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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:23 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Marquisal wrote:
Highever wrote:And your reasoning only further points to hateful, ignorant and bigoted nonsense, as you somehow approve of terrorizing and attacking Amahdiyya Muslims in Ireland because completely unrelated Salafist extremists in other countries are hurting Christians. By this logic, it is fine to attack a Methodist church in Iowa because of the actions of the LRA.


Please do not lack me respect, because I have not lacked respect to you.
And please, do not say that I support attacking muslims because the only thing I am doing is not condemning some vandalism.


Marquisal wrote:I would not condemn it because of the people, who still live with fear in our beautiful Europe, who feel betrayed by their government and their neighbours. My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.
This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.


Yes, yes you did.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:23 pm
by Jolthig
Marquisal wrote:My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.

Yet, your people also took land from pagans, and killed pagans too if you wanna go by that logic.

Marquisal wrote:This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.

Rubbish.

We DO have permission to build mosques in ireland. For crying out loud Imam Ibrahim Noonan has good relations with the prime minister of ireland. Plus ireland is one that accepts refugees.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:24 pm
by Marquisal
Highever wrote:
Marquisal wrote:I would not condemn it because of the people, who still live with fear in our beautiful Europe, who feel betrayed by their government and their neighbours. My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.
This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.

So again, then you would be fine for Muslims in America attacking a methodist church if Christians in Africa did nothing other than build a church in a predominantly muslim area?


I defend te right to rule over the land that has given to you without caring on the people. If I were an inmigrant in Morocco I would not build a church without asking first their people if they accept it. For the same reason I do not defend people who build mosques without asking the people or the land they are migrating to.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:24 pm
by Farnhamia
Duhon wrote:
Marquisal wrote:Finally, a bit of decency.
The people will end this horrifying battle against itself, and it will end with it's victory!

DEUS VULT


Then, from one decent guy to another, heed my word:

This is wrong. This is wrong! THIS IS WRONG THIS IS WRONG THIS IS WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

YOU DO NOT BURN SHIT DOWN
YOU DO NOT CHEER ON WHEN SHIT BURNS DOWN
YOU DO NOT CHASE AFTER PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING TO YOU
YOU DO NOT MAIM THEM
YOU DO NOT KILL THEM
IF YOU KNOW DECENCY YOU WOULD KNOW THAT
WHY ARE YOU ALL SO FUCKING DIFFICULT
WHY DO YOU INSIST ON BEING FUCKING STUPID
YOU ARE NOT FUCKING STUPID
YOU ARE NOT
YOU ARE NOT
STOP IT

*** Warned for flaming. ***

Seriously, when you are that upset, step away from the keyboard and go get some air. You know better.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:25 pm
by Highever
Marquisal wrote:
Highever wrote:And your reasoning only further points to hateful, ignorant and bigoted nonsense, as you somehow approve of terrorizing and attacking Amahdiyya Muslims in Ireland because completely unrelated Salafist extremists in other countries are hurting Christians. By this logic, it is fine to attack a Methodist church in Iowa because of the actions of the LRA.


Please do not lack me respect, because I have not lacked respect to you.
And please, do not say that I support attacking muslims because the only thing I am doing is not condemning some vandalism.

I am not disrespecting you by calling out your BS argument by using your own logic against you. Sorry if you feel that is the case.

Except you are absolutely supporting an attack on muslims through seeing this as a good thing. Is that really so difficult for you to understand?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:25 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Marquisal wrote:
Highever wrote:So again, then you would be fine for Muslims in America attacking a methodist church if Christians in Africa did nothing other than build a church in a predominantly muslim area?


I defend te right to rule over the land that has given to you without caring on the people. If I were an inmigrant in Morocco I would not build a church without asking first their people if they accept it. For the same reason I do not defend people who build mosques without asking the people or the land they are migrating to.


They didn't just build the mosque without asking for a building permit.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:26 pm
by Highever
Marquisal wrote:
Highever wrote:So again, then you would be fine for Muslims in America attacking a methodist church if Christians in Africa did nothing other than build a church in a predominantly muslim area?


I defend te right to rule over the land that has given to you without caring on the people. If I were an inmigrant in Morocco I would not build a church without asking first their people if they accept it. For the same reason I do not defend people who build mosques without asking the people or the land they are migrating to.

Except we are not talking about you. Chrsitiains do not, and did not ask the native people in Africa if they could build missions and yet they still did and still do. So in your logic, if Muslims attacked a completely unrelated christian church because a different denomination built a church in a muslim country, they would be justified.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:26 pm
by Marquisal
Jolthig wrote:
Marquisal wrote:My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.

Yet, your people also took land from pagans, and killed pagans too if you wanna go by that logic.

Marquisal wrote:This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.

Rubbish.

We DO have permission to build mosques in ireland. For crying out loud Imam Ibrahim Noonan has good relations with the prime minister of ireland. Plus ireland is one that accepts refugees.


A Prime Minister is not the same as the people. Maybe they have voted their party, but that does not mean that the people of Ireland should not have any right to determinate what should be done in their land. If they were so happy with mosques beeing built randomly in their country, things like this would not happen.
Also I will tell you the same thing that I have told another person, please do not lack me respect, do not say that what I am saying if rubish because I am reading your arguments, and evaluating them, while answering them with respect. I ask you the same thing.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:27 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Yeah, he's a closet national socialist.

I get that the terms racist and bigot have been worn out and you're trying to distance yourself from them, but there are more tenants to National Socialism than "bigotry" and "xenophobia."

