Likelihood of an second American Civil War

[Territories of Illinois]

Second American Civil War?

It is without a doubt that American politics are more divided since the civil war, and with that many people are asking if there can be another civil war in united states history. So much so that at the time of President Donald Trump's inauguration, the American people were so divided that there were protest and violence in the streets with multiple articles proposing this very idea. There were movements to have California secede from the Union and people threatening to assassinate the president. All of this we haven't seen since the beginning and end of the civil war. The question being asked here is if there can be another civil war in the foreseeable future and if so, what will it be like? What would the sides be? Would there be any hope the American Country? https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/24/calexit-plan-to-divorce-california-from-us-is-getting-a-second-chance.html https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-threats/connecticut-man-faces-up-to-140-years-in-prison-for-threatening-to-kill-trump-others-idUSKCN1SI0LY https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/20/free-speech-destruction-first-trump-inauguration-protesters-go-trial/882512001/https://time.com/4640946/donald-trump-inauguration-protesters/

[Territories of Illinois]

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[LiberNovusAmericae]

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No need to bump so soon.

[Scottish Socialists]

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Is that a record bump? One minute?

[Territories of Illinois]

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No need to bump so soon.

Sorry, I'm new to the forum kinda of thing...

[LiberNovusAmericae]

We are headed towards one, unfortunately.

[Territories of Illinois]

I'll give it a 50% chance.

I'm preparing for that eventuality, not as a rebel myself mind you, but of a restorationist and innovator who fixes the American structure. I don't condone illegal action, and I oppose rebels. I'm more of a anti-rebel who is prepared for if the USA falls to save what we can, legally through working with local governments and trying to halt the chaos.

I have always kind have wanted a civil war so I could try to restore the Confederation to it's previous glory, but yeah I would give it about a 50% chance for the near future.

[Scottish Socialists]

I'll give it a 50% chance.

I'm preparing for that eventuality, not as a rebel myself mind you, but of a restorationist and innovator who fixes the American structure. I don't condone illegal action, and I oppose rebels. I'm more of a anti-rebel who is prepared for if the USA falls to save what we can, legally through working with local governments and trying to halt the chaos.

I have always kind have wanted a civil war so I could try to restore the Confederation to it's previous glory, but yeah I would give it about a 50% chance for the near future.

What difference are you going to make in this hypothetical civil war?

[The South Falls]

We're still unified enough to avoid civil war. the military will squash every rebel.

[Territories of Illinois]

Furthermore, America will start off as 2 sides in hypothetical civil war, much like the Han Dynasty, but then will fracture into regional warlord governments. That is a far more realistic outcome looking at the map of public support for each party, but factionalism will emerge in both, causing them to splinter. that's my prediction, from a historical basis.

I've always believed that it would start our with multiple groups instead of just two given the far-right extremist and the far-left extremist then you would have the original government still trying to keep everything intact. Then there would probably just be plain rebels fighting for their homeland.

[Saralonia]

I am a Mexican that doesn't completely understand the politics of the U.S.A but in my opinion it may be unlikely to happen and if it happens then i think many radicals, and moderates would split up and i think it may create a living hell for those that just want to go on with their lives and forced to chose a side.

[The South Falls]

I'll give it a 50% chance.

I'm preparing for that eventuality, not as a rebel myself mind you, but of a restorationist and innovator who fixes the American structure. I don't condone illegal action, and I oppose rebels. I'm more of a anti-rebel who is prepared for if the USA falls to save what we can, legally through working with local governments and trying to halt the chaos.

I have always kind have wanted a civil war so I could try to restore the Confederation to it's previous glory, but yeah I would give it about a 50% chance for the near future.

Why? Are you an illustrious general, the most well-armed man in all of your region, or someone who has extraordinary access to power? Your most likely outcome, if you were thrust into a civil war, is to be slaughtered, as with all but those in the possession of the most power.

[Territories of Illinois]

I have always kind have wanted a civil war so I could try to restore the Confederation to it's previous glory, but yeah I would give it about a 50% chance for the near future.

What difference are you going to make in this hypothetical civil war?

probably not much to be honest, but hell it would still be badass and try.

[Territories of Illinois]

I am a Mexican that doesn't completely understand the politics of the U.S.A but in my opinion it may be unlikely to happen and if it happens then i think many radicals, and moderates would split up and i think it may create a living hell for those that just want to go on with their lives and forced to chose a side.

It would certainly have extremist

[Shrillland]

Given the actions of today and the likely responses from our leadership, I think that it's gone up from a 5% to a 25% probability in the next 10-15 years. I still hope this won't happen, but that hope drops by the day.

[Shrillland]

I've always believed that it would start our with multiple groups instead of just two given the far-right extremist and the far-left extremist then you would have the original government still trying to keep everything intact. Then there would probably just be plain rebels fighting for their homeland.

Historically, that tends to not be the case. Usually it starts off with two sides, then the two sides gain extremists or new splinter groups and collapse into multiple factions.

I think it would be more like what happened in Russia 100 years ago: Two initial sides followed by larger states breaking off followed by practically every other major nation pouncing upon our carcase.

[Territories of Illinois]

Given the actions of today and the likely responses from our leadership, I think that it's gone up from a 5% to a 25% probability in the next 10-15 years. I still hope this won't happen, but that hope drops by the day.

I'm clueless what's happened with the leadership today?

[Shrillland]

Given the actions of today and the likely responses from our leadership, I think that it's gone up from a 5% to a 25% probability in the next 10-15 years. I still hope this won't happen, but that hope drops by the day.

I'm clueless what's happened with the leadership today?

After Mueller said what he did about Trump possibly being indicted after leaving office, Trump will do anything and everything he can to avoid that situation from ever arising.

[Pacomia]

Who would the civil war even be between?

[Territories of Illinois]

I'm clueless what's happened with the leadership today?

After Mueller said what he did about Trump possibly being indicted after leaving office, Trump will do anything and everything he can to avoid that situation from ever arising.

Are you saying that he would divide America over his indictment?

[Pacomia]

I have always kind have wanted a civil war so I could try to restore the Confederation to it's previous glory, but yeah I would give it about a 50% chance for the near future.

I oppose disunion. That said if America couldn't be reunited I'd prefer a Cascadian Republic(Though I've always preferred the terms shogunate or empire because it just sounds cool ok? ) as where I'd be.

I'm still a strong supporter of Cascadian Independence. Keep East Coast Washington out of our business.

[The South Falls]

Who would the civil war even be between?

Probably among party lines. That's the prevalent divisor in this nation, after all.

[Territories of Illinois]

Who would the civil war even be between?

that's what we're discussing, I'm thinking extremist on both sides mixed with the original government and different rebel groups I'm assuming...

[Shrillland]

After Mueller said what he did about Trump possibly being indicted after leaving office, Trump will do anything and everything he can to avoid that situation from ever arising.

Are you saying that he would divide America over his indictment?

America's already divided, it only needs the right spark to be set ablaze.

[Pacomia]

Who would the civil war even be between?

that's what we're discussing, I'm thinking extremist on both sides mixed with the original government and different rebel groups I'm assuming...

Which sides? Left vs Right? States vs Government? Who?