Mosque in Galway vandalised in early morning attack

[Highever]

Notice I did not say you justified it. Just dismissed it. And that would be the trend of trying to dismiss things by constantly bringing up worse things and trying to using the fact that worse things happen to dismiss other things, such as what you are doing with the vandalism of the mosque.

I could also say that talking about Holocaust and murder in a topic that talks about mere vandalism is also dismissing.

Thank you for proving my point yet again.

[Marquisal]

Nobody has been killed there
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...

So I will ask again, why are you talking about how many people a certain ideology has killed?

Sorry if you have asked me other times, I have not seen that.
Answer: Because inside the post I was answering a question that was, a bit outside the post, but still linked to it by the intollerance.

[Marquisal]

I could also say that talking about Holocaust and murder in a topic that talks about mere vandalism is also dismissing.

No, for the poster mentioned the Mongols and Stalinists in bad genocides but failed to mention the Holocaust-which coincidentally is what Anti-Semites do, who sympathize with the Holocaust. How could he have forgotten THE definitive genocide?

Oh, you are right, I forgot Mao Tse Tung, which was truly THE definitive genocide.
Again, you are right.

[Highever]

No, for the poster mentioned the Mongols and Stalinists in bad genocides but failed to mention the Holocaust-which coincidentally is what Anti-Semites do, who sympathize with the Holocaust. How could he have forgotten THE definitive genocide?

Oh, you are right, I forgot Mao Tse Tung, which was truly THE definitive genocide.
Again, you are right.

Considering the word genocide was only coined in 1948 to describe the Holocaust, you are objectively wrong in saying that the Chinese genocide was the definitive one.

[Neutraligon]

No, for the poster mentioned the Mongols and Stalinists in bad genocides but failed to mention the Holocaust-which coincidentally is what Anti-Semites do, who sympathize with the Holocaust. How could he have forgotten THE definitive genocide?

Oh, you are right, I forgot Mao Tse Tung, which was truly THE definitive genocide.
Again, you are right.

Connect this with the topic, otherwise this is threadjacking.

[Cerinda]

Indeed.

He may be a closet National Socialist.

I am not National Socialist.

Press X to doubt.

[Marquisal]

Oh, you are right, I forgot Mao Tse Tung, which was truly THE definitive genocide.
Again, you are right.

Connect this with the topic, otherwise this is threadjacking.

You are right.
This topic has moved to a different topic becouse of me and some people talking about genocide... I wish we could return to the main topic again for me to "start again" in a better way, as I intended then...

[Highever]

Connect this with the topic, otherwise this is threadjacking.

You are right.
This topic has moved to a different topic becouse of me and some people talking about genocide... I wish we could return to the main topic again for me to "start again" in a better way, as I intended then...

This started because you seem to be continually dismissive of the vandalism by constantly bringing up worse things in comparison and therefore trying to make this appear as a nonissue. Why are these your thoughts regarding the event?

[Extreme Sweden]

You are right.
This topic has moved to a different topic becouse of me and some people talking about genocide... I wish we could return to the main topic again for me to "start again" in a better way, as I intended then...

This started because you seem to be continually dismissive of the vandalism by constantly bringing up worse things in comparison and therefore trying to make this appear as a nonissue. Why are these your thoughts regarding the event?

Vandalism is an issue, but an small one. When we are talking about this kind of vandalism, while getting really upset of it because supposedly it has been Christians who commited this (There are no proof of it) someone like me can also talk about other attacks on religions like mine, while talking about the history surrounding the event, and why does the people commit this kind of vandalism.

[Marquisal]

This started because you seem to be continually dismissive of the vandalism by constantly bringing up worse things in comparison and therefore trying to make this appear as a nonissue. Why are these your thoughts regarding the event?

Vandalism is an issue, but an small one. When we are talking about this kind of vandalism, while getting really upset of it because supposedly it has been Christians who commited this (There are no proof of it) someone like me can also talk about other attacks on religions like mine, while talking about the history surrounding the event, and why does the people commit this kind of vandalism.

This post is mine, I do not know why sometimes I post with one nation or another.

[Highever]

This started because you seem to be continually dismissive of the vandalism by constantly bringing up worse things in comparison and therefore trying to make this appear as a nonissue. Why are these your thoughts regarding the event?

Vandalism is an issue, but an small one. When we are talking about this kind of vandalism, while getting really upset of it because supposedly it has been Christians who committed this (There are no proof of it) someone like me can also talk about other attacks on religions like mine, while talking about the history surrounding the event, and why does the people commit this kind of vandalism.

Odd that you are suddenly backtracking and saying it was not Christians that did this when you made the opposite assumption earlier in the thread. In fact, I am pretty sure the only people who immediately said that it was Christians were those celebrating it and eagerly wanting it to be Christians, not those that are understandably upset by this act.

