"Und Doch" Trend

[Nea Byzantia]

The Commies have a tendency of birthing the very Nazis they say they're opposed to.

It seems so. Well, their own fault when Gen Z Westerners grow up to be fascist paramilitary fighters.

That's what I mean, and historically its always happened that way. Fascism is always a reaction to Communist, Leftist, excesses.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

The Commies have a tendency of birthing the very Nazis they say they're opposed to.

[citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary

[Risottia]

How about "HUND DOCH" ?

Someone must make a doge version. The pisstaking must continue.

Ask and ye shall be given.



Just made it. And it's educational, too.

[Bear Stearns]

The Commies have a tendency of birthing the very Nazis they say they're opposed to.

[citation needed]

Communists go around telling normal people they are Nazis, attacking them, sometimes committing terrorism. Eventually society gets tired of their shit and decides to show them what an actual goosestep looks like.

[Nea Byzantia]

The Commies have a tendency of birthing the very Nazis they say they're opposed to.

[citation needed]

History of the 20th Century

[Cekoviu]

Mine is obviously the best.

[Purgatio]

There's literally nothing remotely Nazi about even the original Und Doch paramilitary group, much less the meme

Well, considering they pursued extralegal "solutions" to their perceived problems, I would be very, very careful about advocating the same things here or holding them up as an example.

The Und Doch paramilitaries were following the example of the Freikorps in Germany, who responded with force to the incredibly-violent and anarchic Räterepublik in Bavaria. When violent Communists establish a Soviet-style government by force, talking to them nicely isn't going to do it, people coming out with guns to support law enforcement and the military was the only way to protect the German people against an incredibly-inhumane ideology and the Und Doch group, which operated in the Baltics, understood the potent threat of Communism even more than the German Freikorps.

I'm a big believer in the rule of law and due process, but war is war, and when Communists are arming themselves, slaughtering perceived enemies en masse and establishing violent governments, talking nicely and waiting for courts and due process isn't gonna cut it, the streets will be strewn with blood before the first arrest is made. Without the Freikorps, Germany could have fallen to Communism, and the Und Doch group understood this and took preventative action that was necessary under the extreme circumstances of that dark chapter in European history.

[Risottia]

It seems so. Well, their own fault when Gen Z Westerners grow up to be fascist paramilitary fighters.

That's what I mean, and historically its always happened that way. Fascism is always a reaction to Communist, Leftist, excesses.

And Communism is a reaction to Capitalism.

Welcome to the funny world of Hegelian dialectics.

[Bear Stearns]

That's what I mean, and historically its always happened that way. Fascism is always a reaction to Communist, Leftist, excesses.

And Communism is a reaction to Capitalism.

Welcome to the funny world of Hegelian dialectics.

And capitalism was a reaction to the inefficiencies of feudalism.

So therefore the logical path of society is feudalism -> capitalism -> communist revolution -> fascist counterrevolution -> return to feudalism and the cycle continues.

[Farnhamia]

Well, considering they pursued extralegal "solutions" to their perceived problems, I would be very, very careful about advocating the same things here or holding them up as an example.

Would you say the same to thing with anyone of the flag of a violent communist group, police force, or military unit? I've seen some PLA and North Korean flags around here before.

Was I talking about the flag? *checks* No, I didn't think so. I was talking about advocating the same actions taken by Freikorps units. And yes, I would warn for extolling "a violent communist group, police force, or military unit". Naturally, individual cases are judged individually, but advocating violence here is never a good idea.

[Purgatio]

[citation needed]

Communists go around telling normal people they are Nazis, attacking them, sometimes committing terrorism. Eventually society gets tired of their shit and decides to show them what an actual goosestep looks like.

Because when the far left gets violent and starts punching and killing people in the middle, and the far right promises to protect us all, by force if necessary, the latter sound more and more attractive the more violent the former get

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Mine is obviously the best.

I still believe "Und Dude" is a strong contender

[LiberNovusAmericae]

The Commies have a tendency of birthing the very Nazis they say they're opposed to.

It seems so. Well, their own fault when Gen Z Westerners grow up to be fascist paramilitary fighters.

I hope that does not happen. I hate communism, but fascism ain't good either.

[Impaled Nazarene]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

[Purgatio]

Would you say the same to thing with anyone of the flag of a violent communist group, police force, or military unit? I've seen some PLA and North Korean flags around here before.

Was I talking about the flag? *checks* No, I didn't think so. I was talking about advocating the same actions taken by Freikorps units. And yes, I would warn for extolling "a violent communist group, police force, or military unit". Naturally, individual cases are judged individually, but advocating violence here is never a good idea.

It was defensive violence against violent groups that had killed and slaughtered so many already in Bavaria

[Risottia]

Well, considering they pursued extralegal "solutions" to their perceived problems, I would be very, very careful about advocating the same things here or holding them up as an example.

Is fighting evil with evil really evil? :bigthink:

Yes.
If it weren't so, Stalin would be the best dude ever.

[Purgatio]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

Great, another person who thinks the Und Doch were Nazis. Care to provide proof of that?

[Nouveau Quebecois]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

all germans are nazis

[Bear Stearns]

[citation needed]

History of the 20th Century

The fact that communists can uironically look at their history and then say "IT'S THE NAZIS GUYS" is some serious mental blockage.

[Nea Byzantia]

That's what I mean, and historically its always happened that way. Fascism is always a reaction to Communist, Leftist, excesses.

And Communism is a reaction to Capitalism.

Welcome to the funny world of Hegelian dialectics.

Communism is a product of Capitalism.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

Not even close.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Is fighting evil with evil really evil? :bigthink:

Yes.
If it weren't so, Stalin would be the best dude ever.

You know, there are some people out there who really think that

[Bear Stearns]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

NS mods are Nazis now.

[Farnhamia]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

My "Und DEAT" is meant as mockery, to be honest. I did debate smacking the first flags I saw with the death's head but on looking into it, I decided to allow it, for the moment. I will, however, take down my flag.

[Arcturus Novus]

They just found a loophole to the no SS symbolism rule and are abusing it. Judging by Farn's usage of the slogan some of the mods are very sympathetic. I'm guessing one or two of the higher ups are still opposed to this or else the no nazi symbols rule would be removed. NS has become the summer.

NS mods are Nazis now.

Yep, that's definitely the takeaway from this post. 10/10 reading comprehension good job