Classes on Islam should be mandatory, UK teachers say

[Al Mumtahanah]

To be fair, their policies cut traffic congestion in half.

Yet the number one cause of death in Saudi Arabia is... Car accidents.

Women are allowed to drive there and have been for some time.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Yet the number one cause of death in Saudi Arabia is... Car accidents.

Women are allowed to drive there and have been for some time.

It’s a joke.

[Dangine]

You either Teach all religions (At least all the major ones) or you don't teach it at all.
I find religion interesting even though I am not religious, so I would be find having Islam being taught. However if it is the only religion being taught to kids then I would have to say no.

[Bluelight-R006]

You either Teach all religions (At least all the major ones) or you don't teach it at all.
I find religion interesting even though I am not religious, so I would be find having Islam being taught. However if it is the only religion being taught to kids then I would have to say no.

I prefer they don’t teach it at all. They should be optional, yet highly recommended. Parents should have the right to choose what they want their child to be taught.

[New Lindale]

Yeah, they should teach how horrible of a religion it is that preaches hate against women and non-Muslims and wants LGBT people killed.

Indeed, we need to show the world that it is time to make a choice; Women's Rights and LGBT Rights, or Sharia Rights. Also, why is Christ not including in religious classes, the values of western civilisation are from Christianity?

[Al Mumtahanah]

Yeah, they should teach how horrible of a religion it is that preaches hate against women and non-Muslims and wants LGBT people killed.

Indeed, we need to show the world that it is time to make a choice; Women's Rights and LGBT Rights, or Sharia Rights. Also, why is Christ not including in religious classes, the values of western civilisation are from Christianity?

Roman law came from Christianity? Christianity taught pacifism and asceticism, those are not western values

[Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel]

Yeah, they should teach how horrible of a religion it is that preaches hate against women and non-Muslims and wants LGBT people killed.

Indeed, we need to show the world that it is time to make a choice; Women's Rights and LGBT Rights, or Sharia Rights. Also, why is Christ not including in religious classes, the values of western civilisation are from Christianity?

Christianity was never western. It came from the Southern parts of Palestine and it destroyed Europe's Pagan culture. Most people in Britain are Christians so there would be no point teaching them something they already know.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Indeed, we need to show the world that it is time to make a choice; Women's Rights and LGBT Rights, or Sharia Rights. Also, why is Christ not including in religious classes, the values of western civilisation are from Christianity?

Roman law came from Christianity? Christianity taught pacifism and asceticism, those are not western values

“I have not come to bring peace, but the sword.”

[Bluelight-R006]

Most people in Britain are Christians so there would be no point teaching them something they already know.

Yet I don’t see why it’d be a problem if it is compulsory for Christian English people to be taught Islam and those Islamic be taught Christianity, or just optional religious classes, which already exist.

[Greater Cesnica]

Yet the number one cause of death in Saudi Arabia is... Car accidents.

Women are allowed to drive there and have been for some time.

It's been about a year roflmao

[Al Mumtahanah]

Roman law came from Christianity? Christianity taught pacifism and asceticism, those are not western values

“I have not come to bring peace, but the sword.”

It's very clearly figurative in that context. At most he is saying you will be persecuted, not take up the sword and kill mom and dad and son and daughter and brother and sister

[Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel]

“I have not come to bring peace, but the sword.”

It's very clearly figurative in that context. At most he is saying you will be persecuted, not take up the sword and kill mom and dad and son and daughter and brother and sister

The quote still clearly does not show pacifism.

[Al Mumtahanah]

It's very clearly figurative in that context. At most he is saying you will be persecuted, not take up the sword and kill mom and dad and son and daughter and brother and sister

The quote still clearly does not show pacifism.

I mean yeah, it obviously is not suggesting his followers fight, as such it doesn't conflict with pacifism, and he says multiple times don't fight or resist evil and rebukes Peter for defending him with a sword.

[Kaltovar]

If classes were made mandatory for every form of ignorance people possess, we'd be in education until death. Islam is not special in this department.

This is my view. Frankly the UK should stop wasting it's time funding all religious classes and spend time teaching students actual modern-world skills like robotics and electronic engineering instead. The number of teenagers already doing great work in those fields shows me we don't spend enough time teaching applied science because they can totally handle it.

Far better use of school time and money than teaching kids about what should be a private and personal matter to begin with.

[Al Mumtahanah]

If classes were made mandatory for every form of ignorance people possess, we'd be in education until death. Islam is not special in this department.

This is my view. Frankly the UK should stop wasting it's time funding all religious classes and spend time teaching students actual modern-world skills like robotics and electronic engineering instead. The number of teenagers already doing great work in those fields shows me we don't spend enough time teaching applied science because they can totally handle it.

