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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm

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Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Speaking about the Mosque, can you somehow tie this incident of religious violence to the triumph of the proletariat?


Another victory of the masses against an ideology that advocates autocracy and religious genocide...


Source that the Ahmadis advocate that, then.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:25 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I disagree.

I used to be somewhat of a moderate social conservative, then a socialist in my younger years, but as I got more educated, I mellowed out and developed what I consider a moderate yet very progressive worldview.

Often you see similar things occur to other would-be extremists.

It may not destroy extremism altogether but the classes combined will make it harder for them to gain a leading voice.


I think most of us had some kind of ideological ride included.

But what stops us from falling to extremism is, ideally, having fundamental principles of what is right and wrong.

Usually extremism comes with his own twisted principles in those regards. If we do not have a solid foundations, we can get overtaken by those ideologies regardless if we carry alot of abstract wiki knowledge with us. For it cannot replace wisdom and foundations.

I believe in this specific case its that people in general (regardless of religion) need to learn to let other people be, and that doing so is a necessarity in everyones interest.
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Postby Lapathiya » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:25 pm

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Right, so how is judicial punishment by will of the 99% mass murder? Plus Islamists are the biggest mass murderers of all time. Except maybe for the Mongols and socialist autocrats like Stalin.

How odd that you fail to condemn Nazis...

Yet you mention the more obscurized Mongols.


Right, Nazis were VERY bad as well. I mean, 6 million is horrible, but compared to 15 million Spanish Christians alone in medieval times, the Nazis were pretty amateur compared to the Caliphate. And I mean, if I were to list every single evil ideology, we’d be here all day long. But of course I hate Nazis.

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Postby Highever » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:26 pm

Greater Kongo-Zaire wrote:
Highever wrote:One: Doing whatever you please to others without consequence is not at all what llibertarianism is about, and seconf it is pretty hard to take you seriously when you try to advocate mass murder of everyone based on qualifiers while trying to also say that you should love your neighbor.


Right, so how is judicial punishment by will of the 99% mass murder? Plus Islamists are the biggest mass murderers of all time. Except maybe for the Mongol Khans and socialist autocrats like Stalin.

I am pretty sure you are not going to get 99% of people to reach a unanimous consensus on who to murder and for what, but keep telling yourself that. Hell, most of them are not even going to support the mass killing of people by arbitrary qualifications to begin with.

Saying "well hey at least were not two of the biggest mass murderers of all time!" as your defense is really not a good look.
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Postby Lapathiya » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:28 pm

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Greater Kongo-Zaire wrote:
Right, so how is judicial punishment by will of the 99% mass murder? Plus Islamists are the biggest mass murderers of all time. Except maybe for the Mongol Khans and socialist autocrats like Stalin.

I am pretty sure you are not going to get 99% of people to reach a unanimous consensus on who to murder and for what, but keep telling yourself that. Hell, most of them are not even going to support the mass killing of people by arbitrary qualifications to begin with.

Saying "well hey at least were not two of the biggest mass murderers of all time!" as your defense is really not a good look.


K, so it’s all right to murder, but then to not get punished for it? It’s totally fine to starve people, but if someone mentions retaliation, OH NO! That’s bad? Bull crap.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:28 pm

Greater Kongo-Zaire wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Speaking about the Mosque, can you somehow tie this incident of religious violence to the triumph of the proletariat?


Another victory of the masses against an ideology that advocates autocracy and religious genocide...


I wish I could say that this shitty attitude right here^ is surprising me. It isn't and perhaps I should be worried. Smh.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:29 pm

Lapathiya wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:How odd that you fail to condemn Nazis...

Yet you mention the more obscurized Mongols.


Right, Nazis were VERY bad as well. I mean, 6 million is horrible, but compared to 15 million Spanish Christians alone in medieval times, the Nazis were pretty amateur compared to the Caliphate. And I mean, if I were to list every single evil ideology, we’d be here all day long. But of course I hate Nazis.

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You do realize that the 6 million number is Jews alone right? Also why are you comparing killing numbers?
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Postby Marquisal » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:29 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Greater Kongo-Zaire wrote:
Right, so how is judicial punishment by will of the 99% mass murder? Plus Islamists are the biggest mass murderers of all time. Except maybe for the Mongols and socialist autocrats like Stalin.

How odd that you fail to condemn Nazis...

Yet you mention the more obscurized Mongols.


Stalin and Gengis Kan killed much more people than the nazis, so it is easy to forget them.
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Postby Highever » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:32 pm

Lapathiya wrote:
Highever wrote:I am pretty sure you are not going to get 99% of people to reach a unanimous consensus on who to murder and for what, but keep telling yourself that. Hell, most of them are not even going to support the mass killing of people by arbitrary qualifications to begin with.

Saying "well hey at least were not two of the biggest mass murderers of all time!" as your defense is really not a good look.


K, so it’s all right to murder, but then to not get punished for it? It’s totally fine to starve people, but if someone mentions retaliation, OH NO! That’s bad? Bull crap.

