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Postby Ors Might » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:29 am

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Saciu wrote:I could come up with some disgusting quotes from the Bible. Fundamentalists of religions like Islam and Christianity are bad. I'm not defending those. Anyone who agrees with the quotes you mentioned can seriously go **** themselves - it's already led to enough suffering for minorities in the Middle East. I'm defending the Muslims who actually support equal rights and look past archaic, violent and sexist literature.

But as the world shows, it's a popular sport to lump them all in with ISIS. Wouldn't surprise me if there's support on the internet for what China and Myanmar is doing. Wouldn't surprise me if people are demanding Western nations do the same.

Mind showing us where we’ve called all Muslims part of ISIS? Cause I’m pretty sure we’ve all been criticizing the fundamentalist Muslims. Unless you believe that all Muslims support lashing the gays. In which case, yikes.
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Postby Highever » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:32 am

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Saciu wrote:I could come up with some disgusting quotes from the Bible. Fundamentalists of religions like Islam and Christianity are bad. I'm not defending those. Anyone who agrees with the quotes you mentioned can seriously go **** themselves - it's already led to enough suffering for minorities in the Middle East. I'm defending the Muslims who actually support equal rights and look past archaic, violent and sexist literature.

But as the world shows, it's a popular sport to lump them all in with ISIS. Wouldn't surprise me if there's support on the internet for what China and Myanmar is doing. Wouldn't surprise me if people are demanding Western nations do the same.

Except no one here as at all said anything like that, so I am not sure why you are bringing it up.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:33 am

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Gormwood wrote:But as the world shows, it's a popular sport to lump them all in with ISIS. Wouldn't surprise me if there's support on the internet for what China and Myanmar is doing. Wouldn't surprise me if people are demanding Western nations do the same.

Mind showing us where we’ve called all Muslims part of ISIS? Cause I’m pretty sure we’ve all been criticizing the fundamentalist Muslims. Unless you believe that all Muslims support lashing the gays. In which case, yikes.

Is this the part where you declare it never happens at all because nobody on this forum has been caught doing do?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:34 am

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Ors Might wrote:Mind showing us where we’ve called all Muslims part of ISIS? Cause I’m pretty sure we’ve all been criticizing the fundamentalist Muslims. Unless you believe that all Muslims support lashing the gays. In which case, yikes.

Is this the part where you declare it never happens at all because nobody on this forum has been caught doing do?


I don’t see him saying that either. He’s referring to this thread.
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Postby Ors Might » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:34 am

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Ors Might wrote:Mind showing us where we’ve called all Muslims part of ISIS? Cause I’m pretty sure we’ve all been criticizing the fundamentalist Muslims. Unless you believe that all Muslims support lashing the gays. In which case, yikes.

Is this the part where you declare it never happens at all because nobody on this forum has been caught doing do?

Is this the part where you provide evidence for your claims not from your rectum?
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:34 am

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Ors Might wrote:Mind showing us where we’ve called all Muslims part of ISIS? Cause I’m pretty sure we’ve all been criticizing the fundamentalist Muslims. Unless you believe that all Muslims support lashing the gays. In which case, yikes.

Is this the part where you declare it never happens at all because nobody on this forum has been caught doing do?

It’s irrelevant to the discussion if it isn’t being talked about here. It’s like the one guy who kept copypasting comments from Breitbart: nobody cares about internet opinions if they aren’t in this thread.
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Postby United States of Americanas » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:36 am

There’s a reason there’s a egalitarian level of dislike for religion on NSG. Not because of atheists, but because of how any religious discussion in a large public group of mixed people is guaranteed to cause chaos and discord and eventually lead to the thread getting locked & or deleted and many members warned for inappropriate conduct.

Religion is the worst topic you can discuss anywhere outside of a religious building.

I am a Unitarian Universalist/Christian/Jew and I have become more and more atheistic in the recent years the more I study these religions and what they preach. The Bible is insane and incompatible with the modern world and so is the Quran. The Torah too. Not one of these ancient books are functional in this day and age.

Again I will echo my sentiment for them as wonderful pieces of history for us to discover how life was then. But they are not viable to be used as law in any capacity. It’s why we have secular governments. God set the secular governments into motion.

Not even Christians of the fundamentalist sect can perfectly obey the Bible. Think about this, if you have a drivers license or you have ever taken a picture with a camera you have created a graven image. You watch TV? Great you’re sinning by viewing a graven image!

This is just one example of thousands displaying the Bible and all of these archaic laws as completely incompatible and then the hilarious thing is churches preach that people will die and be tortured in hell for all eternity if they are sinful.

Even if you’ve never used a TV or camera you’ve surely had to use cash which is a graven image of a dead president.