Far better use of school time and money than teaching kids about what should be a private and personal matter to begin with.

Religion is not a private matter unless you're in fear.

[Bluelight-R006]

This is my view. Frankly the UK should stop wasting it's time funding all religious classes and spend time teaching students actual modern-world skills like robotics and electronic engineering instead. The number of teenagers already doing great work in those fields shows me we don't spend enough time teaching applied science because they can totally handle it.

Far better use of school time and money than teaching kids about what should be a private and personal matter to begin with.

Religion is not a private matter unless you're in fear.

How is religion a matter that affects everyone? It need not be pushed unto atheists, for example. They should be kept in the optional religious courses and places of worship, not get into the secular curriculum.

[Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel]

The quote still clearly does not show pacifism.

I mean yeah, it obviously is not suggesting his followers fight, as such it doesn't conflict with pacifism, and he says multiple times don't fight or resist evil and rebukes Peter for defending him with a sword.

The quote clearly does not support peace, which is a big part of pacifism. I read the full quote from the Sword of the Gospel and it still does not give me a peaceful pacifist vibe.

[Kaltovar]

Religion is not a private matter unless you're in fear.

In fear of what?

[Bluelight-R006]

I mean yeah, it obviously is not suggesting his followers fight, as such it doesn't conflict with pacifism, and he says multiple times don't fight or resist evil and rebukes Peter for defending him with a sword.

The quote clearly does not support peace, which is a big part of pacifism. I read the full quote from the Sword of the Gospel and it still does not give me a peaceful pacifist vibe.

The entire text isn’t pacifist. When Jesus said later on that he will divide families, it refers to religious differences and how they separate a family. When people learn his word, those who don’t believe will get separated from those who follow his teachings. However, he doesn’t mean literally to kill anyone or directly divide families.

We’re getting a little off topic here. Perhaps we can continue this elsewhere?

[Cenomannos infecisse santo Insel]

The quote clearly does not support peace, which is a big part of pacifism. I read the full quote from the Sword of the Gospel and it still does not give me a peaceful pacifist vibe.

The entire text isn’t pacifist. When Jesus said later on that he will divide families, it refers to religious differences and how they separate a family. When people learn his word, those who don’t believe will get separated from those who follow his teachings. However, he doesn’t mean literally to kill anyone or directly divide families.

We’re getting a little off topic here. Perhaps we can continue this elsewhere?

The Christian Discussion Thread would be the best place to continue this, but it's pretty late were I am so i'm am so I guess this discussion can end here.

[Edgelords United]

This is my view. Frankly the UK should stop wasting it's time funding all religious classes and spend time teaching students actual modern-world skills like robotics and electronic engineering instead. The number of teenagers already doing great work in those fields shows me we don't spend enough time teaching applied science because they can totally handle it.

Far better use of school time and money than teaching kids about what should be a private and personal matter to begin with.

Religion is not a private matter unless you're in fear.

Accepting Islam? Over my dead body.

No religion should be a part of any school system.Especially a backwards religion like Islam.Leave religion at home where it belongs.If I was going to school and religion was part of the class or they even mention the Quran,the Torah,or the Bible, or creationism, I would just opt out of the class entirely.

Islam.Stop hating women.Let them vote.Let them drive.Let them not be beaten or raped.Let them walk around without a rag on their head to hide their beauty! Go enforce Sharia Law in the Middle East,not Europe or North America.

[Bluelight-R006]

The entire text isn’t pacifist. When Jesus said later on that he will divide families, it refers to religious differences and how they separate a family. When people learn his word, those who don’t believe will get separated from those who follow his teachings. However, he doesn’t mean literally to kill anyone or directly divide families.

We’re getting a little off topic here. Perhaps we can continue this elsewhere?

The Christian Discussion Thread would be the best place to continue this, but it's pretty late were I am so i'm am so I guess this discussion can end here.

Alright, understood.

[Ayissor]

Better idea, state atheism, treat Big Church as what they are, corporations, tax churches, mosques, synagogues etc etc, and not teach them in school.
In a decade or two, we won't have to worry about religion anymore, since there won't be any of it!

[Xobria]

I don't really think its any particular religion in this instance that's the issue but its the fact that it flat out denies all others and places Islam as the one needed to be taught (not just taught but done so against students wishes or beliefs.

If were going to go down this path we should atleast include every religion as a class but not as mandatory classes (considering this whole issue apparently stemmed from people citing that LGBT classes are tought something that is all about "Diversity" I don't see why only Islam has to be included.

... You didn't read the OP, did you?

Probably not (Mission failed we'll get em next time)

If it does include all others then why the living **** does the title say Islam

[Gormwood]

Here we go again, people pretending Islam is the only Abrahamic religion that opposes LGBTs and talks about the subservience of women.