Classes on Islam should be mandatory, UK teachers say

[Wallenburg]

I don't know about you, but all through adolescence I could stay focused without mentally masturbating to the nearest woman in the room.

Prayer is expected to have much more focus than that needed for study.

Well once you learn your incantations repeating them over and over is easy enough. I've still got the Lord's Prayer and grace memorized even though I stopped practicing almost a decade ago.

[Inkopolitia]

They do - and yes, this means muslims will not be able to opt out of classes about devil worship, paganism or the worldview that Mohammed was a bad man. Fair is fair.

Since when did Muslim need to attend classes to hear that? The whole world keeps telling them that every day.

I mean, wasn't Mohammed a pedo or something?

[Gormwood]

Since when did Muslim need to attend classes to hear that? The whole world keeps telling them that every day.

The whole world is right

But when the other Abrahamic religions talk about women having to be subservient to men, not a cricket chirp.

[Rojava Free State]

Prayer is expected to have much more focus than that needed for study.

Well once you learn your incantations repeating them over and over is easy enough. I've still got the Lord's Prayer and grace memorized even though I stopped practicing almost a decade ago.

I've already forgotten half the bible and I can't say I'm sad about it

[Rojava Free State]

The whole world is right

But when the other Abrahamic religions talk about women having to be subservient to men, not a cricket chirp.

Not from the trump fanbase or evangelicals, but from people like me you'll hear more than a chirp

Atheists and agnostics tend to be pretty impartial with regards to not liking religion. I'm not a fan of any religion that rules through fear, despised human rights and is anti free speech.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Prayer is expected to have much more focus than that needed for study.

Well once you learn your incantations repeating them over and over is easy enough. I've still got the Lord's Prayer and grace memorized even though I stopped practicing almost a decade ago.

Some of what you recite is up to you to select from the Qur'an, and just reciting is not enough for purity of prayer. Prayer's purity requires conscious intent, belief and focus.

[Gormwood]

Since when did Muslim need to attend classes to hear that? The whole world keeps telling them that every day.

I mean, wasn't Mohammed a pedo or something?

Imposing modern lifespan and standards of age on a period where teenagers and even preteens married, and the 20s were considered old just to call all Muslims kiddy diddlers. Yeah.

[Des-Bal]

But when the other Abrahamic religions talk about women having to be subservient to men, not a cricket chirp.

I have never seen a christian defend spousal abuse as necessary and cools with the fervor that muslims do.

[Rojava Free State]

I mean, wasn't Mohammed a pedo or something?

Imposing modern lifespan and standards of age on a period where teenagers and even preteens married, and the 20s were considered old just to call all Muslims kiddy diddlers. Yeah.

Wrong is wrong no matter the time period. Marrying preteens is wrong.

[Wallenburg]

Well once you learn your incantations repeating them over and over is easy enough. I've still got the Lord's Prayer and grace memorized even though I stopped practicing almost a decade ago.

Some of what you recite is up to you to select from the Qur'an, and just reciting is not enough for purity of prayer. Prayer's purity requires conscious intent, belief and focus.

Sure, but I can say all the words and that does enough for me to get through weird Christian stuff.

[Imbalistan]

Imposing modern lifespan and standards of age on a period where teenagers and even preteens married, and the 20s were considered old just to call all Muslims kiddy diddlers. Yeah.

Wrong is wrong no matter the time period. Marrying preteens is wrong.

I think what he is saying that yes, it is wrong, but for that time it was considered normal.

[Rojava Free State]

Wrong is wrong no matter the time period. Marrying preteens is wrong.

I think what he is saying that yes, it is wrong, but for that time it was considered normal.

Well clearly that time period was a weird one, so why are we putting faith in people from those eras when we are modern men?

[Inkopolitia]

I mean, wasn't Mohammed a pedo or something?

Imposing modern lifespan and standards of age on a period where teenagers and even preteens married, and the 20s were considered old just to call all Muslims kiddy diddlers. Yeah.

One would tell that it's wrong, because the world is more advanced in 2019 than a thousand years ago.

The whole world is right

But when the other Abrahamic religions talk about women having to be subservient to men, not a cricket chirp.

I mean, I am a woman, and I hate most religions because of this exact reason. They teach women to be submissive to men, instead of teaching that both genders are equal.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Since when did Muslim need to attend classes to hear that? The whole world keeps telling them that every day.

I mean, wasn't Mohammed a pedo or something?

Most of his wives were widows. He had one child bride due to a dream, in an age when child brides were universally acceptable. Considering he held complete political power and people considered him God's verbatim spokesman, if he had a sexual penchant for children he would have been able to indulge it a lot more extensively than one child bride out of thirteen wives based on a dream. Let's also not forget she was the daughter of his best friend and strong supporter during his persecution.

[Inkopolitia]

I mean, wasn't Mohammed a pedo or something?

