"Und Doch" Trend

[Bear Stearns]

It seems so. Well, their own fault when Gen Z Westerners grow up to be fascist paramilitary fighters.

I hope that does not happen. I hate communism, but fascism ain't good either.

Well then the left better cut their shit out, because as the West continues to break down that's what will happen. At the end of the day, people don't really care about identity politics, they just want to be left alone and live a normal life.

But when you start prodding them and saying that they're hateful Nazi bigots for literally just being normal people, the reaction builds.

[Nea Byzantia]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

NS mods are Nazis now.

Well if they're not Communists what else could they possibly be...

[Ifreann]

I dunno. I feel bad for being a Nazi (according to our resident anarchist violence supporters) for being memey. I guess my ideology totally flipped as soon as I started trying to be funny. Who knew?

There's literally nothing remotely Nazi about even the original Und Doch paramilitary group, much less the meme

*Eiserne Brigade

[Risottia]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

NS mods are Nazis now.

Well, a certain mod dressed up as an SS once in 1944, but I know it was just part of their job for the MI6.

[Purgatio]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

My "Und DEAT" is meant as mockery, to be honest. I did debate smacking the first flags I saw with the death's head but on looking into it, I decided to allow it, for the moment. I will, however, take down my flag.

Please don't give in to this nonsense, there's literally nothing wrong with the words, much less a parody mocking the Und Doch trend, no reason to take it off your flag and it just encourages this kind of over-sensitivity

[Impaled Nazarene]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

Great, another person who thinks the Und Doch were Nazis. Care to provide proof of that?

The fact that everyone who uses it is sympathetic to the fascists, see the nazis as preferable to the communists, literally inhabit the right wing discussion thread, support nationalism, and so forth.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

My "Und DEAT" is meant as mockery, to be honest.

How this could be lost to anyone is beyond me.

[Risottia]

people don't really care about identity politics, they just want to be left alone and live a normal life.

Clearly you haven't been following Italian politics lately.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Great, another person who thinks the Und Doch were Nazis. Care to provide proof of that?

The fact that everyone who uses it is sympathetic to the fascists, see the nazis as preferable to the communists, literally inhabit the right wing discussion thread, support nationalism [???????], and so forth.

Nice generalisation.

[Purgatio]

There's literally nothing remotely Nazi about even the original Und Doch paramilitary group, much less the meme

*Eiserne Brigade

And the Iron Brigade defended the Baltics from Communist and Soviet advance, what's Nazi about that?

[Bear Stearns]

Great, another person who thinks the Und Doch were Nazis. Care to provide proof of that?

The fact that everyone who uses it is sympathetic to the fascists, see the nazis as preferable to the communists, literally inhabit the right wing discussion thread, support nationalism, and so forth.

Fascists drink water and see it as preferable to communism. Water is fascist.

[Nea Byzantia]

NS mods are Nazis now.

Well, a certain mod dressed up as an SS once in 1944, but I know it was just part of their job for the MI6.

Arch, is that you?

[Purgatio]

Great, another person who thinks the Und Doch were Nazis. Care to provide proof of that?

The fact that everyone who uses it is sympathetic to the fascists, see the nazis as preferable to the communists, literally inhabit the right wing discussion thread, support nationalism, and so forth.

So, anyone who:

1) Points to an extremist and violent ideology that they hate more than Nazism (whilst still hating Nazism) or
2) Is right-wing or
3) Is a nationalist

Is now a Nazi. Got it. The outer circles of the word 'Nazi' just keep expanding every day, it seems.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

My "Und DEAT" is meant as mockery, to be honest.

How this could be lost to anyone is beyond me.

Agreed.

[Nea Byzantia]

The fact that everyone who uses it is sympathetic to the fascists, see the nazis as preferable to the communists, literally inhabit the right wing discussion thread, support nationalism, and so forth.

So, anyone who:

1) Points to an extremist and violent ideology that they hate more than Nazism (whilst still hating Nazism) or
2) Is right-wing or
3) Is a nationalist

Is now a Nazi. Got it. The outer circles of the word 'Nazi' just keep expanding every day, it seems.

