"Und Doch" Trend

[Loben The 2nd]

As opposed to Marxism-Leninism which is that plus skull crushing totalitarianism.

You do realize that I’m an authoritarian Socialist right? I’m pretty much a Titoist.

Better then a communist.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

You do realize that I’m an authoritarian Socialist right? I’m pretty much a Titoist.

Better then a communist.

How?

[Thermodolia]

It stopped the clock for 20 years, but that's about it.

20 years that France and Britain didn’t have a knife to their throats. 20 years that the Americans didn’t have a continent full of communists baying for their blood. 20 more years that the Soviet’s spent on internal catastrophes.

We can thank them for preventing a global conflict.

Honestly the thing that really prevented shit was Lenin’s mistake with Stalin. By making Stalin the general secretary he effectively gave Stalin the power to make the party in his image. If he hadn’t done that Trotsky would have been in charge and you would have seen a much much more agressive USSR than in our timeline

[Washington Resistance Army]

Better then a communist.

How?

Titoism wasn't half bad in comparison to other schools of thoughts. It's a shame it was built up in such an inherently unstable nation, I think it could have lasted a lot longer if it was anywhere else.

[Ifreann]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

[Nakena]

Loving this meme, and anti-bolshevism in general

Join the anti-bolshevik Brigade then!

[Bread Herbert]

Just another stupid millennial trend. Nothing to see here.

[Torrocca]

AntiFA's got plenty of fight in it. The problem's that they have the burden of being prevented from going too hard with it, lest the media creates some fucked-up circus against them, meanwhile right-wing extremists can basically commit mass-murder in the name of their ideology and nothing happens in respect to condemning the beliefs that caused such a thing to happen. The court of public opinion - especially one swayed by media influence - matters a fucking lot, shockingly enough.

If public opinion of boomers and the twitter generation is enough to dissuade you from something I feel it's accurate to say you aren't truly committed to it tbh

You do realize it goes way beyond just public opinion, right? Republican Senators haven't been clamoring to declare AntiFA a terrorist organization in a vacuum, y'know - and that's just happening right now in a time when AntiFA literally hasn't committed any murder, unlike its opposition.

[Thermodolia]

You do realize that I’m an authoritarian Socialist right? I’m pretty much a Titoist.

And why are you an authoritarian socialist?

Because the idea that people can do whatever they want and the world will be perfect is absolutely stupid

[The New California Republic]

It stopped the clock for 20 years, but that's about it.

20 years that France and Britain didn’t have a knife to their throats.

Instead the Nazis stepped in and created a different mess...

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

And why are you an authoritarian socialist?

Because the idea that people can do whatever they want and the world will be perfect is absolutely stupid

The idea that people can't do what they want and the world will be perfect is also stupid.

[Torrocca]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

Pretty much the entire Freikorps ideology (which the people venerating it in this thread have proven by their words - or rather, lack thereof on that topic) can be summed up as "THIS THING BAD AND ME MAD".

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

That is largely what all ideological opposition boils down to in the end. Sure I could dress it up in long ass paragraphs about how the ideology is economically illiterate, the follies of internationalism and why it's doomed to fail, it's absolutely atrocious track record and body count that even exceeds that of the Nazis etc etc but in the end it just comes back to commies bad and I don't like them, same with Antifa or anything else.

If public opinion of boomers and the twitter generation is enough to dissuade you from something I feel it's accurate to say you aren't truly committed to it tbh

You do realize it goes way beyond just public opinion, right? Republican Senators haven't been clamoring to declare AntiFA a terrorist organization in a vacuum, y'know - and that's just happening right now in a time when AntiFA literally hasn't committed any murder, unlike its opposition.

The nation you live in was founded by terrorists lol, thank god the founders didn't share your apprehension

[Aureumterra]

Just another stupid millennial trend. Nothing to see here.

Actually, by this point, it seems Gen Z is more prevalent on this site, I’m barely Gen Z (1997)

[Highever]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

Pretty much the entire Freikorps ideology (which the people venerating it in this thread have proven by their words - or rather, lack thereof on that topic) can be summed up as "THIS THING BAD AND ME MAD".

Cannot the exact same thing be said about most Antifa groups?

