Classes on Islam should be mandatory, UK teachers say

[Al Mumtahanah]

Parents should not be allowed to selectively remove their children from religious education (RE) lessons, headteachers say, as study reveals many withdrawal requests are over the teaching of Islam.

More than two in five school leaders and RE teachers have received requests for students to be withdrawn from teaching about one religion, research from Liverpool Hope University has revealed.

I have to agree with the teachers, if LGBT classes are mandatory, why not classes on Islam?

Iman Atta, director of Tell Mama, an activist group which records and measures anti-Muslim incidents in Britain, told The Independent: “We have been hearing about cases where parents are pulling their children out of mosque visits as part of religious education since they do not want them to be near a mosque.

“This has been taking place over the last five years and shows that there are parents who have fears or dislike Islam. This is also concerning, since what kinds of views are their children being exposed to? It does not bode well for the future of people and communities living together”.

The right of parents to withdraw their children from RE and from collective worship has been in enshrined in law by both the 1944 and 1988 education acts. Parents can withdraw their children from some or all of the RE curriculum without giving a reason.

Teachers warned in April last year that parents were increasingly abusing the right to withdraw their children from religious education lessons due to their prejudices.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/educ ... 76366.html

So how should this be fixed? Children can't learn about Islam if parents refuse to let them. Should the law be changed? I think so and teachers agree.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

"Dear God, I don't know where to begin, I ask that you please pray for me and keep me in prayer."
"Show me the right path, Oh Lord; point out the road for me to follow."

[Loben The 2nd]

Hell no.

[Ifreann]

What is with you making threads about the UK every day? You know there's a UK politics thread, yeah?

[Bread Herbert]

Yeah, they should teach how horrible of a religion it is that preaches hate against women and non-Muslims and wants LGBT people killed.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Theology and comparative religion should be taught in schools. It doesn't require belief in the subject matter to appreciate the skills gained from studying it.

[Kronica]

Sorry but... Islam is the most violent religion in the world. It is like saying "Let's make IRA classes mandatory"

[Bread Herbert]

Sorry but... Islam is the most violent religion in the world. It is like saying "Let's make IRA classes mandatory"

Exactly

[Wallenburg]

Religious education classes are of little value to begin with. They definitely shouldn't be mandatory.

[Al Mumtahanah]

What is with you making threads about the UK every day? You know there's a UK politics thread, yeah?

Yeah but I thought that was focused on parliament and government similar to the American thread.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Sorry but... Islam is the most violent religion in the world. It is like saying "Let's make IRA classes mandatory"

I mean, nothing wrong with learning about the IRA. The IRA is a pretty big part of British history. Islam isn't.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Religious education classes are of little value to begin with. They definitely shouldn't be mandatory.

Secular theology classes teach history, linguistics, philosophy, literature criticism, etc. Theology teaches a very broad set of skills in the humanities.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Yeah, they should teach how horrible of a religion it is that preaches hate against women and non-Muslims and wants LGBT people killed.

Hatred of women? How? This sort of ignorance is exactly what makes these classes necessary.

[The Free Joy State]

Children should learn comparative religious studies that teach all major world religions that are present in the nation in an honest manner that encourages critical examination of beliefs around major issues, without promotion of any religion.

Children should comprehend those around them (of all religions and none).

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Yeah, they should teach how horrible of a religion it is that preaches hate against women and non-Muslims and wants LGBT people killed.

Hatred of women? How? This sort of ignorance is exactly what makes these classes necessary.

If classes were made mandatory for every form of ignorance people possess, we'd be in education until death. Islam is not special in this department.

[Bread Herbert]

Yeah, they should teach how horrible of a religion it is that preaches hate against women and non-Muslims and wants LGBT people killed.

Hatred of women? How? This sort of ignorance is exactly what makes these classes necessary.

Teaching that women are only worth half as much as men, teaching women to be submissive to men, teaching that husbands can beat wives to ensure their obedience, teaching that women can't say to men (Islamic rape)........... if that is not considered hatred in Islam, then it is by far the most fucked up "religion" in the world.

[Wallenburg]

Religious education classes are of little value to begin with. They definitely shouldn't be mandatory.

Secular theology classes teach history, linguistics, philosophy, literature criticism, etc. Theology teaches a very broad set of skills in the humanities.

Which students already learn without the focus on religion in their history, language, literature, and philosophy classes.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Hatred of women? How? This sort of ignorance is exactly what makes these classes necessary.

If classes were made mandatory for every form of ignorance people possess, we'd be in education until death. Islam is not special in this department.

It is an important part of British culture. Bigger than LGBT.

[The New California Republic]

Secular theology classes teach history, linguistics, philosophy, literature criticism, etc. Theology teaches a very broad set of skills in the humanities.

Which students already learn without the focus on religion in their history, language, literature, and philosophy classes.

When I was at school philosophy wasn't offered as a subject. For shame.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Secular theology classes teach history, linguistics, philosophy, literature criticism, etc. Theology teaches a very broad set of skills in the humanities.

Which students already learn without the focus on religion in their history, language, literature, and philosophy classes.

Depends on which country you live in. Either way, theology is the center of the modern humanities, and all other modern humanities grew out of it. Secular theology gives a very well-rounded and broad education in the humanities which is not provided by most other classes. Moreover, theology provides a window into how people in the past conceived of their world.

[Bread Herbert]

If classes were made mandatory for every form of ignorance people possess, we'd be in education until death. Islam is not special in this department.

It is an important part of British culture. Bigger than LGBT.

Islam is not British culture. It is an alien culture being pushed on Britain by outsiders that generally hate British culture and Western values of freedom, secularism, and equality.

[The Chuck]

If you got classes on Islam, I think you need to have classes on all major religions ranging from Judaism to Paganism. To pick and choose a specific religion sounds like you're trying to indoctrinate people.

Although I'm a conservative cis-gender guy, I think LGBT+ teachings are fine because it isn't my place to tell you what you can/cannot do in life. LGBT+ information is not the same as teaching about a specific religion. If it was a world religions class, that would make more sense.

[Nakena]

Hell no.

Hey it's for more diversity.

You know.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

If classes were made mandatory for every form of ignorance people possess, we'd be in education until death. Islam is not special in this department.

It is an important part of British culture. Bigger than LGBT.

Islam is not British culture. It is an alien culture being pushed on Britain by outsiders that generally hate British culture and Western values of freedom, secularism, and equality.

Islam is a religon foreign to Britain. Islam is not an "Important part of British culture", and it is certainly not "bigger then LGBT [culture in Britain]."

[Al Mumtahanah]

Hatred of women? How? This sort of ignorance is exactly what makes these classes necessary.

Teaching that women are only worth half as much as men, teaching women to be submissive to men, teaching that husbands can beat wives to ensure their obedience, teaching that women can't say to men (Islamic rape)........... if that is not considered hatred in Islam, then it is by far the most fucked up "religion" in the world.

It doesn't teach that women are worth half as much as men and beating is a last restort and can involve simply spanking, it can't be brutal. Submission is expected because the man has to give the woman his house or a large cash sum. Saying the spouses should be open to sex is even in the New Testament which goes even further than Islam and says man was not made for woman, woman was made for man.