Have you ever had to take medicine? The Bible refers to medicine as witchcraft.

I could go on for days on how screwed up these ancient books are but frankly religion is boring me out of my mind.

With this post I hereby dismiss myself from this thread and you will not see any more posts from me.

I’ve made my opinion clear. Religion doesn’t belong in public schools.
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:37 am

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Bengal and Assam wrote:To fellow posters who (like myself) believe that Islam is a tribalish religion which has no place in the modern world without its practices being seriously reformed....
What are your opinions on people who were born as Muslims, into Muslim families, but never believed in the religion, or basically, closet non-muslims?

Apostates are welcomed with open arms obviously.

It's a shame when people turn their back on God (swt), but that's their choice.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:38 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Apostates are welcomed with open arms obviously.

It's a shame when people turn their back on God (swt), but that's their choice.


It's a shame when people are killed for leaving a religion they disagree with
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:39 am

United States of Americanas wrote:There’s a reason there’s a egalitarian level of dislike for religion on NSG. Not because of atheists, but because of how any religious discussion in a large public group of mixed people is guaranteed to cause chaos and discord and eventually lead to the thread getting locked & or deleted and many members warned for inappropriate conduct.

Religion is the worst topic you can discuss anywhere outside of a religious building.

I am a Unitarian Universalist/Christian/Jew and I have become more and more atheistic in the recent years the more I study these religions and what they preach. The Bible is insane and incompatible with the modern world and so is the Quran. The Torah too. Not one of these ancient books are functional in this day and age.

Again I will echo my sentiment for them as wonderful pieces of history for us to discover how life was then. But they are not viable to be used as law in any capacity. It’s why we have secular governments. God set the secular governments into motion.

Not even Christians of the fundamentalist sect can perfectly obey the Bible. Think about this, if you have a drivers license or you have ever taken a picture with a camera you have created a graven image. You watch TV? Great you’re sinning by viewing a graven image!

This is just one example of thousands displaying the Bible and all of these archaic laws as completely incompatible and then the hilarious thing is churches preach that people will die and be tortured in hell for all eternity if they are sinful.

Even if you’ve never used a TV or camera you’ve surely had to use cash which is a graven image of a dead president.

Have you ever had to take medicine? The Bible refers to medicine as witchcraft.

I could go on for days on how screwed up these ancient books are but frankly religion is boring me out of my mind.

With this post I hereby dismiss myself from this thread and you will not see any more posts from me.

I’ve made my opinion clear. Religion doesn’t belong in public schools.

It's a general primer on religion, not indoctrination. People said nothing about this very class covering other religions but the moment Islam was the class focus people threw a bitch fit like it's a madrassa all of a sudden.
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Postby Ors Might » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:40 am

Gormwood wrote:
United States of Americanas wrote:There’s a reason there’s a egalitarian level of dislike for religion on NSG. Not because of atheists, but because of how any religious discussion in a large public group of mixed people is guaranteed to cause chaos and discord and eventually lead to the thread getting locked & or deleted and many members warned for inappropriate conduct.

Religion is the worst topic you can discuss anywhere outside of a religious building.

I am a Unitarian Universalist/Christian/Jew and I have become more and more atheistic in the recent years the more I study these religions and what they preach. The Bible is insane and incompatible with the modern world and so is the Quran. The Torah too. Not one of these ancient books are functional in this day and age.

Again I will echo my sentiment for them as wonderful pieces of history for us to discover how life was then. But they are not viable to be used as law in any capacity. It’s why we have secular governments. God set the secular governments into motion.

Not even Christians of the fundamentalist sect can perfectly obey the Bible. Think about this, if you have a drivers license or you have ever taken a picture with a camera you have created a graven image. You watch TV? Great you’re sinning by viewing a graven image!

This is just one example of thousands displaying the Bible and all of these archaic laws as completely incompatible and then the hilarious thing is churches preach that people will die and be tortured in hell for all eternity if they are sinful.

Even if you’ve never used a TV or camera you’ve surely had to use cash which is a graven image of a dead president.

Have you ever had to take medicine? The Bible refers to medicine as witchcraft.

I could go on for days on how screwed up these ancient books are but frankly religion is boring me out of my mind.

With this post I hereby dismiss myself from this thread and you will not see any more posts from me.

I’ve made my opinion clear. Religion doesn’t belong in public schools.

It's a general primer on religion, not indoctrination. People said nothing about this very class covering other religions but the moment Islam was the class focus people threw a bitch fit like it's a madrassa all of a sudden.

Because the fucking op was about Islam and people’s reaction to it.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:42 am

United States of Americanas wrote:There’s a reason there’s a egalitarian level of dislike for religion on NSG. Not because of atheists, but because of how any religious discussion in a large public group of mixed people is guaranteed to cause chaos and discord and eventually lead to the thread getting locked & or deleted and many members warned for inappropriate conduct.

