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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:00 am

Republican Trump of The USA wrote:
Tokora wrote:They leave NATO, sign a nonaggression pact with Russia,

I guess it would lead to World War 3

Who v who?
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Postby Highever » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:03 am

Republican Trump of The USA wrote:The US could take over the world under a democratic government and govern them with ethnic Europeans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders, African Americans, Arabs and Muslims, and collaborator supporters in those nations, many of which would be relatives of those Americans, not under a nationalist fascist type government.

That is what the USA should have done to Europe after World War II.

Yeah no thanks. What glaring contradictions we have here too.
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Postby Republican Trump of The USA » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:04 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Republican Trump of The USA wrote:I guess it would lead to World War 3

Who v who?

lol, you got me there, good point.

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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:48 pm

Its bad for business. US corporations would use there connections to stop something like this from happening. Around 40% of Mexican imports come from the US. Mexican companies also have investments in the US. Has for the US using nuclear weapons on Mexico, the US, Russia, China, UK, France and the nations from Mexico down to Argentina including the Caribbean signed the treaty of Tlatelolco which prohibits the stationing, storage, development, manufacturing and use of nuclear weapons.
This on that treaty - https://www.nti.org/learn/treaties-and- ... co-treaty/

You break that treaty you would have 33 nations become Nuclear powers overnight via other nations stationing there nuclear weapons in those nations.

Any attack on Mexico would really activate Mexican nationalism. Mexico of the 21 century is not the Mexico of the 19 century which was much more divided. Chances are they would work together with US groups that are anti-dictatorship.

This is what an invader of Mexico would meet up with - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnbWlBOIs1s :o
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:51 pm

A lot of countries and people already believe the US to be a rogue state, so I doubt much would actually change.
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Postby Tokora » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:12 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:If the US is a rogue state then it's the good kind of rogue, like the cop who doesn't play by the book but gets results.

As much as I agree that dictators do hide behind international law a lot of the time, our antics in Iran and South America show why it exists in the first place (not that the US, China, Russia would ever care).

Republican Trump of The USA wrote:I think, The USA would eventually invade Europe and make them US States, including Russia, and govern them with ethnic European Americans and European collaborator supporters.

While I do see a Euro-American war as a possibility here, the point of invading Mexico was exterminating a source of immigrants rather than any equally insane "take over the world" agenda.

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I’m sure you’ll do great against this fantasy, illogical regime.

What makes you so sure he's planning to fight against it?

The New California Republic wrote:Not really. It says the US has gone rogue, not that there has been some time warping back to 1945...

He's correct.

Totally Not OEP wrote:I'm not exactly sure what the OP is asking; if the question is that of what can be done about the U.S. becoming a Rightist power, nothing can be. Too much of the global GDP and firepower is there.

That is almost exactly what I was asking, and (unfortunately) you're probably right.

New haven america wrote:A lot of countries and people already believe the US to be a rogue state, so I doubt much would actually change.

To everyone that does believe the US is a rogue state (not that Trump is in any way helping our image), just think of the scenario along the lines of "This is low, even for you".

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Postby Tokora » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:51 pm

At least this lasted longer than a day.

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