Classes on Islam should be mandatory, UK teachers say

[Rojava Free State]

And as well all know, no one has ever dared criticize the bible for its homophobic contents.

The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.

It really isnt. A lot of us are atheists in general

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And as well all know, no one has ever dared criticize the bible for its homophobic contents.

The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.

I’ve seen plenty of visceral hate directed at several Christians.

[Gormwood]

The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.

I’ve seen plenty of visceral hate directed at several Christians.

On the forum recently?

[Cauralia]

Students should learn about Islam. They should learn about how many Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality throughout the world. They should learn about how some Muslims support ridiculous, inane and immoral laws that were out of place 1000 years ago.

"Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality"

Quran (4:11) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"

Quran (2:282) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them (them being females)"

Quran (4:3) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" (men can marry four women but a woman can't marry four men. If that ain't sexism)

Sahih Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'"

[Ors Might]

And as well all know, no one has ever dared criticize the bible for its homophobic contents.

The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.

I sincerely apologize for disliking a religion that is actively killing and/or mutilating people like me.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I’ve seen plenty of visceral hate directed at several Christians.

On the forum recently?

Yes. As recent as the suicide thread yesterday. The dislike for the religious is rather egalitarian in the forum.

[Rojava Free State]

Students should learn about Islam. They should learn about how many Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality throughout the world. They should learn about how some Muslims support ridiculous, inane and immoral laws that were out of place 1000 years ago.

"Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality"

Quran (4:11) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"

Quran (2:282) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them (them being females)"

Quran (4:3) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" (men can marry four women but a woman can't marry four men. If that ain't sexism)

Sahih Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'"

Islam is like the cops in the song "sound of the police." The line " are you really for peace and equality? " sums it up

[Gormwood]

The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.

I sincerely apologize for disliking a religion that is actively killing and/or mutilating people like me.

So your only gripe with being otherized by religion is the threat of violence.

[Ors Might]

I sincerely apologize for disliking a religion that is actively killing and/or mutilating people like me.

So your only gripe with being otherized by religion is the threat of violence.

Its pretty fucking far up there, Gauth.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I sincerely apologize for disliking a religion that is actively killing and/or mutilating people like me.

So your only gripe with being otherized by religion is the threat of violence.

Well Gauth, threats of and actual violence from certain adherents of Islam is something we have seen in the past decade, plenty of. I won’t go so far as to lump every Muslim there is on the same category because that’s unfair, but lets not try to cover the sun with our hand either.

[Highever]

It doesn't teach that women are worth half as much as men and beating is a last restort and can involve simply spanking, it can't be brutal. Submission is expected because the man has to give the woman his house or a large cash sum. Saying the spouses should be open to sex is even in the New Testament which goes even further than Islam and says man was not made for woman, woman was made for man.

I am always delighted to see muslim posters defending the spousal abuse proscribed in the quran as though it's anything less than terrible.

Indeed. It is...honestly incredibly disturbing to me, personally.

[Gormwood]

So your only gripe with being otherized by religion is the threat of violence.

Well Gauth, threats of and actual violence from certain adherents of Islam is something we have seen in the past decade, plenty of. I won’t go so far as to lump every Muslim there is on the same category because that’s unfair, but lets not try to cover the sun with our hand either.

It also helps when people aren't so fixated on staring directly into the sun then complaining about how it blinds them.

[Saciu]

Students should learn about Islam. They should learn about how many Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality throughout the world. They should learn about how some Muslims support ridiculous, inane and immoral laws that were out of place 1000 years ago.

"Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality"

Quran (4:11) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"

Quran (2:282) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them (them being females)"

Quran (4:3) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" (men can marry four women but a woman can't marry four men. If that ain't sexism)

Sahih Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'"

I could come up with some disgusting quotes from the Bible. Fundamentalists of religions like Islam and Christianity are bad. I'm not defending those. Anyone who agrees with the quotes you mentioned can seriously go **** themselves - it's already led to enough suffering for minorities in the Middle East. I'm defending the Muslims who actually support equal rights and look past archaic, violent and sexist literature.

[Ors Might]

Well Gauth, threats of and actual violence from certain adherents of Islam is something we have seen in the past decade, plenty of. I won’t go so far as to lump every Muslim there is on the same category because that’s unfair, but lets not try to cover the sun with our hand either.

It also helps when people aren't so fixated on staring directly into the sun then complaining about how it blinds them.

It helps even more when people don’t bitch when others wear sunblock.

[Cappuccina]

The visceral hate is reserved for Islam and Muslims on this forum.

I sincerely apologize for disliking a religion that is actively killing and/or mutilating people like me.

Let me chime in here, who are "people like you"?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Well Gauth, threats of and actual violence from certain adherents of Islam is something we have seen in the past decade, plenty of. I won’t go so far as to lump every Muslim there is on the same category because that’s unfair, but lets not try to cover the sun with our hand either.

