Classes on Islam should be mandatory, UK teachers say

[Cappuccina]

They almost always coincide, however.

It’s hard to not hate something that sold you a lie as truth, y’now.

The only lie is atheism.

Current year.


You don't believe in Jahannam anyways, why does something you believe isn't real worry you?

It worries us that people still think like this. Hell is a childish concept.

Perhaps how most envision it, yes. There are many interpretations of what Hell entails, and whether or not it's eternal.

[Rojava Free State]

It’s hard to not hate something that sold you a lie as truth, y’now.

The only lie is atheism.

Got proof your God exists?

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

It’s hard to not hate something that sold you a lie as truth, y’now.

The only lie is atheism.

It worries us that people still think like this. Hell is a childish concept.

Perhaps how most envision it, yes. There are many interpretations of what Hell entails, and whether or not it's eternal.

Atheism is not a truth statement, so it cannot be a lie.

The reason Hell is childish is because at its most basic, it’s a result of a child/parent dialectic. The parent knows best and punishes the child. The reasons the parent would send a child to Hell are dubious, but that’s not what matters, because it’s not about logic. It’s about fear.

[Blueflarst]

Parents should not be allowed to selectively remove their children from religious education (RE) lessons, headteachers say, as study reveals many withdrawal requests are over the teaching of Islam.

More than two in five school leaders and RE teachers have received requests for students to be withdrawn from teaching about one religion, research from Liverpool Hope University has revealed.

I have to agree with the teachers, if LGBT classes are mandatory, why not classes on Islam?

Iman Atta, director of Tell Mama, an activist group which records and measures anti-Muslim incidents in Britain, told The Independent: “We have been hearing about cases where parents are pulling their children out of mosque visits as part of religious education since they do not want them to be near a mosque.

“This has been taking place over the last five years and shows that there are parents who have fears or dislike Islam. This is also concerning, since what kinds of views are their children being exposed to? It does not bode well for the future of people and communities living together”.

The right of parents to withdraw their children from RE and from collective worship has been in enshrined in law by both the 1944 and 1988 education acts. Parents can withdraw their children from some or all of the RE curriculum without giving a reason.

Teachers warned in April last year that parents were increasingly abusing the right to withdraw their children from religious education lessons due to their prejudices.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/educ ... 76366.html

So how should this be fixed? Children can't learn about Islam if parents refuse to let them. Should the law be changed? I think so and teachers agree.

I do not want your claases in islam i do not want lgbt classes catholic classes seem the way

[Fartsniffage]

The only lie is atheism.


Perhaps how most envision it, yes. There are many interpretations of what Hell entails, and whether or not it's eternal.

Atheism is not a truth statement, so it cannot be a lie.

The reason Hell is childish is because at its most basic, it’s a result of a child/parent dialectic. The parent knows best and punishes the child. The reasons the parent would send a child to Hell are dubious, but that’s not what matters, because it’s not about logic. It’s about fear.

It's also a fantastic example of do as I say, not as I do. God wipes out the vast majority of humanity, destroys cities, takes out all the first borns in Egypt not protected by blood magic. Totally fine. If I covet my neighbours ass then down to hell I go. It's paternalistic bullshit.

[Ayissor]

Atheism is not a truth statement, so it cannot be a lie.

The reason Hell is childish is because at its most basic, it’s a result of a child/parent dialectic. The parent knows best and punishes the child. The reasons the parent would send a child to Hell are dubious, but that’s not what matters, because it’s not about logic. It’s about fear.

It's also a fantastic example of do as I say, not as I do. God wipes out the vast majority of humanity, destroys cities, takes out all the first borns in Egypt not protected by blood magic. Totally fine. If I covet my neighbours ass then down to hell I go. It's paternalistic bullshit.

If judging deities was possible physically, god would be a class A warcriminal.

[Rojava Free State]

Atheism is not a truth statement, so it cannot be a lie.

The reason Hell is childish is because at its most basic, it’s a result of a child/parent dialectic. The parent knows best and punishes the child. The reasons the parent would send a child to Hell are dubious, but that’s not what matters, because it’s not about logic. It’s about fear.

It's also a fantastic example of do as I say, not as I do. God wipes out the vast majority of humanity, destroys cities, takes out all the first borns in Egypt not protected by blood magic. Totally fine. If I covet my neighbours ass then down to hell I go. It's paternalistic bullshit.

You coveted his what!?

Press F everybody

[Blueflarst]

Now in a serious approach no religious classes should be mandatory.
No LGTB classes should be existent
No atheism should be promoted
I propose an informative class with all religions and cultures and views showed to let people decide their faith

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Atheism is not a truth statement, so it cannot be a lie.

The reason Hell is childish is because at its most basic, it’s a result of a child/parent dialectic. The parent knows best and punishes the child. The reasons the parent would send a child to Hell are dubious, but that’s not what matters, because it’s not about logic. It’s about fear.

