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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:46 pm

Nakena wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:I'm down...


All you need to do is adapt one of the skull flags as yours. Theres even three different variants to pick from!

https://i.redd.it/l3c1vzu23hn01.png < Classic version
https://i.redd.it/5q8uteptbal11.png < Three color version
https://www.panel555.com/images/UND_DOCH_bandera.jpg < Ornate version

So the Skull is your uniform?

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:47 pm

Nakena wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:I'm down...


All you need to do is adapt one of the skull flags as yours. Theres even three different variants to pick from!

https://i.redd.it/l3c1vzu23hn01.png < Classic version
https://i.redd.it/5q8uteptbal11.png < Three color version
https://www.panel555.com/images/UND_DOCH_bandera.jpg < Ornate version

Nea Byzantia wrote:The ADL is still biased, either way...


ADL is generally better researched and knowledgeable. They know alot about the little differences and details.

True. ADL is nowhere near as bad about just lobbing around accusations.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:47 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
All you need to do is adapt one of the skull flags as yours. Theres even three different variants to pick from!

https://i.redd.it/l3c1vzu23hn01.png < Classic version
https://i.redd.it/5q8uteptbal11.png < Three color version
https://www.panel555.com/images/UND_DOCH_bandera.jpg < Ornate version

So the Skull is your uniform?


The meme is spreading at fast speed. So get it while its hot. In a week it might already be over again!

Scomagia wrote:True. ADL is nowhere near as bad about just lobbing around accusations.


They do their homework first.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:49 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
All you need to do is adapt one of the skull flags as yours. Theres even three different variants to pick from!

https://i.redd.it/l3c1vzu23hn01.png < Classic version
https://i.redd.it/5q8uteptbal11.png < Three color version
https://www.panel555.com/images/UND_DOCH_bandera.jpg < Ornate version



ADL is generally better researched and knowledgeable. They know alot about the little differences and details.

True. ADL is nowhere near as bad about just lobbing around accusations.

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:True. ADL is nowhere near as bad about just lobbing around accusations.

SPLC used to be the same. Sometime around 2015-2016 they went to shit

I imagine the ADL is not far behind...

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Postby Ohioan Territory » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:50 pm

At the very least, it's some cool history.
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Postby Nuclear Wastelands » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:53 pm

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Scomagia wrote:You're a little late. :p

Eh it happens. I’m like an Italian always fashionably late to the party :p

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You're a little late. :p

Eh it happens. I’m like an Italian always fashionably late to the party :p

Mhmm. I'm ruthlessly punctual. Like the Germans.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:14 pm

It's just a trend that arose to promote spread anti-Bolshevik sentiment and taking on one of the more memorable insignia's of the Freikorps considering Marinebrigade Ehrhardt's would result in oneself getting banned.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:See, that's the thing, the Iron Division had nothing to do with fascism. The Fascists didn't even exist then. As for my opinion, I think so long as the Mods seem okay with it, 'tis fine. Especially when it's taken as a joke.

If you have to say "Technically it doesn't..." then chances are that it does in fact carry the meaning of said ideology.

One of the largest Freikorps organizations was the Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold and its mission was to defend the Weimar Republic against the likes of fascists and communists.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:16 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:It's just a trend that arose to promote spread anti-Bolshevik sentiment and taking on one of the more memorable insignia's of the Freikorps considering Marinebrigade Ehrhardt's would result in oneself getting banned.


Wrong. But it isnt as memeable.

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Postby Napkizemlja » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 pm

Nakena wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:It's just a trend that arose to promote spread anti-Bolshevik sentiment and taking on one of the more memorable insignia's of the Freikorps considering Marinebrigade Ehrhardt's would result in oneself getting banned.


Wrong. But it isnt as memeable.

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The more memorable symbol of Marinebrigade Ehrhardt is actually the swastika.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:39 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Wrong. But it isnt as memeable.

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The more memorable symbol of Marinebrigade Ehrhardt is actually the swastika.


The white one that was (MS-) Painted on the Helmets during the Kapp putsch?

