather shoddy in their appearence. Here on NSG alot of them dont even bother to set up a proper nation or sig to my experience. Sometimes not even a flag.

But why you feel threatened in your existence?

A lot of NSG’s totalitarian and authoritarian right wingers are certainly using it though. I’m not gonna name names cuz that’d be rude.

Because as not only a member of a sexual minority and technically a racial (if we count that stupid one drop rule) but also a political dissenter I’d be one of the first on the chopping block if a far-right totalitarian or authoritarian regime came into power and imposed its will.

Depending on your political beliefs you could also find yourself on the wrong end of a gun under a far left regime as well

[Great Minarchistan]

If you have to say "Technically it doesn't..." then chances are that it does in fact carry the meaning of said ideology.

Not necessarily. I doubt everyone with the flag is a Nazi or Fascist.

Mhm. Besides, it's allowed by the rules as far as I've read.

[Totally Not OEP]

> TFW something a handful of us decided to do while drunk on Discord resulted in a 30 page thread

[Loben The 2nd]

> TFW something a handful of us decided to do while drunk on Discord resulted in a 30 page thread

Bruh

[The New California Republic]

> TFW something a handful of us decided to do while drunk on Discord resulted in a 30 page thread

22.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

> TFW something a handful of us decided to do while drunk on Discord resulted in a 30 page thread

Isn’t that how everything goes these days though, fam?

[Loben The 2nd]

> TFW something a handful of us decided to do while drunk on Discord resulted in a 30 page thread

Isn’t that how everything goes these days though, fam?

It’s where most memes are born.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Isn’t that how everything goes these days though, fam?

It’s where most memes are born.

Ah the memes. The glorious memes. The true appreciation of Pepe.

[Totally Not OEP]

> TFW something a handful of us decided to do while drunk on Discord resulted in a 30 page thread

22.

I'm still drunk, so...

[Thermodolia]

22.

I'm still drunk, so...

You’re only 8 pages off no biggie

[Totally Not OEP]

I'm still drunk, so...

You’re only 8 pages off no biggie

30 or 22, the fact we've had this much speculation based off something we randomly decided to do while several of us were drunk is kinda funny; it's literally what it is at face value. In fact, the whole conversation started because somebody suggested I use the flag of the German Empire for my avi and then GM suggested the Freikorps flag would be more accurate. We all got to talking about our hate for Communism then and it just took off from there.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Clean up in aisle three please. It seems the beans have been spilled.

[Katganistan]

Ah-ha, but by recognising what they're doing, you have been owned! You fool! The only way to beat fascists is to let them sneakily promote fascism with memes and irony.

Oh no! I've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders! Woe is me!

You've gotten involved with a land war in Asia?

[Totally Not OEP]

Clean up in aisle three please. It seems the beans have been spilled.

Felt it needed to be explained after I saw Torrocca and others speculating it's all a giant Nazi dog whistle. It's literally what WRA has been saying in that it is just a symbol of Anti-Bolshevism we decided to adopt as a result of a drunk convo; take it at face value, folks.

[Nea Byzantia]

Clean up in aisle three please. It seems the beans have been spilled.

Felt it needed to be explained after I saw Torrocca and others speculating it's all a giant Nazi dog whistle. It's literally what WRA has been saying in that it is just a symbol of Anti-Bolshevism we decided to adopt as a result of a drunk convo; take it at face value, folks.

That's hilarious...Imagine what you could accomplish while sober...

[Deneb]

> TFW something a handful of us decided to do while drunk on Discord resulted in a 30 page thread

The meme magic makes people worry over nothing

[Ifreann]

*Eiserne Brigade

And the Iron Brigade defended the Baltics from Communist and Soviet advance, what's Nazi about that?

Just clarifying that "Und Doch" wasn't the name of the freikorps in the Baltic.

[Hanafuridake]

Felt it needed to be explained after I saw Torrocca and others speculating it's all a giant Nazi dog whistle. It's literally what WRA has been saying in that it is just a symbol of Anti-Bolshevism we decided to adopt as a result of a drunk convo; take it at face value, folks.

That's hilarious...Imagine what you could accomplish while sober...

He just trolled a few people on an obscure internet forum, why are you acting like he accomplished something significant.