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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:27 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I don't really even like those terms although they're more accurate. There's a big cultural difference between Europeans and people in America of European descent, and Americans of African heritage are also very culturally different from africans. Black American culture is a very American heritage and has been separate from Africa for hundreds of years.

Really, anyone in america is just american. We do culturally differ somewhat but we have more in common with each other than with the people in places we came from


US Black "culture" and ebonics are ultimately offshoots of southern US white "culture" and parlances. Their vocabulary is roughly 90% the same.

Also, shouldn't "American" be exclusively applied to the indigenous people? After all, the term was originally of a continental context, and chiefly to it's pre-colonial inhabitants. Still is in the Romance languages regarding the former.


Old southern English actually sounded extremely similar to Black American english. If you listen to old recordings of someone speaking it or watch a tv show about some dude from the south in the 1800s like Andrew jackson, you'll notice the similarities. Black American english in the northeast has changed someone due to influence from other dialects of English but in the south, especially among older folks, it sounds exactly like the dialect of English that white southerners used to speak up until the 20th century.

Here's an example from a recent film of old southern english: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aQM4ebFILv4
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Postby Kubra » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:40 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m from Granada, on the Southern coast, right? Down here, the words Estadounidense (United Statesian) and Americano (American) are used interchangeably. The higher up you go on the social scale and the more educated people are, you hear the Estadounidense more. Indigenous Americans are called the same thing they were in the time of Columbus, that is to say, Indians.


Odd how the actual Indians and their civilizations were well-known around Europe, particularly in racial profiling. But thanks to Columbus, the term "dot or feather" was coined. Illiteracy and lack of education must've been frequent amongst sailors.

As for the demonyms, it's technically correct to refer to US people as "americans", but in a pars pro totum manner, not the inverse.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:51 am

Pacomia wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
US Black "culture" and ebonics are ultimately offshoots of southern US white "culture" and parlances. Their vocabulary is roughly 90% the same.

Also, shouldn't "American" be exclusively applied to the indigenous people? After all, the term was originally of a continental context, and chiefly to it's pre-colonial inhabitants. Still is in the Romance languages regarding the former.

“United Statesese” just doesn’t sound as good, you know?


And can also refer to Mexicans.
Then again, it is a bit silly that people from other countries on the American continents can not call themselves Americans without getting funny looks.
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Postby Auze » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:41 pm

Kowani wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
Odd how the actual Indians and their civilizations were well-known around Europe, particularly in racial profiling. But thanks to Columbus, the term "dot or feather" was coined. Illiteracy and lack of education must've been frequent amongst sailors.
Well, he thought he’d found India. India being so diverse, he probably thought he’d just run into another part of it.


It's less he thought he found India, and more he thought he found an undiscovered island off of Japan. Think where Micronesia or Melanesia are, and you get the idea of where he thought he was.
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