Religion is the worst topic you can discuss anywhere outside of a religious building.

I am a Unitarian Universalist/Christian/Jew and I have become more and more atheistic in the recent years the more I study these religions and what they preach. The Bible is insane and incompatible with the modern world and so is the Quran. The Torah too. Not one of these ancient books are functional in this day and age.

Again I will echo my sentiment for them as wonderful pieces of history for us to discover how life was then. But they are not viable to be used as law in any capacity. It’s why we have secular governments. God set the secular governments into motion.

Not even Christians of the fundamentalist sect can perfectly obey the Bible. Think about this, if you have a drivers license or you have ever taken a picture with a camera you have created a graven image. You watch TV? Great you’re sinning by viewing a graven image!

This is just one example of thousands displaying the Bible and all of these archaic laws as completely incompatible and then the hilarious thing is churches preach that people will die and be tortured in hell for all eternity if they are sinful.

Even if you’ve never used a TV or camera you’ve surely had to use cash which is a graven image of a dead president.

Have you ever had to take medicine? The Bible refers to medicine as witchcraft.

I could go on for days on how screwed up these ancient books are but frankly religion is boring me out of my mind.

With this post I hereby dismiss myself from this thread and you will not see any more posts from me.

I’ve made my opinion clear. Religion doesn’t belong in public schools.


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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:42 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:It's a shame when people turn their back on God (swt), but that's their choice.


It's a shame when people are killed for leaving a religion they disagree with

I agree, there is no scriptural basis for the death penalty for apostasy. Infact, the Quran doesn't mention an earthly punishment for it at all. It is implied that it is a matter of the hereafter and not a human concern.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:44 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.


It really isnt. A lot of us are atheists in general

Atheism does not entail hating religion.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It really isnt. A lot of us are atheists in general

Atheism does not entail hating religion.


Well nonetheless we hate religion for oppressing mankind with ignorance and violence. We gotta stop it, I mean it's 2019. It's time
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It really isnt. A lot of us are atheists in general

Atheism does not entail hating religion.

They almost always coincide, however.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:46 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
It's a shame when people are killed for leaving a religion they disagree with

I agree, there is no scriptural basis for the death penalty for apostasy. Infact, the Quran doesn't mention an earthly punishment for it at all. It is implied that it is a matter of the hereafter and not a human concern.


So they'll burn in hell instead. Awesome
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:47 am

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Ifreann wrote:Atheism does not entail hating religion.

They almost always coincide, however.

It’s hard to not hate something that sold you a lie as truth, y’now.
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Cappuccina wrote:I agree, there is no scriptural basis for the death penalty for apostasy. Infact, the Quran doesn't mention an earthly punishment for it at all. It is implied that it is a matter of the hereafter and not a human concern.


So they'll burn in hell instead. Awesome

God burns people because he is all loving.
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:48 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Atheism does not entail hating religion.


Well nonetheless we hate religion for oppressing mankind with ignorance and violence. We gotta stop it, I mean it's 2019. It's time

Current year. :roll:

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:I agree, there is no scriptural basis for the death penalty for apostasy. Infact, the Quran doesn't mention an earthly punishment for it at all. It is implied that it is a matter of the hereafter and not a human concern.


So they'll burn in hell instead. Awesome

You don't believe in Jahannam anyways, why does something you believe isn't real worry you?
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Postby Highever » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:48 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Atheism does not entail hating religion.

They almost always coincide, however.

I mean so does being religious. That hate however when it occurs is just directed towards others that are not the person's own.
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:49 am

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Rojava Free State wrote:
So they'll burn in hell instead. Awesome

God burns people because he is all loving.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:49 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Well nonetheless we hate religion for oppressing mankind with ignorance and violence. We gotta stop it, I mean it's 2019. It's time

Current year. :roll:

Rojava Free State wrote:
So they'll burn in hell instead. Awesome

You don't believe in Jahannam anyways, why does something you believe isn't real worrying you?


I'm not concerned about hell, I'm concerned about the desire of certain people for folks like me to go there
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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:50 am

Cappuccina wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Well nonetheless we hate religion for oppressing mankind with ignorance and violence. We gotta stop it, I mean it's 2019. It's time

Current year. :roll:

Rojava Free State wrote:
So they'll burn in hell instead. Awesome

You don't believe in Jahannam anyways, why does something you believe isn't real worry you?

It worries us that people still think like this. Hell is a childish concept.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:54 am

Ors Might wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.

I sincerely apologize for disliking a religion that is actively killing and/or mutilating people like me.

Damn right. A religion that preaches such things deserves hatred.
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