Which ultimately makes the word meaningless, at this point...

[Bear Stearns]

The fact that everyone who uses it is sympathetic to the fascists, see the nazis as preferable to the communists, literally inhabit the right wing discussion thread, support nationalism, and so forth.

So, anyone who:

1) Points to an extremist and violent ideology that they hate more than Nazism (whilst still hating Nazism) or
2) Is right-wing or
3) Is a nationalist

Is now a Nazi. Got it. The outer circles of the word 'Nazi' just keep expanding every day, it seems.

The words fascists and Nazi lost their meaning when the left started calling George Bush one.

[Purgatio]

So, anyone who:

1) Points to an extremist and violent ideology that they hate more than Nazism (whilst still hating Nazism) or
2) Is right-wing or
3) Is a nationalist

Is now a Nazi. Got it. The outer circles of the word 'Nazi' just keep expanding every day, it seems.

Which ultimately makes the word meaningless, at this point...

Which is a shame. The word has an objective meaning but at this point it just refers to anyone to the right of ANTIFA, basically.

[Cekoviu]

Mine is obviously the best.

I still believe "Und Dude" is a strong contender

Yeah, but mine also plays on the skull, which can't be said for that.

[Internationalist Bastard]

If you don't like that source as an explanation of your beliefs, bring it up at the next ABB meeting.

I am merely pointing out historical details. For example that Luxembourg and Liebknecht were being murdered on orders of social democratic President Friedrich Ebert.

They weren’t basically bandits, only genocidal
So yeah

That isnt even an answer. The "Und Doch" Iron Division was a formation in the Baltics fighting against Bolsheviks in 1919-1920. I am not aware of any genocidal acts or connections to Nazis (which didn existed back then.)

I corrected my pint on the time period but going around butchering villages of different ethnicities to secure your own is pretty genocidal

[Risottia]

Well, a certain mod dressed up as an SS once in 1944, but I know it was just part of their job for the MI6.

Arch, is that you?

That's no SS uniform and that wasn't 1944. Seriously, you'll never see through my maskirovka charade! I meant charade!

[Cekoviu]

So, anyone who:

1) Points to an extremist and violent ideology that they hate more than Nazism (whilst still hating Nazism) or
2) Is right-wing or
3) Is a nationalist

Is now a Nazi. Got it. The outer circles of the word 'Nazi' just keep expanding every day, it seems.

The words fascists and Nazi lost their meaning when the left started calling George Bush one.

TIL concepts can talk

[Bear Stearns]

Which ultimately makes the word meaningless, at this point...

Which is a shame. The word has an objective meaning but at this point it just refers to anyone to the right of ANTIFA, basically.

Daily reminder that the left viewing anyone normal as a Nazi has been happening since at least 2003.

[Purgatio]

I am merely pointing out historical details. For example that Luxembourg and Liebknecht were being murdered on orders of social democratic President Friedrich Ebert.



That isnt even an answer. The "Und Doch" Iron Division was a formation in the Baltics fighting against Bolsheviks in 1919-1920. I am not aware of any genocidal acts or connections to Nazis (which didn existed back then.)

I corrected my pint on the time period but going around butchering villages of different ethnicities to secure your own is pretty genocidal

Is there any evidence at all that the Freikorps targeted any community on the basis of race alone and not ideology?

[Nea Byzantia]

Arch, is that you?

That's no SS uniform and that wasn't 1944. Seriously, you'll never see through my maskirovka charade! I meant charade!

I know, I was just making a stupid joke...

[Risottia]

So, anyone who:

1) Points to an extremist and violent ideology that they hate more than Nazism (whilst still hating Nazism) or
2) Is right-wing or
3) Is a nationalist

Is now a Nazi. Got it. The outer circles of the word 'Nazi' just keep expanding every day, it seems.

Which ultimately makes the word meaningless, at this point...

If it's meaningless now, I can give it any meaning I want.

Nu-nu-nu.

That opens interesting possibilities.