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Springfeal wrote:
Araraukar wrote:Surprise, surprise, LGBT people are people. In other news, water is wet!

EDIT: Also, 5% of humans are completely straight, 5% are completely gay, about 5% (or was it 3%?) are asexual, and the rest belong on the bisexual continuum in between.


Bisexual implies almost equal attraction to both sexes. The terms heteroflexible and homoflexibile are used to refer to people that lean more one way.


That sounds quite flexible if I may say so.

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I have never encountered said phobia in the community. I've heard that it exists, but I've never seen it firsthand. And seeing as though I have been taking part in the LGBT community for longer than some people here have even been alive, I'd say it's not from lack of trying to see it. It must be either rare or extremely well hidden.
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People believe stupid shit. I was told, with a detailed explanation, that it was impossible for a bisexual to engage in a monogamous relationship.
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Telconi wrote:People believe stupid shit. I was told, with a detailed explanation, that it was impossible for a bisexual to engage in a monogamous relationship.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:38 pm

Telconi wrote:People believe stupid shit. I was told, with a detailed explanation, that it was impossible for a bisexual to engage in a monogamous relationship.

Shit, that's news to me.
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Springfeal wrote:
Araraukar wrote:Surprise, surprise, LGBT people are people. In other news, water is wet!

EDIT: Also, 5% of humans are completely straight, 5% are completely gay, about 5% (or was it 3%?) are asexual, and the rest belong on the bisexual continuum in between.


Bisexual implies almost equal attraction to both sexes. The terms heteroflexible and homoflexibile are used to refer to people that lean more one way.


Bisexual only implies an attraction to both sexes, not an equal attraction between the two.
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Telconi wrote:People believe stupid shit. I was told, with a detailed explanation, that it was impossible for a bisexual to engage in a monogamous relationship.

Heard that too, even though it is total shit.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:29 pm

Kannap wrote:
Springfeal wrote:
Bisexual implies almost equal attraction to both sexes. The terms heteroflexible and homoflexibile are used to refer to people that lean more one way.


Bisexual only implies an attraction to both sexes, not an equal attraction between the two.

That's how I have always used it.

Hetero-flexible or whatever just sounds like so much more unnecessary labeling bullshit. Fuck that noise.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:31 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Bisexual only implies an attraction to both sexes, not an equal attraction between the two.

That's how I have always used it.

Hetero-flexible or whatever just sounds like so much more unnecessary labeling bullshit. Fuck that noise.


Pretty much, if you're sexually attracted to both men and women, regardless of if its 50/50 (it's rarely 50/50), or 40/60, or 5/95, or 99/1, or 75/25, then you're bisexual.
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Biphobia and "transphobia" are the least of my concern.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:33 pm

Kannap wrote:
Scomagia wrote:That's how I have always used it.

Hetero-flexible or whatever just sounds like so much more unnecessary labeling bullshit. Fuck that noise.


Pretty much, if you're sexually attracted to both men and women, regardless of if its 50/50 (it's rarely 50/50), or 40/60, or 5/95, or 99/1, or 75/25, then you're bisexual.

Indeed. Anything else seems to just be making labels and categories for the sake of making labels and categories.
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Scomagia wrote:Indeed. Anything else seems to just be making labels and categories for the sake of making labels and categories.


Sounds an awful like pansexuality and made-up genders.

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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:35 pm

Kannap wrote:
Scomagia wrote:That's how I have always used it.

Hetero-flexible or whatever just sounds like so much more unnecessary labeling bullshit. Fuck that noise.


Pretty much, if you're sexually attracted to both men and women, regardless of if its 50/50 (it's rarely 50/50), or 40/60, or 5/95, or 99/1, or 75/25, then you're bisexual.

What if you think some men have attractive faces but could never date or be sexually attracted to them(beyond the face of course)?
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Risastorstein wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Indeed. Anything else seems to just be making labels and categories for the sake of making labels and categories.


Sounds an awful like pansexuality and made-up genders.


My understanding is that pansexuality extends sexual attraction of men and women to trans men and trans women as well, whereas bisexuals may or may not be attracted to transgender people.

But looks like you're here to make noise, why am I bothering to explain?
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Eternal Lotharia wrote:What if you think some men have attractive faces but could never date or be sexually attracted to them(beyond the face of course)?


Assuming that you are a man, you would be straight. Being able to see attractiveness is normal.
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Risastorstein wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Pretty much, if you're sexually attracted to both men and women, regardless of if its 50/50 (it's rarely 50/50), or 40/60, or 5/95, or 99/1, or 75/25, then you're bisexual.

What if you think some men have attractive faces but could never date or be sexually attracted to them(beyond the face of course)?


Assuming that you are a man, you would be straight. Being able to see attractiveness is normal.[/quote]
To be clear I meant being attracted to the faces.

But nothing else.
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Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Pretty much, if you're sexually attracted to both men and women, regardless of if its 50/50 (it's rarely 50/50), or 40/60, or 5/95, or 99/1, or 75/25, then you're bisexual.

What if you think some men have attractive faces but could never date or be sexually attracted to them(beyond the face of course)?


There's a difference between being sexually or romantically attracted to somebody and knowing that they look good/aesthetically pleasing.
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Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Its good that some homosexuals are not buying into the nonsense that is transgenderism... Shows that some in the homosexual community do not follow the blind lead of neo liberal politicians... Sex change is not a cure, its mutilation

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).
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Kannap wrote:My understanding is that pansexuality extends sexual attraction of men and women to trans men and trans women as well, whereas bisexuals may or may not be attracted to transgender people.

Because bisexuality isn't supposed to be "trans-exclusionary". If it was the case, we would need "trans-inclusive" adjectives for gay and straight.

Kannap wrote:But looks like you're here to make noise, why am I bothering to explain?

I don't know.
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Scomagia wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Its good that some homosexuals are not buying into the nonsense that is transgenderism... Shows that some in the homosexual community do not follow the blind lead of neo liberal politicians... Sex change is not a cure, its mutilation

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).

Bad acronym.

Not the people in it, but the acronym itself I dislike.

Stupid enlgish language.


no I'm not going to correct that typo.
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Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Pretty much, if you're sexually attracted to both men and women, regardless of if its 50/50 (it's rarely 50/50), or 40/60, or 5/95, or 99/1, or 75/25, then you're bisexual.

What if you think some men have attractive faces but could never date or be sexually attracted to them(beyond the face of course)?


That is aesthetic attraction, where you arent romantically or sexually attracted, but just recognize is pretty. not bisexual

On the topic, most biphobes in the lgbt community are often members of the same small group who support trump and/or show hatred to all other members of LGBTQA (pansexuality, trans, asexual, etc)
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Scomagia wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Its good that some homosexuals are not buying into the nonsense that is transgenderism... Shows that some in the homosexual community do not follow the blind lead of neo liberal politicians... Sex change is not a cure, its mutilation

This is about bisexuals, not trans.

This illustrates a problem, though. Bisexuals often get shoved out of the conversation and ignored in favor of other parts of LGBT (god, I hate that stupid acronym).

Op did mention transexuals and went on to talk about bi people... But I do agree with your point that the acronym is rather idiotic as it should end after LGB... Everything beyond it is the fetishization of mental illness
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