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by **Torrocca** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:15 am

Nakena wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Anti-Bolsheviks conflating Bolshevism with Communism? It's more likely than you think.

Lets face the music Torra, and thats that by definition Bolshevism is totalitarian in ideology and practice. Theres no free areas of individual independence and freedom left. Meanwhile that is not the case with Freikorps.

So which one do you rather would choose if being confronted with those options, like the Baltics were, in 1919?

Disregarding the fact that the above statement has literally nothing to do with me pointing out that there's people in this very thread who are conflating Bolshevism with Communism, I'd choose the one that objectively didn't attempt an ethnic cleansing in 1919.

by **No State Here** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:21 am

Communism sucks, but so does fascism, meme is kinda edgy

by **LiberNovusAmericae** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:23 am

No State Here wrote:Communism sucks, but so does fascism, meme is kinda edgy

It is not a fascist meme. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps_in_the_Baltic

by **Ifreann** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:24 am

Nakena wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Anti-Bolsheviks conflating Bolshevism with Communism? It's more likely than you think.

Lets face the music Torra, and thats that by definition Bolshevism is totalitarian in ideology and practice. Theres no free areas of individual independence and freedom left. Meanwhile that is not the case with Freikorps.

So which one do you rather would choose if being confronted with those options, like the Baltics were, in 1919?

I don't know about Torra, but if I found myself in the Baltics in 1919 I'd leave the Baltics and go looking for Hitler.

by **Torrocca** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Lets face the music Torra, and thats that by definition Bolshevism is totalitarian in ideology and practice. Theres no free areas of individual independence and freedom left. Meanwhile that is not the case with Freikorps.

So which one do you rather would choose if being confronted with those options, like the Baltics were, in 1919?

I don't know about Torra, but if I found myself in the Baltics in 1919 I'd leave the Baltics and go looking for Hitler.

I'd probably turn into a human popsicle a day into finding myself in the Baltics in 1919, tbqh. I'm built for the exact opposite climate to the one in that region.

by **Greater Cesnica** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:28 am

by **LiberNovusAmericae** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:30 am

Down with Bolshevism and Communism!

by **Godular** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:31 am

Does sitting here talking about a meme with such vigor make us Und Dorks?

by **Ifreann** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:32 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:size=200 b Down with Bolshevism and Communism! /b /size

Or what?

by **No State Here** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:32 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Down with Bolshevism and Communism!

And fascism!

by **No State Here** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:33 am

Godular wrote:Does sitting here talking about a meme with such vigor make us Und Dorks?

Last I saw people this triggered over a meme, it was when the media was blaming Pewdiepie for the christchurch massacre

by **Torrocca** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:33 am

No State Here wrote:Communism sucks, but so does fascism, meme is kinda edgy

Communism is the perfect anti-state ideology, my duderino.

by **Dumb Ideologies** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:35 am

No State Here wrote:
Godular wrote:Does sitting here talking about a meme with such vigor make us Und Dorks?

Last I saw people this triggered over a meme, it was when the media was blaming Pewdiepie for the christchurch massacre

Most of all I blame the people who just stood by and didn't subscribe.

by **No State Here** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:36 am

Torrocca wrote:
No State Here wrote:Communism sucks, but so does fascism, meme is kinda edgy

Communism is the perfect anti-state ideology, my duderino.

Communism implies a command economy, which pretty much requires a state to execute properly. Ansoc could be argued as the ideal anti-state ideology, but I see that as infeasible

by **Thermodolia** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:37 am

Torrocca wrote:
No State Here wrote:Communism sucks, but so does fascism, meme is kinda edgy

Communism is the perfect anti-state ideology, my duderino.

Communism is bloody unattainable. It’s utopia. A stateless society will never happen

by **Torrocca** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:38 am

No State Here wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Communism is the perfect anti-state ideology, my duderino.

Communism implies a command economy, which pretty much requires a state to execute properly. Ansoc could be argued as the ideal anti-state ideology, but I see that as infeasible

Communism is literally a socioeconomic theory wherein a society is in a stateless, classless, moneyless condition structured on the common ownership of the means of production. That's the most anti-state you can get.

by **Ifreann** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:38 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
No State Here wrote:Last I saw people this triggered over a meme, it was when the media was blaming Pewdiepie for the christchurch massacre

Most of all I blame the people who just stood by and didn't subscribe.

At least with T-Series you know where you stand, but with neutrals? Who knows?!

by **Thermodolia** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:40 am

No State Here wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Communism is the perfect anti-state ideology, my duderino.

Communism implies a command economy, which pretty much requires a state to execute properly. Ansoc could be argued as the ideal anti-state ideology, but I see that as infeasible

Technically communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless utopia. It can never truly exist because humans will always coalesce into self governing communities which will then join together to form nationstates.

Marxism is the idea using a command economy to gain communism. But because communism is impossible, Marxist states remain in a permanent state of command economy

by **LiberNovusAmericae** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:43 am

No State Here wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Down with Bolshevism and Communism!

And fascism!

Thankfully, I'm not a fascist, and I do oppose that ideology as well.

by **Internationalist Bastard** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:45 am

Look I like being an edgy Teutophile as much as the next Kaisereich fangirl but that’s literally the motto of the like, most evil of nazis who are already evil

by **LiberNovusAmericae** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:47 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Look I like being an edgy Teutophile as much as the next Kaisereich fangirl but that’s literally the motto of the like, most evil of nazis who are already evil

It is not a Nazi motto. It is from a group of mercenaries such as the Iron Division who fought in 1919. They predate the Nazis.

by **Internationalist Bastard** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:49 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Look I like being an edgy Teutophile as much as the next Kaisereich fangirl but that’s literally the motto of the like, most evil of nazis who are already evil

It is not a Nazi motto. It is from a group of mercenaries such as the Iron Division who fought in 1919. They predate the Nazis.

Oof my bad
Still evil

by **Nakena** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:50 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It is not a Nazi motto. It is from a group of mercenaries such as the Iron Division who fought in 1919. They predate the Nazis.

Oof my bad
Still evil

I think you fit right into our Brigade ^^

What makes it evil to you?

by **The New California Republic** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:56 am

I'll just leave my creation right here...

by **Ifreann** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:58 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Look I like being an edgy Teutophile as much as the next Kaisereich fangirl but that’s literally the motto of the like, most evil of nazis who are already evil

It is not a Nazi motto. It is from a group of mercenaries such as the Iron Division who fought in 1919. They predate the Nazis.

You might even call them precursors to the Nazis.

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