Most of his wives were widows. He had one child bride due to a dream, in an age when child brides were universally acceptable. Considering he held complete political power and people considered him God's verbatim spokesman, if he had a sexual penchant for children he would have been able to indulge it a lot more extensively than one child bride out of thirteen wives based on a dream. Let's also not forget she was the daughter of his best friend and strong supporter during his persecution.

Dude, it's still wrong. You may say that it's perfectly A-OK because it was a thousand or so years ago, but the world is more advanced. We can now tell what's wrong and what is not wrong. We know for a fact that torturing animals is wrong, but that was not the truth for the people in the past. We can now tell that pedophiles are bad people, but that was not the truth for the people in the past. However, as people of this modern day and age, we know that both of those things are wrong.

By the way, sorry if I express myself in a confusing manner, English isn't my first language

[Des-Bal]

Most of his wives were widows. He had one child bride due to a dream, in an age when child brides were universally acceptable. Considering he held complete political power and people considered him God's verbatim spokesman, if he had a sexual penchant for children he would have been able to indulge it a lot more extensively than one child bride out of thirteen wives based on a dream. Let's also not forget she was the daughter of his best friend and strong supporter during his persecution.

That's right, if he was really a child rapist why would he only have raped the one child?

[Al Mumtahanah]

Most of his wives were widows. He had one child bride due to a dream, in an age when child brides were universally acceptable. Considering he held complete political power and people considered him God's verbatim spokesman, if he had a sexual penchant for children he would have been able to indulge it a lot more extensively than one child bride out of thirteen wives based on a dream. Let's also not forget she was the daughter of his best friend and strong supporter during his persecution.

Dude, it's still wrong. You may say that it's perfectly A-OK because it was a thousand or so years ago, but the world is more advanced. We can now tell what's wrong and what is not wrong. We know for a fact that torturing animals is wrong, but that was not the truth for the people in the past. We can now tell that pedophiles are bad people, but that was not the truth for the people in the past. However, as people of this modern day and age, we know that both of those things are wrong.

By the way, sorry if I express myself in a confusing manner, English isn't my first language

Torturing animals was always wrong in Islam, bulllfight or bearbaiting were always haram.

[Gormwood]

Most of his wives were widows. He had one child bride due to a dream, in an age when child brides were universally acceptable. Considering he held complete political power and people considered him God's verbatim spokesman, if he had a sexual penchant for children he would have been able to indulge it a lot more extensively than one child bride out of thirteen wives based on a dream. Let's also not forget she was the daughter of his best friend and strong supporter during his persecution.

Dude, it's still wrong. You may say that it's perfectly A-OK because it was a thousand or so years ago, but the world is more advanced. We can now tell what's wrong and what is not wrong. We know for a fact that torturing animals is wrong, but that was not the truth for the people in the past. We can now tell that pedophiles are bad people, but that was not the truth for the people in the past. However, as people of this modern day and age, we know that both of those things are wrong.

By the way, sorry if I express myself in a confusing manner, English isn't my first language

You're judging the past by modern standards and by extention judging all modern Muslims as culpable.

[The Grims]

Even more distracting.

Not really, It's for Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He).

A nose full of perfume is far more distracting than the presence of people of the opposite sex.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Most of his wives were widows. He had one child bride due to a dream, in an age when child brides were universally acceptable. Considering he held complete political power and people considered him God's verbatim spokesman, if he had a sexual penchant for children he would have been able to indulge it a lot more extensively than one child bride out of thirteen wives based on a dream. Let's also not forget she was the daughter of his best friend and strong supporter during his persecution.

That's right, if he was really a child rapist why would he only have raped the one child?

She grew up to be a very powerful woman and important source on him. She lead what accidentally turned into a rebellion against his son in law though.

[Genivaria]

A comparative religion class should be available but as an elective.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Not really, It's for Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He).

A nose full of perfume is far more distracting than the presence of people of the opposite sex.

How does that distract from prayer?

[Genivaria]

That's right, if he was really a child rapist why would he only have raped the one child?

She grew up to be a very powerful woman and important source on him. She lead what accidentally turned into a rebellion against his son in law though.

Not sure how this debunks the whole rape thing.

[The Alma Mater]

Most of his wives were widows. He had one child bride due to a dream, in an age when child brides were universally acceptable. Considering he held complete political power and people considered him God's verbatim spokesman, if he had a sexual penchant for children he would have been able to indulge it a lot more extensively than one child bride out of thirteen wives based on a dream. Let's also not forget she was the daughter of his best friend and strong supporter during his persecution.

That's right, if he was really a child rapist why would he only have raped the one child?

Did he ? Or did he rape thousands during campaigns ?

[Des-Bal]

You're judging the past by modern standards and by extention judging all modern Muslims as culpable.

And Islam is judging the world by the standards of the past. I don't view that as positive, I don't think kids need to be exposed to it, I certainly don't think they should be denied the opportunity to opt out.