You seem to focusing completely on the act itself and not the motivations and reasons behind the "mere" vandalism, which is actually what people are upset about.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Vandalism is an issue, but an small one. When we are talking about this kind of vandalism, while getting really upset of it because supposedly it has been Christians who committed this (There are no proof of it) someone like me can also talk about other attacks on religions like mine, while talking about the history surrounding the event, and why does the people commit this kind of vandalism.

Odd that you are suddenly backtracking and saying it was not Christians that did this when you made the opposite assumption earlier in the thread. In fact, I am pretty sure the only people who immediately said that it was Christians were those celebrating it and eagerly wanting it to be Christians, not those that are understandably upset by this act.

You seem to focusing completely on the act itself and not the motivations and reasons behind the "mere" vandalism, which is actually what people are upset about.

Quite. This vandalism carries several connotations and it's not just ''a mere'' event. The reasoning behind it is what upsets people. What this could escalate to too.

[Marquisal]

Vandalism is an issue, but an small one. When we are talking about this kind of vandalism, while getting really upset of it because supposedly it has been Christians who committed this (There are no proof of it) someone like me can also talk about other attacks on religions like mine, while talking about the history surrounding the event, and why does the people commit this kind of vandalism.

Odd that you are suddenly backtracking and saying it was not Christians that did this when you made the opposite assumption earlier in the thread. In fact, I am pretty sure the only people who immediately said that it was Christians were those celebrating it and eagerly wanting it to be Christians, not those that are understandably upset by this act.

You seem to focusing completely on the act itself and not the motivations and reasons behind the "mere" vandalism, which is actually what people are upset about.

Two things:

1- I have focused on why could Christians have attacked islam in this way previously.

2- Nobody has seemed it, the most probable option is that Christians have done it (Which I do not condemn) but it could have been anybody, maybe it was some vandal doing his things on a building without noticing it was a mosque (Not very probable, but still possible) Or it could have even been some progresists or muslims trying to make Christians look as if they have done that.
I do not know, you neither, only the police and the people who have commited this crime can know it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Odd that you are suddenly backtracking and saying it was not Christians that did this when you made the opposite assumption earlier in the thread. In fact, I am pretty sure the only people who immediately said that it was Christians were those celebrating it and eagerly wanting it to be Christians, not those that are understandably upset by this act.

You seem to focusing completely on the act itself and not the motivations and reasons behind the "mere" vandalism, which is actually what people are upset about.

Two things:

1- I have focused on why could Christians have attacked islam in this way previously.

2- Nobody has seemed it, the most probable option is that Christians have done it (Which I do not condemn) but it could have been anybody, maybe it was some vandal doing his things on a building without noticing it was a mosque (Not very probable, but still possible) Or it could have even been some progresists or muslims trying to make Christians look as if they have done that.
I do not know, you neither, only the police and the people who have commited this crime can know it.

Let me get this straight because English doesn't seem to be your first language and I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but, am I right in assuming that, as per your post, you do not condemn the acts of the vandals (be them Christian- which we do not know if they are, or not)?

[Necroghastia]

Odd that you are suddenly backtracking and saying it was not Christians that did this when you made the opposite assumption earlier in the thread. In fact, I am pretty sure the only people who immediately said that it was Christians were those celebrating it and eagerly wanting it to be Christians, not those that are understandably upset by this act.

You seem to focusing completely on the act itself and not the motivations and reasons behind the "mere" vandalism, which is actually what people are upset about.

Two things:

1- I have focused on why could Christians have attacked islam in this way previously.

2- Nobody has seemed it, the most probable option is that Christians have done it (Which I do not condemn) but it could have been anybody, maybe it was some vandal doing his things on a building without noticing it was a mosque (Not very probable, but still possible) Or it could have even been some progresists or muslims trying to make Christians look as if they have done that.
I do not know, you neither, only the police and the people who have commited this crime can know it.

Why in the world would you not condemn this senseless crime if it was done by Christians?

[Jolthig]

It's a perfect illustration of what happened at this Galway mosque.

Nobody has been killed there
For God's sake, it was mere vandalism not murder...

Why is murder not okay, but vandalism is? Damaging someone's property is not right.

[Highever]

Odd that you are suddenly backtracking and saying it was not Christians that did this when you made the opposite assumption earlier in the thread. In fact, I am pretty sure the only people who immediately said that it was Christians were those celebrating it and eagerly wanting it to be Christians, not those that are understandably upset by this act.

You seem to focusing completely on the act itself and not the motivations and reasons behind the "mere" vandalism, which is actually what people are upset about.