It's also a fantastic example of do as I say, not as I do. God wipes out the vast majority of humanity, destroys cities, takes out all the first borns in Egypt not protected by blood magic. Totally fine. If I covet my neighbours ass then down to hell I go. It's paternalistic bullshit.

If I covet my neighbor’s wife or my neighbor’s ass, to Hell with me, but the Bible doesn’t say anything about my neighbor’s wife’s ass.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Now in a serious approach no religious classes should be mandatory.
No LGTB classes should be existent
No atheism should be promoted
I propose an informative class with all religions and cultures and views showed to let people decide their faith

Enlightened centrism

[Ors Might]

Atheism is not a truth statement, so it cannot be a lie.

The reason Hell is childish is because at its most basic, it’s a result of a child/parent dialectic. The parent knows best and punishes the child. The reasons the parent would send a child to Hell are dubious, but that’s not what matters, because it’s not about logic. It’s about fear.

It's also a fantastic example of do as I say, not as I do. God wipes out the vast majority of humanity, destroys cities, takes out all the first borns in Egypt not protected by blood magic. Totally fine. If I covet my neighbours ass then down to hell I go. It's paternalistic bullshit.

I feel disturbed that my first thought reading this was “Dinkleburg..”

[Highever]

Now in a serious approach no religious classes should be mandatory.
No LGTB classes should be existent
No atheism should be promoted
I propose an informative class with all religions and cultures and views showed to let people decide their faith

Kind of a complete 180 from your post just a few above where you said your religion is the only one that should be taught and that the other person's is wrong, as well as saying in this post that people really can't choose their faith because lack of faith is out of the question. Sounds atrocious anyway.

[Risastorstein]

Iman Atta, director of Tell Mama, an activist group which records and measures anti-Muslim incidents in Britain, told The Independent: [...] “This has been taking place over the last five years and shows that there are parents who have fears or dislike Islam. This is also concerning, since what kinds of views are their children being exposed to? [...]”.

I'd say the most accurate views out there.

[Rojava Free State]

I'd say the most accurate views out there.

Sorry that people are afraid of a violent religion

[The New California Republic]

no religious classes should be mandatory.
No LGTB classes should be existent

So one is allowed to exist, and the other isn't? I'd hardly call that fair or justified.

No atheism should be promoted

Where is it being promoted in this context? Tilting at windmills methinks.

[Risastorstein]

Why don't they have visits to Satanic temples too? UNFAIR.

[Fartsniffage]

Why don't they have visits to Satanic temples too? UNFAIR.

I'm not sure we have any in the UK...

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Why don't they have visits to Satanic temples too? UNFAIR.

I'm not sure we have any in the UK...

Then they’ll have to visit the US. It’s in the name of education. Don’t you know that theology and religion help with critical thinking skills?

[Risastorstein]

Why don't they have visits to Satanic temples too? UNFAIR.

I'm not sure we have any in the UK...

Hmmm, there are maybe hundreds of cults in the UK, we can find a great alternative.

[The New California Republic]

Why don't they have visits to Satanic temples too? UNFAIR.

I'm not sure we have any in the UK...

This seems to hint that there are:

The first chapter was established in Detroit, Michigan in 2014. The chapter went on hiatus in 2018. Also in 2018, chapters in Portland, Oregon, Los Angeles, California, and the UK seceded from the Satanic Temple over internal disputes with national leadership.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satan ... e#Chapters

I couldn't even begin to fathom where it is though.

[The Grims]

I'm not sure we have any in the UK...

This seems to hint that there are:

The first chapter was established in Detroit, Michigan in 2014. The chapter went on hiatus in 2018. Also in 2018, chapters in Portland, Oregon, Los Angeles, California, and the UK seceded from the Satanic Temple over internal disputes with national leadership.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satan ... e#Chapters

I couldn't even begin to fathom where it is though.

Nr 10 ?

[The New California Republic]

This seems to hint that there are:

I couldn't even begin to fathom where it is though.

Nr 10 ?

[The South Falls]

It’s hard to not hate something that sold you a lie as truth, y’now.

The only lie is atheism.

It worries us that people still think like this. Hell is a childish concept.

Perhaps how most envision it, yes. There are many interpretations of what Hell entails, and whether or not it's eternal.

Religion and atheism are all people's personal truths.

[The Alma Mater]

Atheism does not entail hating religion.

They almost always coincide, however.

Nah, that is antitheism. Most atheist simply do not care.

[Nova Cyberia]

They almost always coincide, however.

Nah, that is antitheism. Most atheist simply do not care.

It depends. There are a lot of atheists out there who are a bit, shall we say, overeager to dab on religious people and tell them how stupid they are for believing in such things.

Obviously this is not all or even most atheists. But it is a lot.