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:27 pm
by Highever
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
I defend te right to rule over the land that has given to you without caring on the people. If I were an inmigrant in Morocco I would not build a church without asking first their people if they accept it. For the same reason I do not defend people who build mosques without asking the people or the land they are migrating to.


They didn't just build the mosque without asking for a building permit.

Evidently they think that buildings are only built after everyone is polled in a democratic process on whether they want it or not. :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:28 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Marquisal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Yet, your people also took land from pagans, and killed pagans too if you wanna go by that logic.


Rubbish.

We DO have permission to build mosques in ireland. For crying out loud Imam Ibrahim Noonan has good relations with the prime minister of ireland. Plus ireland is one that accepts refugees.


A Prime Minister is not the same as the people. Maybe they have voted their party, but that does not mean that the people of Ireland should not have any right to determinate what should be done in their land. If they were so happy with mosques beeing built randomly in their country, things like this would not happen.
Also I will tell you the same thing that I have told another person, please do not lack me respect, do not say that what I am saying if rubish because I am reading your arguments, and evaluating them, while answering them with respect. I ask you the same thing.


Again, this mosque was built with a permit granted by the city of Galway. This act of vandalizing has nothing to do with that.

Them windmills...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:28 pm
by Marquisal
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
Please do not lack me respect, because I have not lacked respect to you.
And please, do not say that I support attacking muslims because the only thing I am doing is not condemning some vandalism.


Marquisal wrote:I would not condemn it because of the people, who still live with fear in our beautiful Europe, who feel betrayed by their government and their neighbours. My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.
This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.


Yes, yes you did.


That is not lacking respect...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:29 pm
by Highever
Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


Yes, yes you did.

Pretty sure they are talking about you trying to deny supporting attacking the mosque when you are quite blatantly doing exactly that.
That is not lacking respect...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:29 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Highever wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
They didn't just build the mosque without asking for a building permit.

Evidently they think that buildings are only built after everyone is polled in a democratic process on whether they want it or not. :roll:


I know, right. They just took the land for the kingdom of Spain. No prior permits. Nothing.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm
by Necroghastia
Marquisal wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Yet, your people also took land from pagans, and killed pagans too if you wanna go by that logic.


Rubbish.

We DO have permission to build mosques in ireland. For crying out loud Imam Ibrahim Noonan has good relations with the prime minister of ireland. Plus ireland is one that accepts refugees.


A Prime Minister is not the same as the people. Maybe they have voted their party, but that does not mean that the people of Ireland should not have any right to determinate what should be done in their land. If they were so happy with mosques beeing built randomly in their country, things like this would not happen.
Also I will tell you the same thing that I have told another person, please do not lack me respect, do not say that what I am saying if rubish because I am reading your arguments, and evaluating them, while answering them with respect. I ask you the same thing.


Do you even have a source that the majority of people in Ireland have a problem with mosques? If not, then you should really reconsider your stance.

And again, unless building permits don't exist there, it wasn't "built randomly."

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm
by Highever
Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


Yes, yes you did.


That is not lacking respect...

Pretty sure they are talking about you trying to deny supporting attacking the mosque when you are quite blatantly doing exactly that.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm
by Marquisal
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
A Prime Minister is not the same as the people. Maybe they have voted their party, but that does not mean that the people of Ireland should not have any right to determinate what should be done in their land. If they were so happy with mosques beeing built randomly in their country, things like this would not happen.
Also I will tell you the same thing that I have told another person, please do not lack me respect, do not say that what I am saying if rubish because I am reading your arguments, and evaluating them, while answering them with respect. I ask you the same thing.


Again, this mosque was built with a permit granted by the city of Galway. This act of vandalizing has nothing to do with that.

Them windmills...


The mayor and his government can grant permissions, but people have not been asked, only the government has been asked.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


Yes, yes you did.


That is not lacking respect...


Did you or did you not say you do not condemn the vandalizing of the mosque? You did. Read you own posts.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm
by Necroghastia
Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Again, this mosque was built with a permit granted by the city of Galway. This act of vandalizing has nothing to do with that.

Them windmills...


The mayor and his government can grant permissions, but people have not been asked, only the government has been asked.


The government which is meant to represent the people.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm
by Marquisal
Highever wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
That is not lacking respect...

Pretty sure they are talking about you trying to deny supporting attacking the mosque when you are quite blatantly doing exactly that.


I have never denyed my support where have you found that denyal?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:31 pm
by Marquisal
Necroghastia wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
The mayor and his government can grant permissions, but people have not been asked, only the government has been asked.


The government which is meant to represent the people.


Yeah, it is meant to do that.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:31 pm
by Highever
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Highever wrote:Evidently they think that buildings are only built after everyone is polled in a democratic process on whether they want it or not. :roll:


I know, right. They just took the land for the kingdom of Spain. No prior permits. Nothing.

Well the city recently built up this ghastly storage building where a malt shop used to be when I was a kid. I didn't consent to that! I now have the right to vandalize it!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:31 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Again, this mosque was built with a permit granted by the city of Galway. This act of vandalizing has nothing to do with that.

Them windmills...


The mayor and his government can grant permissions, but people have not been asked, only the government has been asked.


Do you have any idea how the granting of building permits is done or are you going to keep attacking them windmills because you think they are giants?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:31 pm
by Necroghastia
Marquisal wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
The government which is meant to represent the people.


Yeah, it is meant to do that.


So what is your problem?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:32 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Highever wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I know, right. They just took the land for the kingdom of Spain. No prior permits. Nothing.

Well the city recently built up this ghastly storage building where a malt shop used to be when I was a kid. I didn't consent to that! I now have the right to vandalize it!


Deploy your Sharpies.