Classes on Islam should be mandatory, UK teachers say

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Lots. But that's irrelevant to people's rights in society. Knowledge of Islam will not cause anyone any harm, so there should be no objections to teaching it in schools.

I agree. As long as the same approach is consistently taken with other major religions, I see no problem in educating children regarding it

That same approach with other religions is going to more than likely cause a clusterfuck.

[Nova Cyberia]

Pffft, silly libs, who needs to establish RE classes to brainwash children into jihadis with when they can all learn about Islam by watching Team America: World Police and Starship Troopers?

Yeah, you can tell people have fantasies about Western countries following China and Myanmar's playbooks on what do with Muslims in the West.

So I'm assuming you'd be fine with mandatory classes on Christianity as well?

[Greater Cesnica]

I agree. As long as the same approach is consistently taken with other major religions, I see no problem in educating children regarding it

That same approach with other religions is going to more than likely cause a clusterfuck.

Hence, 'If'. If you can't balance teaching Islam equally as other religions, then don't teach Islam or Christianity.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That same approach with other religions is going to more than likely cause a clusterfuck.

Hence, 'If'. If you can't balance teaching Islam equally as other religions, then don't teach Islam or Christianity.

Hence why I think that if you’re going to teach about any religion, do it in a historical context (history class), when applicable.

[Rojava Free State]

Pffft, silly libs, who needs to establish RE classes to brainwash children into jihadis with when they can all learn about Islam by watching Team America: World Police and Starship Troopers?

Yeah, you can tell people have fantasies about Western countries following China and Myanmar's playbooks on what do with Muslims in the West.

So I'm assuming you'd be fine with mandatory classes on Christianity as well?

How about we teach about the religions but we don't portray only their good parts. We teach about Islam but we make sure to inform the kids on every violent and bloody moment in its history as well as the parts about "treat animals with respect" and "give money to the poor?" I strongly think this RE class is gonna be the usual " Islam is a religion of peace" crap

[Al Mumtahanah]

Death for sodomy was probably common in Arabia before Islam

Therefore Islam is nothing more than a continuation of the culture at the time and is a product of its era, not a God

In some things, but those were believed by the Arabs to have been taught by Ishmael (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Most things in Islam were not culturally common locally. Drinking, gambling, infanticide, public dancing and idolatry were all very big parts of Arabian culture that were banned by Islam.

[Gormwood]

Pffft, silly libs, who needs to establish RE classes to brainwash children into jihadis with when they can all learn about Islam by watching Team America: World Police and Starship Troopers?

Yeah, you can tell people have fantasies about Western countries following China and Myanmar's playbooks on what do with Muslims in the West.

So I'm assuming you'd be fine with mandatory classes on Christianity as well?

It's religious education, not religious indoctrination. Good grief, geography books talked about religion without proselytizing and that's all these classes pretty much are. If RE classes on Christianity were banned in Murika we all know the Evangelicals would throw a pissy fit and not be dismissed as religious fanatics like the Muslims are.

[Rojava Free State]

Therefore Islam is nothing more than a continuation of the culture at the time and is a product of its era, not a God

In some things, but those were believed by the Arabs to have been taught by Ishmael (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Most things in Islam were not culturally common locally. Drinking, gambling, infanticide, public dancing and idolatry were all very big parts of Arabian culture that were banned by Islam.

The infanticide thing had to go and idolatry is kinda weird but did you really have to do away with everything else?

[Rojava Free State]

So I'm assuming you'd be fine with mandatory classes on Christianity as well?

It's religious education, not religious indoctrination. Good grief, geography books talked about religion without proselytizing and that's all these classes pretty much are. If RE classes on Christianity were banned in Murika we all know the Evangelicals would throw a pissy fit and not be dismissed as religious fanatics like the Muslims are.

The only people who wouldn't dismiss them as religious fanatics would be themselves. Anyone else would think they lost their minds

[Al Mumtahanah]

In some things, but those were believed by the Arabs to have been taught by Ishmael (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Most things in Islam were not culturally common locally. Drinking, gambling, infanticide, public dancing and idolatry were all very big parts of Arabian culture that were banned by Islam.

The infanticide thing had to go and idolatry is kinda weird but did you really have to do away with everything else?

Yes gambling includes speculation, look what financial speculation does. And alcohol is literally the most dangerous drug in the United States.

[Greater Cesnica]

The infanticide thing had to go and idolatry is kinda weird but did you really have to do away with everything else?

Yes gambling includes speculation, look what financial speculation does. And alcohol is literally the most dangerous drug in the United States.

Dancing?

[Gormwood]

It's religious education, not religious indoctrination. Good grief, geography books talked about religion without proselytizing and that's all these classes pretty much are. If RE classes on Christianity were banned in Murika we all know the Evangelicals would throw a pissy fit and not be dismissed as religious fanatics like the Muslims are.

The only people who wouldn't dismiss them as religious fanatics would be themselves. Anyone else would think they lost their minds

Oh and a political party currently running the government that draws heavily on Evangelical support. So nice to forget.

[Ors Might]

I would argue lashing gays would qualify as a moral fall. A fall from what, I’m not sure, but I can’t imagine someone starting out at moral rock bottom.

