"Und Doch" Trend

[Cekoviu]

Freaking out about left-wing violence, stoking fear and anger among right-wingers by using examples from more than 15 years ago...

Showing shitty leftist memes from 2003 is stoking fear?

Yes, when accompanied by text like

I hope that does not happen. I hate communism, but fascism ain't good either.

Well then the left better cut their shit out, because as the West continues to break down that's what will happen. At the end of the day, people don't really care about identity politics, they just want to be left alone and live a normal life.

But when you start prodding them and saying that they're hateful Nazi bigots for literally just being normal people, the reaction builds.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Regardless of where it came from, for me the trend is over.

[Scomagia]

Regardless of where it came from, for me the trend is over.

Me too. I'm on to better things.

[Nea Byzantia]

The more memorable symbol of Marinebrigade Ehrhardt is actually the swastika.

In all pictures I have seen they flew the old Imperial Navy war flag.

But the Swastika was a rather common military symbol before the Nazis.
For example the Oklahoma Army National Guard (45th Infantry Division) used a swastika as its symbol before WWII.

Is this a good time to ask why did the Nazis use the Swastika as their symbol?

[The Great-German Empire]

Late to the party as I may be, Und Doch is a fun little slogan. It conveys defiance and bravery like few other two-word combinations do. It's unfortunate that it has been linked to an organization that ultimately engaged in protofascism, but that's no reason not to appreciate the nature of the phrase itself.

[Nakena]

Regardless of where it came from, for me the trend is over.

Regardless, you indulged quite deeply in it. ^^

[Napkizemlja]

In all pictures I have seen they flew the old Imperial Navy war flag.

But the Swastika was a rather common military symbol before the Nazis.
For example the Oklahoma Army National Guard (45th Infantry Division) used a swastika as its symbol before WWII.

Is this a good time to ask why did the Nazis use the Swastika as their symbol?

Nazis linked tied it to their idea that ancient Aryans came from Northern Europe and as a result was a "pure" Aryan symbol unlike things such as say the Cross. It's a symbol that had a long history across Europe from ancient times all the way through until the Nazis used it.

[Napkizemlja]

The more memorable symbol of Marinebrigade Ehrhardt is actually the swastika.

The white one that was (MS-) Painted on the Helmets during the Kapp putsch?

Yes.

The more memorable symbol of Marinebrigade Ehrhardt is actually the swastika.

In all pictures I have seen they flew the old Imperial Navy war flag.

But the Swastika was a rather common military symbol before the Nazis.
For example the Oklahoma Army National Guard (45th Infantry Division) used a swastika as its symbol before WWII.

I wasn't talking about flags.

[Proctopeo]

All you need to do is adapt one of the skull flags as yours. Theres even three different variants to pick from!

https://i.redd.it/l3c1vzu23hn01.png < Classic version
https://i.redd.it/5q8uteptbal11.png < Three color version
https://www.panel555.com/images/UND_DOCH_bandera.jpg < Ornate version



ADL is generally better researched and knowledgeable. They know alot about the little differences and details.

True. ADL is nowhere near as bad about just lobbing around accusations.

The ADL did recently release an utter garbage article though.
And they caved to demands that a cartoon frog be declared a "hate symbol" (although they wrote it in such a way that they basically said "it's not one, but we're saying it is anyway").

Anyway, harmless flag trend to express anti-communist solidarity.

[Cekoviu]

True. ADL is nowhere near as bad about just lobbing around accusations.

The ADL did recently release an utter garbage article though.
And they caved to demands that a cartoon frog be declared a "hate symbol" (although they wrote it in such a way that they basically said "it's not one, but we're saying it is anyway").

Anyway, harmless flag trend to express anti-communist solidarity.

Utter garbage as in actual garbage or the more typical "I disagree with the conclusions, so it's trash"?

[Scomagia]

The ADL did recently release an utter garbage article though.
And they caved to demands that a cartoon frog be declared a "hate symbol" (although they wrote it in such a way that they basically said "it's not one, but we're saying it is anyway").

