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UK confronts new face of terrorism: the far right.

Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm

For several years the concern about terrorism in the UK has been focused almost exclusively on Islamic terrorism. Now that is changing, as the far right is officially labelled a serious terrorist threat.

The change follows growing recognition of the rising threat from the far right, since the murder of 50 Muslims in Christchurch, New Zealand, in March.

In the same month, it emerged that four of the 18 terrorist plots that had been thwarted in the UK in the preceding three years had come from the far right.

Sajid Javid, the home secretary, said: “Our approach to stopping terrorists is the same, regardless of the twisted ideology that motivates them.


It's about time.

Mr Javid also announced a change to the definitions of the risk to “ensure clarity in the threat level system”.

Two further levels will be added – moderate, between low and substantial, and severe, between substantial and critical – to make five in total.

However, the additions do not affect the current threat level, which remains at severe – meaning “an attack is highly likely”.

Mr Javid said the inclusion of far-right terrorism had been recommended in an operational review by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 17296.html

Opinions? I think this is long overdue, recent polls show 1/3 of British think Islam is a threat to their way of life. Hatred of Islam is being employed more and more in political rhetoric. It's time to take the threat seriously.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby ElCKuT » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:05 pm

Oppress the white dudes :lol2:

All jokes aside, idk how to solve this. It's easier solving Muslim terrorism than political terrorism. The only thing I can think of is de-radicalization.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:08 pm

ElCKuT wrote:Oppress the white dudes :lol2:

All jokes aside, idk how to solve this. It's easier solving Muslim terrorism than political terrorism. The only thing I can think of is de-radicalization.

I think a lot of it boils down to racial tension and scapegoating. Also the negative coverage by the media. Imagine if MS-13 were popularly thought of as a "Christian gang"? The Daily Mail paints any gangs or organized crime as Islamic and it's propaganda.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:11 pm

Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:13 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

Muslims have no interest in imposing their lifestyle on British non Muslims.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:18 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

Muslims have no interest in imposing their lifestyle on British non Muslims.

Then why get all fussy about teaching kids about gay people then?

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:18 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

Muslims have no interest in imposing their lifestyle on British non Muslims.

Right... Press X to doubt.

All religions want to enforce their religious beliefs on everyone else. To say that Muslims don’t is just bullshit
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:19 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:Muslims have no interest in imposing their lifestyle on British non Muslims.

Then why get all fussy about teaching kids about gay people then?

Teaching Muslim children.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Napkizemlja » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

Probably because it's an overreaction by the government, at least as it pertains to that particular incident.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:21 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Then why get all fussy about teaching kids about gay people then?

Teaching Muslim children.

A Muslim kid has just as much of a chance of being gay as a non-Muslim one.

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Postby ElCKuT » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

This is a thread about far-right terrorism, not Muslim extremism.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:22 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Then why get all fussy about teaching kids about gay people then?

Teaching Muslim children.

Just because children might be Muslim or grow up in Muslim homes doesn’t mean they need to be treated differently. They’ll get the same treatment and education as every other child.

If the parents don’t like it they can take their children to a different school
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:22 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

Probably because it's an overreaction by the government, at least as it pertains to that particular incident.

It’s not.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:22 pm

Heloin wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:Teaching Muslim children.

A Muslim kid has just as much of a chance of being gay as a non-Muslim one.

And children not raised by Muslims have a good chance of being Muslim, it's not taught them though.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:Teaching Muslim children.

Just because children might be Muslim or grow up in Muslim homes doesn’t mean they need to be treated differently. They’ll get the same treatment and education as every other child.

If the parents don’t like it they can take their children to a different school

They will homeschool them if it persists I guess
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:24 pm

ElCKuT wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

This is a thread about far-right terrorism, not Muslim extremism.

Also this
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:24 pm

ElCKuT wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Radical Islam is a threat to the British way of life, all extremist religious idea area. And several Muslims aren’t really helping their case by pitching a fit about kids being taught that gay people are people too and exist or blasting hatred across the air waves and then getting pissy that the government shut them down

This is a thread about far-right terrorism, not Muslim extremism.

And I’m saying that 1/3rd saying that radical Islam is a threat to their way of life isn’t cause for alarm nor is it right-Wing extremism
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:25 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Heloin wrote:A Muslim kid has just as much of a chance of being gay as a non-Muslim one.

And children not raised by Muslims have a good chance of being Muslim, it's not taught them though.

Homosexuality isn’t learned though it’s innate
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:25 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Heloin wrote:A Muslim kid has just as much of a chance of being gay as a non-Muslim one.

And children not raised by Muslims have a good chance of being Muslim, it's not taught them though.

If I never knew Islam existed there would be zero chance of me converting. (not that I have much interest anyways, no offence)
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:25 pm

Funny how you can only push an entire race of people until they retaliate in the name of their culture and nothing more.... I would say that they are looking at this the wrong way... Right wing terrorism against Muslims in the UK and the rest of Europe is nothing more than reaction to a wide scale Muslim invasion... I dare say that I believe acts like these could be considered self defense
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:25 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Just because children might be Muslim or grow up in Muslim homes doesn’t mean they need to be treated differently. They’ll get the same treatment and education as every other child.

If the parents don’t like it they can take their children to a different school

They will homeschool them if it persists I guess

Ya that should be banned, as should religious schools
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:And children not raised by Muslims have a good chance of being Muslim, it's not taught them though.

Homosexuality isn’t learned though it’s innate

Muslims believe Islam is innate as well.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:27 pm

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Funny how you can only push an entire race of people until they retaliate in the name of their culture and nothing more.... I would say that they are looking at this the wrong way... Right wing terrorism against Muslims in the UK and the rest of Europe is nothing more than reaction to a wide scale Muslim invasion... I dare say that I believe acts like these could be considered self defense

Killing innocent people is self defense?
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby ElCKuT » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:27 pm

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Funny how you can only push an entire race of people until they retaliate in the name of their culture and nothing more.... I would say that they are looking at this the wrong way... Right wing terrorism against Muslims in the UK and the rest of Europe is nothing more than reaction to a wide scale Muslim invasion... I dare say that I believe acts like these could be considered self defense

There's no invasion going on nor is their any excuse for terrorism
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:27 pm

Heloin wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:And children not raised by Muslims have a good chance of being Muslim, it's not taught them though.

If I never knew Islam existed there would be zero chance of me converting. (not that I have much interest anyways, no offence)
If I never had learned about Gay people growing up I'd still be attracted to other women.

Funny enough I never knew gay people existed until I was in high school. But I knew that I was attracted to other guys since I was 10
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