Considering you are advocating indiscriminate and arbitrary justice without any sort of concern of actually punishing people who have done wrong and just casting a wide net, yeah it is pretty bad. Collective punishment is generally not looked at in a positive light. Not really that difficult to understand.
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Postby Highever » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:32 pm

Marquisal wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:How odd that you fail to condemn Nazis...

Yet you mention the more obscurized Mongols.


Stalin and Gengis Kan killed much more people than the nazis, so it is easy to forget them.

Did....did you really just say that one of the most infamous ideologies to ever exist and the perpetrators of one of the most horrific events in human history are easy to forget? Fucking...seriously?
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Postby Cerinda » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:33 pm

Marquisal wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:How odd that you fail to condemn Nazis...

Yet you mention the more obscurized Mongols.


Stalin and Gengis Kan killed much more people than the nazis, so it is easy to forget them.

No it's not.
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Postby Highever » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:33 pm

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Lapathiya wrote:
Right, Nazis were VERY bad as well. I mean, 6 million is horrible, but compared to 15 million Spanish Christians alone in medieval times, the Nazis were pretty amateur compared to the Caliphate. And I mean, if I were to list every single evil ideology, we’d be here all day long. But of course I hate Nazis.

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You do realize that the 6 million number is Jews alone right? Also why are you comparing killing numbers?

Because that way their nonsense idea of just killing anyone they don't like seems somehow much better in comparison, or something.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:34 pm

Highever wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:You do realize that the 6 million number is Jews alone right? Also why are you comparing killing numbers?

Because that way their nonsense idea of just killing anyone they don't like seems somehow much better in comparison, or something.


It's a perfect illustration of what happened at this Galway mosque.
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Postby Marquisal » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:38 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Highever wrote:Because that way their nonsense idea of just killing anyone they don't like seems somehow much better in comparison, or something.


It's a perfect illustration of what happened at this Galway mosque.


Nobody has been killed there :ugeek:
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...
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Postby Highever » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:38 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Highever wrote:Because that way their nonsense idea of just killing anyone they don't like seems somehow much better in comparison, or something.


It's a perfect illustration of what happened at this Galway mosque.

Well in this instance at least, thankfully no one was killed.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:39 pm

Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's a perfect illustration of what happened at this Galway mosque.


Nobody has been killed there :ugeek:
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...


And why was this place vandalized? Hm? Because it's the place of worship of a group of people that's not liked. And why do you think some murder groups of people?
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Postby Highever » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:39 pm

Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's a perfect illustration of what happened at this Galway mosque.


Nobody has been killed there :ugeek:
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...

Between the kill numbers of others to dismiss the Holocaust and now saying "well it least it wasn't murder" so it isn't a bad thing, I am beginning to notice a trend.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:40 pm

Marquisal wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's a perfect illustration of what happened at this Galway mosque.


Nobody has been killed there :ugeek:
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...

So I will ask again, why are you talking about how many people a certain ideology has killed?
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Postby Marquisal » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:41 pm

Highever wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
Nobody has been killed there :ugeek:
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...

Between the kill numbers of others to dismiss the Holocaust and now saying "well it least it wasn't murder" so it isn't a bad thing, I am beginning to notice a trend.


I have never justified Holocaust, I was just saying that it's not something I often think about.
What trend? OMG I am opposed to murder, there is no trend in that
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:41 pm

That's terrible. At least no one was harmed, I guess?
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Postby Marquisal » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:42 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Highever wrote:Between the kill numbers of others to dismiss the Holocaust and now saying "well it least it wasn't murder" so it isn't a bad thing, I am beginning to notice a trend.

Indeed.

He may be a closet National Socialist.


I am not National Socialist, Holocaust was disgusting as well as all murderers of the history of humanity.
How can you say that horrific thing without even talking to me to check if what you think is true or not??
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Postby Highever » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:43 pm

Marquisal wrote:
Highever wrote:Between the kill numbers of others to dismiss the Holocaust and now saying "well it least it wasn't murder" so it isn't a bad thing, I am beginning to notice a trend.


I have never justified Holocaust, I was just saying that it's not something I often think about.
What trend? OMG I am opposed to murder, there is no trend in that

Notice I did not say you justified it. Just dismissed it. And that would be the trend of trying to dismiss things by constantly bringing up worse things and trying to using the fact that worse things happen to dismiss other things, such as what you are doing with the vandalism of the mosque.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:44 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
Nobody has been killed there :ugeek:
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...

So I will ask again, why are you talking about how many people a certain ideology has killed?

Indeed. Ranking the awfulness of ideologies is neither a productive task nor a relevant one.
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Postby Marquisal » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:45 pm

Highever wrote:
Marquisal wrote:
I have never justified Holocaust, I was just saying that it's not something I often think about.
What trend? OMG I am opposed to murder, there is no trend in that

Notice I did not say you justified it. Just dismissed it. And that would be the trend of trying to dismiss things by constantly bringing up worse things and trying to using the fact that worse things happen to dismiss other things, such as what you are doing with the vandalism of the mosque.


I could also say that talking about Holocaust and murder in a topic that talks about mere vandalism is also dismissing.
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