Two things:

1- I have focused on why could Christians have attacked islam in this way previously.

2- Nobody has seemed it, the most probable option is that Christians have done it (Which I do not condemn) but it could have been anybody, maybe it was some vandal doing his things on a building without noticing it was a mosque (Not very probable, but still possible) Or it could have even been some progresists or muslims trying to make Christians look as if they have done that.
I do not know, you neither, only the police and the people who have commited this crime can know it.

And your reasoning only further points to hateful, ignorant and bigoted nonsense, as you somehow approve of terrorizing and attacking Amahdiyya Muslims in Ireland because completely unrelated Salafist extremists in other countries are hurting Christians. By this logic, it is fine to attack a Methodist church in Iowa because of the actions of the LRA.

[Jolthig]

Odd that you are suddenly backtracking and saying it was not Christians that did this when you made the opposite assumption earlier in the thread. In fact, I am pretty sure the only people who immediately said that it was Christians were those celebrating it and eagerly wanting it to be Christians, not those that are understandably upset by this act.

You seem to focusing completely on the act itself and not the motivations and reasons behind the "mere" vandalism, which is actually what people are upset about.

Two things:

1- I have focused on why could Christians have attacked islam in this way previously.

2- Nobody has seemed it, the most probable option is that Christians have done it (Which I do not condemn) but it could have been anybody, maybe it was some vandal doing his things on a building without noticing it was a mosque (Not very probable, but still possible) Or it could have even been some progresists or muslims trying to make Christians look as if they have done that.
I do not know, you neither, only the police and the people who have commited this crime can know it.

You do realize that while you are defaming Islam, you are also defaming Christianity too? You do know that, right?

[Highever]

Two things:

1- I have focused on why could Christians have attacked islam in this way previously.

2- Nobody has seemed it, the most probable option is that Christians have done it (Which I do not condemn) but it could have been anybody, maybe it was some vandal doing his things on a building without noticing it was a mosque (Not very probable, but still possible) Or it could have even been some progresists or muslims trying to make Christians look as if they have done that.
I do not know, you neither, only the police and the people who have commited this crime can know it.

You do realize that while you are defaming Islam, you are also defaming Christianity too? You do know that, right?

Yelling praise to god in a different language in celebration of violence is okay when WE do it!

[Jolthig]

You do realize that while you are defaming Islam, you are also defaming Christianity too? You do know that, right?

Yelling praise to god in a different language in celebration of violence is okay when WE do it!

But that's different!

[Marquisal]

I would not condemn it because of the people, who still live with fear in our beautiful Europe, who feel betrayed by their government and their neighbours. My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.
This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I would not condemn it because of the people, who still live with fear in our beautiful Europe, who feel betrayed by their government and their neighbours. My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.
This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.

Oh, so it's bigotry and xenophobia. What a set of disgusting beliefs you have.

[Highever]

I would not condemn it because of the people, who still live with fear in our beautiful Europe, who feel betrayed by their government and their neighbours. My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.
This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.

So again, then you would be fine for Muslims in America attacking a Methodist church if Christians in Africa did nothing other than build a church in a predominantly muslim area? Because according to you they have justification based on the "logic" you are currently using.

[Marquisal]

Two things:

1- I have focused on why could Christians have attacked islam in this way previously.

2- Nobody has seemed it, the most probable option is that Christians have done it (Which I do not condemn) but it could have been anybody, maybe it was some vandal doing his things on a building without noticing it was a mosque (Not very probable, but still possible) Or it could have even been some progresists or muslims trying to make Christians look as if they have done that.
I do not know, you neither, only the police and the people who have commited this crime can know it.

And your reasoning only further points to hateful, ignorant and bigoted nonsense, as you somehow approve of terrorizing and attacking Amahdiyya Muslims in Ireland because completely unrelated Salafist extremists in other countries are hurting Christians. By this logic, it is fine to attack a Methodist church in Iowa because of the actions of the LRA.

Please do not lack me respect, because I have not lacked respect to you.
And please, do not say that I support attacking muslims because the only thing I am doing is not condemning some vandalism.

[Necroghastia]

I would not condemn it because of the people, who still live with fear in our beautiful Europe, who feel betrayed by their government and their neighbours. My people have built this land, and they built it by themselfs to the give it to his children. This means that we have the right of decieding who belongs to here or not. And anybody who wills to stay here, who is not from here, must respect us, and follow at least our most important concepts and way of life.
This means, that if they wanted to build a mosque, they should have asked the people first if they accept it or not, but if you build it without caring the opinion of the people who belong to that land, things like this will happen. And the people have the right to defend their land, and it is just in them the destiny of their property, their country, their heritage.

Unless building permits don't exist across the pond, it's a good bet that they did ask.