[Tinhampton]

if anyone has any thoughts on why this trend has reoccurred

Who exactly was the first to take the Iron Div flag and make it into an RWDT injoke?

[Nakena]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

Given that it is a big tent the details may differ depending on whom you ask.

[Loben The 2nd]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

Pretty much the entire Freikorps ideology (which the people venerating it in this thread have proven by their words - or rather, lack thereof on that topic) can be summed up as "THIS THING BAD AND ME MAD".

You are the only one getting mad here.

[Torrocca]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

That is largely what all ideological opposition boils down to in the end. Sure I could dress it up in long ass paragraphs about how the ideology is economically illiterate, the follies of internationalism and why it's doomed to fail, it's absolutely atrocious track record and body count that even exceeds that of the Nazis etc etc but in the end it just comes back to commies bad and I don't like them, same with Antifa or anything else.

You do realize it goes way beyond just public opinion, right? Republican Senators haven't been clamoring to declare AntiFA a terrorist organization in a vacuum, y'know - and that's just happening right now in a time when AntiFA literally hasn't committed any murder, unlike its opposition.

The nation you live in was founded by terrorists lol, thank god the founders didn't share your apprehension

I mean, I have no particular apprehensions, but I'd quite rather not get ganked at night by the state in this cyber age where I'm pretty openly a leftist because I got labeled a terrorist.

Pretty much the entire Freikorps ideology (which the people venerating it in this thread have proven by their words - or rather, lack thereof on that topic) can be summed up as "THIS THING BAD AND ME MAD".

Cannot the exact same thing be said about most Antifa groups?

In regards to AntiFA, it's more like, "Fascism's an inherent evil that erodes liberty and must be opposed at all costs," rather than just, "THING BAD".

[Highever]

In regards to AntiFA, it's more like, "Fascism's an inherent evil that erodes liberty and must be opposed at all costs," rather than just, "THING BAD".

I am pretty sure that is exactly what the Freikorps folks are saying about communism, and you are just trying to somehow make it sound dumbed down and lesser.

[Torrocca]

Pretty much the entire Freikorps ideology (which the people venerating it in this thread have proven by their words - or rather, lack thereof on that topic) can be summed up as "THIS THING BAD AND ME MAD".

You are the only one getting mad here.

Oh no, an attempt at gaslighting. My perception of reality is invariably ruined because you claimed I'm getting mad when not an iota of my text is conveying anger. Woe is me.

[Ifreann]

It's a shame that my attempts to engage with the freikorps philosophical thought, or at least discover what that is, have been met with nothing but vague assertions about the importance of action. I was hoping there'd be something substantial to criticise, but I guess the thought being promoted is "do stuff cos commies bad".

That is largely what all ideological opposition boils down to in the end. Sure I could dress it up in long ass paragraphs about how the ideology is economically illiterate, the follies of internationalism and why it's doomed to fail, it's absolutely atrocious track record and body count that even exceeds that of the Nazis etc etc but in the end it just comes back to commies bad and I don't like them, same with Antifa or anything else.

Foolish of me to think you were here for debate and discussion and not just virtue signalling with your buddies.

[Aureumterra]

In regards to AntiFA, it's more like, "Fascism's an inherent evil that erodes liberty and must be opposed at all costs," rather than just, "THING BAD".

Anything right of center bad
Bike locks come out

[Loben The 2nd]

You are the only one getting mad here.

Oh no, an attempt at gaslighting. My perception of reality is invariably ruined because you claimed I'm getting mad when not an iota of my text is conveying anger. Woe is me.

Seems pretty self evident here.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That is largely what all ideological opposition boils down to in the end. Sure I could dress it up in long ass paragraphs about how the ideology is economically illiterate, the follies of internationalism and why it's doomed to fail, it's absolutely atrocious track record and body count that even exceeds that of the Nazis etc etc but in the end it just comes back to commies bad and I don't like them, same with Antifa or anything else.

Foolish of me to think you were here for debate and discussion and not just virtue signalling with your buddies.

Lets be real Iffy, outside of occasional actual debate in LWDT and RWDT nobody is here for that. Pretty much everything on NSG turns into a circlejerk in one direction or the other.