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Should the Electoral College be abolished?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:35 pm
by Bread Herbert
The Electoral college is the system of electing the president of the United States of America.

In my opinion it is very undemocratic. The electoral college has lead to electing a president 4 times without the majority of the voters.
This site also shows how you can win the elections with 22% of the popular vote.
https://www.squarefree.com/2004/11/01/w ... ular-vote/

In my opinion the electoral college should be abolished and replaced by the popular vote the candidate with the most votes win.

NS , what is your opinion?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:36 pm
by Ors Might
Oh boy here we go again

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:37 pm
by Bread Herbert
Ors Might wrote:Oh boy here we go again


And your opinion?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:37 pm
by New haven america
Yes /Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:37 pm
by Kowani
I’ll say what I said last time:
Kowani wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Why does it suck?

1. It doesn’t actually give power to small states, rather, a small group of “swing states,” because everyone else is safe red or safe blue bar extraordinary circumstances.
2. It contributes to the 2 party system.
3. It contributes to polarization.
4. Everyone in a state that’s safe for one side or another might as well not vote at all, for all the impact it has.

Yes.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:38 pm
by Bread Herbert
Kowani wrote:I’ll say what I said last time:
Kowani wrote:1. It doesn’t actually give power to small states, rather, a small group of “swing states,” because everyone else is safe red or safe blue bar extraordinary circumstances.
2. It contributes to the 2 party system.
3. It contributes to polarization.
4. Everyone in a state that’s safe for one side or another might as well not vote at all, for all the impact it has.

Yes.


How does it contribute to polarization?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:39 pm
by Bread Herbert
New haven america wrote:Yes /Thread


But at least two people that voted in the poll disagree.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:41 pm
by Arlenton
No. I like it.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:41 pm
by Bread Herbert
Arlenton wrote:No. I like it.


Why?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:41 pm
by Pacomia
Yes. It’s unfair, creates an oligarchy, and gets in the way of actual democracy by creating where the votes of only a few hundred people decide who will rule over 300 million. There are really no benefits to this system anymore. It creates an easy gateway for corruption, and is just completely unnecessary and is one of the many problems I have with the American political system/process.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:41 pm
by Kowani
Bread Herbert wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’ll say what I said last time:

Yes.


How does it contribute to polarization?

It’s easier to win votes by being more extreme. The Electoral college makes it much more worth it to be radical than it would otherwise be.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:41 pm
by Ors Might
Bread Herbert wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Oh boy here we go again


And your opinion?

My opinion is that in the four years since the last election this debate has been done to death so many times that you could make trading cards for all the pro-electoral college and anti-electoral college arguments.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:42 pm
by Bread Herbert
Ors Might wrote:
Bread Herbert wrote:
And your opinion?

My opinion is that in the four years since the last election this debate has been done to death so many times that you could make trading cards for all the pro-electoral college and anti-electoral college arguments.


Where can I buy some?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:43 pm
by Arlenton
Bread Herbert wrote:
Arlenton wrote:No. I like it.


Why?

It benefits the party I support.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:43 pm
by Ors Might
Bread Herbert wrote:
Ors Might wrote:My opinion is that in the four years since the last election this debate has been done to death so many times that you could make trading cards for all the pro-electoral college and anti-electoral college arguments.


Where can I buy some?

I dunno, probably the same game store where you can still buy that Neopet shit that was a thing for like three years before suddenly vanishing.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:45 pm
by New haven america
Ors Might wrote:
Bread Herbert wrote:
Where can I buy some?

I dunno, probably the same game store where you can still buy that Neopet shit that was a thing for like three years before suddenly vanishing.

Neopets is still running and is still great.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:46 pm
by Bread Herbert
Ors Might wrote:
Bread Herbert wrote:
Where can I buy some?

I dunno, probably the same game store where you can still buy that Neopet shit that was a thing for like three years before suddenly vanishing.


I still play Neopets...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:46 pm
by Bread Herbert
Arlenton wrote:
Bread Herbert wrote:
Why?

It benefits the party I support.


Which party is that?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:47 pm
by Ors Might
New haven america wrote:
Ors Might wrote:I dunno, probably the same game store where you can still buy that Neopet shit that was a thing for like three years before suddenly vanishing.

Neopets is still running and is still great.

This is legitimately the most veering thing that I’ve read here all day. I remember seeing that stuff everywhere in ads before it just stopped.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:47 pm
by Salus Maior
Yes. And Congress. And the Senate. And the Presidency.

*writes out an invitation to the Queen*

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:48 pm
by Bread Herbert
Salus Maior wrote:Yes. And Congress. And the Senate. And the Presidency.

*writes out an invitation to the Queen*


Which Queen?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:48 pm
by Kowani
Salus Maior wrote:Yes. And Congress. And the Senate. And the Presidency.

*writes out an invitation to the Queen*

No. Monarchism is shit.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:48 pm
by Salus Maior
Bread Herbert wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Yes. And Congress. And the Senate. And the Presidency.

*writes out an invitation to the Queen*


Which Queen?


Elizabeth Windsor.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:48 pm
by Bread Herbert
Kowani wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Yes. And Congress. And the Senate. And the Presidency.

*writes out an invitation to the Queen*

No. Monarchism is shit.


Palpatine is good.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:49 pm
by Arlenton
Bread Herbert wrote:
Arlenton wrote:It benefits the party I support.


Which party is that?

The one that has lost the popular vote in every single presidential election of my lifetime, except once.