It also helps when people aren't so fixated on staring directly into the sun then complaining about how it blinds them.

I can’t blame somebody me for being apprehensive of any religion that otherizes them with threats of or actual violence.

[Bengal and Assam]

To fellow posters who (like myself) believe that Islam is a tribalish religion which has no place in the modern world without its practices being seriously reformed....
What are your opinions on people who were born as Muslims, into Muslim families, but never believed in the religion, or basically, closet non-muslims?

[Saciu]

Students should learn about Islam. They should learn about how many Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality throughout the world. They should learn about how some Muslims support ridiculous, inane and immoral laws that were out of place 1000 years ago.

"Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality"

Quran (4:11) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"

Quran (2:282) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them (them being females)"

Quran (4:3) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" (men can marry four women but a woman can't marry four men. If that ain't sexism)

Sahih Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'"

Also, I really don't appreciate you quoting me out of context. (though I concede that "a few" would have been a much better choice than "many").

[Rojava Free State]

Teaching that women are only worth half as much as men, teaching women to be submissive to men, teaching that husbands can beat wives to ensure their obedience, teaching that women can't say to men (Islamic rape)........... if that is not considered hatred in Islam, then it is by far the most fucked up "religion" in the world.

It doesn't teach that women are worth half as much as men and beating is a last restort and can involve simply spanking, it can't be brutal. Submission is expected because the man has to give the woman his house or a large cash sum. Saying the spouses should be open to sex is even in the New Testament which goes even further than Islam and says man was not made for woman, woman was made for man.

How about women and men are equal and you shouldn't hit anyone just cause they didn't listen to or agree with you?

[Gormwood]

"Muslims want nothing more than peace, prosperity and equality"

Quran (4:11) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"

Quran (2:282) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them (them being females)"

Quran (4:3) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" (men can marry four women but a woman can't marry four men. If that ain't sexism)

Sahih Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'"

I could come up with some disgusting quotes from the Bible. Fundamentalists of religions like Islam and Christianity are bad. I'm not defending those. Anyone who agrees with the quotes you mentioned can seriously go **** themselves - it's already led to enough suffering for minorities in the Middle East. I'm defending the Muslims who actually support equal rights and look past archaic, violent and sexist literature.

But as the world shows, it's a popular sport to lump them all in with ISIS. Wouldn't surprise me if there's support on the internet for what China and Myanmar is doing. Wouldn't surprise me if people are demanding Western nations do the same.

[Rojava Free State]

To fellow posters who (like myself) believe that Islam is a tribalish religion which has no place in the modern world without its practices being seriously reformed....
What are your opinions on people who were born as Muslims, into Muslim families, but never believed in the religion, or basically, closet non-muslims?

They must be the (ex) Muslim equivalent of me. I was born into a Catholic family but I'm an atheist

[Gormwood]

To fellow posters who (like myself) believe that Islam is a tribalish religion which has no place in the modern world without its practices being seriously reformed....
What are your opinions on people who were born as Muslims, into Muslim families, but never believed in the religion, or basically, closet non-muslims?

Apostates are welcomed with open arms obviously.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I could come up with some disgusting quotes from the Bible. Fundamentalists of religions like Islam and Christianity are bad. I'm not defending those. Anyone who agrees with the quotes you mentioned can seriously go **** themselves - it's already led to enough suffering for minorities in the Middle East. I'm defending the Muslims who actually support equal rights and look past archaic, violent and sexist literature.

But as the world shows, it's a popular sport to lump them all in with ISIS. Wouldn't surprise me if there's support on the internet for what China and Myanmar is doing. Wouldn't surprise me if people are demanding Western nations do the same.

Not every Muslim is like ISIS. No. Has anyone said otherwise?

[Rojava Free State]

I could come up with some disgusting quotes from the Bible. Fundamentalists of religions like Islam and Christianity are bad. I'm not defending those. Anyone who agrees with the quotes you mentioned can seriously go **** themselves - it's already led to enough suffering for minorities in the Middle East. I'm defending the Muslims who actually support equal rights and look past archaic, violent and sexist literature.

But as the world shows, it's a popular sport to lump them all in with ISIS. Wouldn't surprise me if there's support on the internet for what China and Myanmar is doing. Wouldn't surprise me if people are demanding Western nations do the same.

And those people are wrong. Concentration camps are evil and shouldn't exist. My opposition to Islam is on the same grounds as my opposition to genocide and imprisonment. I'm anti tyranny

[Rojava Free State]

But as the world shows, it's a popular sport to lump them all in with ISIS. Wouldn't surprise me if there's support on the internet for what China and Myanmar is doing. Wouldn't surprise me if people are demanding Western nations do the same.

Not every Muslim is like ISIS. No. Has anyone said otherwise?

There are people who think dumb things like that. They tend to not be atheists though, but instead are usually evangelical Christians