Death for sodomy was probably common in Arabia before Islam

..And?? Was that supposed to make me view Islam in a better light or something?

[Al Mumtahanah]

Yes gambling includes speculation, look what financial speculation does. And alcohol is literally the most dangerous drug in the United States.

Dancing?

Yes dancing, this is Islam we're talking about, not Christianity.

[American Pere Housh]

Classes on Islam shouldn't be mandatory only optional.

[Dooom35796821595]

The infanticide thing had to go and idolatry is kinda weird but did you really have to do away with everything else?

Yes gambling includes speculation, look what financial speculation does. And alcohol is literally the most dangerous drug in the United States.

All financial investments require speculation, but you can’t just outlaw investment. And it’s a legal one, easy to make and isn’t the cause of the problem since most handle it responsibly.

Also isn’t worshiping a god a form of idolatry?

[Nova Cyberia]

So I'm assuming you'd be fine with mandatory classes on Christianity as well?

It's religious education, not religious indoctrination. Good grief, geography books talked about religion without proselytizing and that's all these classes pretty much are. If RE classes on Christianity were banned in Murika we all know the Evangelicals would throw a pissy fit and not be dismissed as religious fanatics like the Muslims are.

Like I said earlier, I'm fine with it as long as we teach about the slavery, killing of apostates, lashing gays for sex, and other such wonderful things about Islam.

[Ifreann]

Ah, so it is nothing to do with nativeness or foreignness. Because there are, as I am sure you must realise, Britons who are homophobic, sexist, and authoritarian. In fact, they're running the country.

I defend the rights of all people. It's this whole equality thing, maybe you've heard of it?

What you will accept is irrelevant. Your culture, whatever it is you mean by that, will change. It changed in the past to become what it is now and it will continue to change in the future, both during your life and afterwards. You can scream and rend your shirt and curse foreigners or time itself or who or whatever you want, but it will happen. Depend.


I answered your question, just not in the way you wanted.

No you didnt. You talked about Romans and Germanic people and made no mention of africa. And as for the thing about "it isn't about nativeness," yes it is.

#1 most brits are tolerant of gays. Yes there are homophobic Brits but In Britain being a homophobe is highly frowned upon whereas in Islamic natioms, being gay can range from being totally ostracized to bring murdered..

The Tory party barely held itself together when they legalised gay marriage. The DUP have managed to prevent the legalisation of gay marriage in Northern Ireland. The people running Britain right now would probably ban homosexuality if they could get away with it, and you are demanding that Muslims leave Britain for fear of their homophobia.

#2 islam is incompatible with western democracy. I don't want to give power to a fascistic ideology that seeks to oppress me. You say my culture will change, well I and the rest of the people in my nation who have any balls left aren't about to sit back and let some closet ISIS sympathizers take over under the guise of tolerance

Instead you'll embrace a different, nativist, fascistic ideology. Well done.

#3 parents have a right to opt their children out of certain education. The school can teach about Islam but it better give the parents and kids their rights to not hear about it.

Fuck that, parents don't have rights. Parents have the power to make decisions on behalf of their child, and if they misuse that power it will be taken away from them and someone else will raise their child.

If any culture ought to be changed overtime, it's Islamic culture. More respect for women and gay people and free speech and secularism would help a lot

Every culture changes over time.

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Pffft, silly libs, who needs to establish RE classes to brainwash children into jihadis with when they can all learn about Islam by watching Team America: World Police and Starship Troopers?

Yeah, you can tell people have fantasies about Western countries following China and Myanmar's playbooks on what do with Muslims in the West.

So I'm assuming you'd be fine with mandatory classes on Christianity as well?

You mean the classes they already have?

[Al Mumtahanah]

Death for sodomy was probably common in Arabia before Islam

..And?? Was that supposed to make me view Islam in a better light or something?

I dunno bro, you really think it was bigoted for cultures to not tolerate sodomy when you poop out there and sterilization and condoms were not exactly available? Maybe they were just too narrow minded. Or maybe it sounded hazardous and crazy?

[Ors Might]

..And?? Was that supposed to make me view Islam in a better light or something?

I dunno bro, you really think it was bigoted for cultures to not tolerate sodomy when you poop out there and sterilization and condoms were not exactly available? Maybe they were just too narrow minded. Or maybe it sounded hazardous and crazy?

And that justifies punishing it now how?

[Al Mumtahanah]

I dunno bro, you really think it was bigoted for cultures to not tolerate sodomy when you poop out there and sterilization and condoms were not exactly available? Maybe they were just too narrow minded. Or maybe it sounded hazardous and crazy?

And that justifies punishing it now how?

It's a potential epidemic in a time when plagues were cataclysmic?

[Ifreann]

And that justifies punishing it now how?

It's a potential epidemic in a time when plagues were cataclysmic?

Butt fucking isn't an epidemic.

[Nova Cyberia]

And that justifies punishing it now how?

It's a potential epidemic in a time when plagues were cataclysmic?

Gays have always been less than 1% of the population. There is no "potential epidemic" there.

[Greater Cesnica]

It's a potential epidemic in a time when plagues were cataclysmic?

Butt fucking isn't an epidemic.

^^^

[Ors Might]

And that justifies punishing it now how?

It's a potential epidemic in a time when plagues were cataclysmic?

That’s not now bud.