Anyway, harmless flag trend to express anti-communist solidarity.

Utter garbage as in actual garbage or the more typical "I disagree with the conclusions, so it's trash"?

Calling Pepe a hate symbol would count as the former.

[Cekoviu]

Utter garbage as in actual garbage or the more typical "I disagree with the conclusions, so it's trash"?

Calling Pepe a hate symbol would count as the former.

I read it as those being separate things, the wording being kind of ambiguous. I'm not sure if that's what Proctopeo meant or not.

[Proctopeo]

The ADL did recently release an utter garbage article though.
And they caved to demands that a cartoon frog be declared a "hate symbol" (although they wrote it in such a way that they basically said "it's not one, but we're saying it is anyway").

Anyway, harmless flag trend to express anti-communist solidarity.

Utter garbage as in actual garbage or the more typical "I disagree with the conclusions, so it's trash"?

Actual garbage.

Calling Pepe a hate symbol would count as the former.

I read it as those being separate things, the wording being kind of ambiguous. I'm not sure if that's what Proctopeo meant or not.

Separate things, yes.

[Cekoviu]

Utter garbage as in actual garbage or the more typical "I disagree with the conclusions, so it's trash"?

Actual garbage.

I read it as those being separate things, the wording being kind of ambiguous. I'm not sure if that's what Proctopeo meant or not.

Separate things, yes.

Okay, so what was it?

[Proctopeo]

Actual garbage.


Separate things, yes.

Okay, so what was it?

A survey polling people of video game about their experiences with video games, primarily online.

The "this is trash" sets in partway through when they regurgitate lies about an unfairly maligned movement, and continues as you realize that they haven't explicitly given us their questions, or their raw statistics, or much of anything besides graphs and paragraphs, and reaches maximum trash depth when the aforementioned movement is brought up as if it's on the same level of Holocaust denialism and ISIS support.

I don't remember if they actually had a formal conclusion to this, but the general idea was roughly "we're angry that toxic people exist online (as in real life) and want game companies to, somehow, fix this".

[Nova Cyberia]

You rang?

[Nakena]

Utter garbage as in actual garbage or the more typical "I disagree with the conclusions, so it's trash"?

Calling Pepe a hate symbol would count as the former.

Will the "Und Doch" flag have the same fate?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Regardless of where it came from, for me the trend is over.

Regardless, you indulged quite deeply in it. ^^

I'm glad to have participated. Anti-communism is a virtue.

[Salus Maior]

tbh I'm just using the Iron Division flag cuz afaik all the other units used the Imperial war flag or the tricolor and that's lame and terribly boring

That doesn't make it magically any better. You do understand that, correct?

You're not the police of who has what kind of flag, you do understand that, right?

[Scomagia]

Calling Pepe a hate symbol would count as the former.

Will the "Und Doch" flag have the same fate?

Possibly. The phrase itself shouldn't since it's much older.

[Scomagia]

That doesn't make it magically any better. You do understand that, correct?

You're not the police of who has what kind of flag, you do understand that, right?

But what would NSG be without supporters of anarchist violence chastising people for having the wrong flag? Why, it'd be unrecognizable.

[Salus Maior]

You're not the police of who has what kind of flag, you do understand that, right?

But what would NSG be without supporters of anarchist violence chastising people for having the wrong flag? Why, it'd be unrecognizable.

She's a pacifist. But still, it is kind of obnoxious.

[Scomagia]

But what would NSG be without supporters of anarchist violence chastising people for having the wrong flag? Why, it'd be unrecognizable.

She's a pacifist. But still, it is kind of obnoxious.

Coulda fooled me.

[Nakena]

But what would NSG be without supporters of anarchist violence chastising people for having the wrong flag? Why, it'd be unrecognizable.

She's a pacifist. But still, it is kind of obnoxious.

The Tantrum Torroccanum is widely feared.

[Ginicun]

I actually kinda find it amusing myself... I wish that someone would make a variation where the text says "Muh Dick". That would be pretty amusing, if albeit nonsensical.