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Postby Novus America » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:49 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Wrong. But it isnt as memeable.

Image

The more memorable symbol of Marinebrigade Ehrhardt is actually the swastika.


In all pictures I have seen they flew the old Imperial Navy war flag.

But the Swastika was a rather common military symbol before the Nazis.
For example the Oklahoma Army National Guard (45th Infantry Division) used a swastika as its symbol before WWII.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:00 pm

I could be wrong but in Farnhamia’s case, I can bet her use of Und DEAT in her flag is a joke play on the Friekorps phrase stemming from her position as forum moderator.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:02 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I could be wrong but in Farnhamia’s case, I can bet her use of Und DEAT in her flag is a joke play on the Friekorps phrase stemming from her position as forum moderator.

Yes I think so.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:03 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I could be wrong but in Farnhamia’s case, I can bet her use of Und DEAT in her flag is a joke play on the Friekorps phrase stemming from her position as forum moderator.

Yes I think so.

I'm not sure if my friend Rene ... on second thought, he might find it funny after a bottle of decent wine.
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Postby Goverment Of The Argentinian State » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:15 pm

As regards the relation between the Freikorps and the Nazis, i have Von der Goltz's memoirs in English. The oppinions he expresses are reactionary to death (he does quite openly state that he beat a small boy up for ridiculing the former Imperial Anthem). But he was not a nazi and most of his memoirs are actually favorable to the white russians - albeit on account of him considering them to be allied to the German aristocracy. In fact, he states that most of the troops of the iron division and freikopr early on were Social Democrats but they were replaced because they were not willing to stay in Latvia for long. Most of his rage is directed at the British, not the Russians or in fact the communist at all.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:16 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes I think so.

I'm not sure if my friend Rene ... on second thought, he might find it funny after a bottle of decent wine.

Don't you remember Part VII of Discourse on the Method, entitled Proof of Mod and the DEAT?
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:17 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I'm not sure if my friend Rene ... on second thought, he might find it funny after a bottle of decent wine.

Don't you remember Part VII of Discourse on the Method, entitled Proof of Mod and the DEAT?


She may have already partaken of said decent wine. Hence her forgetfulness.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:18 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I'm not sure if my friend Rene ... on second thought, he might find it funny after a bottle of decent wine.

Don't you remember Part VII of Discourse on the Method, entitled Proof of Mod and the DEAT?

He would have written that in an instant. I loved that man, he was a great friend, but if you got him talking about philosophy and all ... suffice it to say, I got a lot of sleep.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:21 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I could be wrong but in Farnhamia’s case, I can bet her use of Und DEAT in her flag is a joke play on the Friekorps phrase stemming from her position as forum moderator.

I believe you mean a game moderator. ;)
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:34 pm

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And how is that?

Freaking out about left-wing violence, stoking fear and anger among right-wingers by using examples from more than 15 years ago...


Showing shitty leftist memes from 2003 is stoking fear?
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Postby Turbofolkia » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:35 pm

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Turbofolkia wrote:I don’t think Titoism is something that could be replicated somewhere else. The reason Tito was able to rule and implement his ideology was due to his charisma and his hero-status that he acquired from his time as a Partisan leader. It was an ideology that was quite specific to the people of Yugoslavia and was heavily dependent on Tito as an individual.

I mean, while my home country was definitely better off under Yugoslavia I certainly don’t regret its downfall either. It’s not a system to replicate.

I, obviously, beg to differ

Can I ask why do you reckon Titoism could feasibly be implemented elsewhere and in another time? I’m just intrigued because I’ve never really come across a non-Yugoslav Titoist before...
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:40 pm

Nakena wrote:
Mutz wrote: ->Article about the Freikorps movement in the Baltics: http://www.bernhard-sauer-historiker.de ... entums.pdf


Thanks I will look this stuff up I am very interested myself in history.


Hey Mutz,

So I finished and managed going through the content of this very interesting PDF you linked today and I must admit this absolutly made my day.

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