Biphobia in the LGBT community

[The Rich Port]

Considering Crockerland is also anti-queer, it's pretty evident he places too much stock on astroturf minorities as it is.

Answering bigotry with more bigotry is never the answer.

This community flourishes in communication, activism, and understanding, not in pathetic extremes.

Unless it's extreme amounts of love.

Yeah I sounded sappy. Screw y'all. I'm allowed to express my emotions.

Eh, sappy idealism is always needed in a movement. Granted, I still argue that we need to remember our radical origins and the fact that our past heroes were people who threw breaks at cops and engaged in militant direct action, but I'm also one of the queer liberationist types Crockerland seems to fear. Any movement needs its fighters and its lovers. Gatekeepers however aren't helpful.

Hm. Pointless factionalism.

Segregationism of sexualities and genders. Ridiculous.

[Romanian-Slavia]

"Biphobia in LGBT community"... Thats the most stupid thing I ever heard of.. Why does this thing exist?

[Threlizdun]

Eh, sappy idealism is always needed in a movement. Granted, I still argue that we need to remember our radical origins and the fact that our past heroes were people who threw breaks at cops and engaged in militant direct action, but I'm also one of the queer liberationist types Crockerland seems to fear. Any movement needs its fighters and its lovers. Gatekeepers however aren't helpful.

Hm. Pointless factionalism.

Segregationism of sexualities and genders. Ridiculous.

I don't advocate for that. Queer liberationism contrasts itself with assimilationism, not in the sense of arguing for a seperate society, but in critiquing the idea that we all can or even should try to assimilate into a white supremacist, patriarchal, capitalist, settler colonial state. Further, it links our struggles to the fight for liberation for people of color, indigenous people, women, the working class, and disabled people. It asks that our activism return to a fight for the protection of our most vulnerable, rather than having those in our community who can donate the most money and appear least threatening to cisnormative and heteronormative culture. It's the idea that the culture and lifestyles our community have created are beautiful and worthy of celebration, not watering down so that we can be more acceptable to those complicit in our oppression.

[Pasong Tirad]

"Biphobia in LGBT community"... Thats the most stupid thing I ever heard of.. Why does this thing exist?

Because a lot of people have ignorant misconceptions about bisexuality, such as many people within the community merely viewing bisexuality as a transitional period - which, to be fair, can be the case for many people - and thus simply dismissing people who call themselves bisexual as "on the way to being gay," similar to my own experiences?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Talking about my own experience as bisexual.l: Yes, I’ve been told by some people in the community that I’m not bi. That I’m just promiscuous. This despite the fact that I’ve been in a monogamous relationship for a decade. Our community is comprised of imperfect human beings and some of them can be bigoted too. Plain and simple. That being said, I wouldn’t accuse the entire community of being biophobic because that’s simple a gross and idiotic generalization.

[Cekoviu]

Talking about my own experience as bisexual.l: Yes, I’ve been told by some people in the community that I’m not bi. That I’m just promiscuous. This despite the fact that I’ve been in a monogamous relationship for a decade. Our community is comprised of imperfect human beings and some of them can be bigoted too. Plain and simple. That being said, I wouldn’t accuse the entire community of being biophobic because that’s simple a gross and idiotic generalization.

Man, slut shaming from the LGBT community. What a sad state of affairs.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Talking about my own experience as bisexual.l: Yes, I’ve been told by some people in the community that I’m not bi. That I’m just promiscuous. This despite the fact that I’ve been in a monogamous relationship for a decade. Our community is comprised of imperfect human beings and some of them can be bigoted too. Plain and simple. That being said, I wouldn’t accuse the entire community of being biophobic because that’s simple a gross and idiotic generalization.

Man, slut shaming from the LGBT community. What a sad state of affairs.

Happens. We’re imperfect. I just roll my eyes visibly and tune such people out.

[The Rich Port]

Hm. Pointless factionalism.

Segregationism of sexualities and genders. Ridiculous.

I don't advocate for that. Queer liberationism contrasts itself with assimilationism, not in the sense of arguing for a seperate society, but in critiquing the idea that we all can or even should try to assimilate into a white supremacist, patriarchal, capitalist, settler colonial state. Further, it links our struggles to the fight for liberation for people of color, indigenous people, women, the working class, and disabled people. It asks that our activism return to a fight for the protection of our most vulnerable, rather than having those in our community who can donate the most money and appear least threatening to cisnormative and heteronormative culture. It's the idea that the culture and lifestyles our community have created are beautiful and worthy of celebration, not watering down so that we can be more acceptable to those complicit in our oppression.

XD oh jeez i shoulda worded that better, I wasn't directing it at you, I was directing it at the people who advocate for that.

But hey I didn't know your position on that so, good enough XD

[Imperium of Dragonia]

The 'oppressed' group who demands tolerance is itself intolerant.
Fucking
Shocker

[Bread Herbert]

The 'oppressed' group who demands tolerance is itself intolerant.
Fucking
Shocker

Why is oppressed in quotations?

[New haven america]

Side note: Hes anyone seen the Sex and the City episode where Carrie dates a bisexual dude?

The breakfast conversation in that one has to be one of the cringiest and most misinformed things parading around as progressive that I've ever seen.

[Bread Herbert]

Side note: Hes anyone seen the Sex and the City episode where Carrie dates a bisexual dude?

The breakfast conversation in that one has to be one of the cringiest and most misinformed things parading around as progressive that I've ever seen.

I have not, is there a clip?

[New haven america]

Side note: Hes anyone seen the Sex and the City episode where Carrie dates a bisexual dude?

The breakfast conversation in that one has to be one of the cringiest and most misinformed things parading around as progressive that I've ever seen.

I have not, is there a clip?

Yes.

Warning, the video quality is horrendous, and you may die of cringe.

[Drongonia]

It's very saddening that bisexual people who go to the greater LGBT community for support would be rejected in such a way.

[Bread Herbert]

I have not, is there a clip?

Yes.

Warning, the video quality is horrendous, and you may die of cringe.

I hate people like that.

[Cekoviu]

I have not, is there a clip?

Yes.

Warning, the video quality is horrendous, and you may die of cringe.

...Wow. I haven't seen that show and I'm now guaranteed to never do so.

[New haven america]

Yes.

Warning, the video quality is horrendous, and you may die of cringe.

...Wow. I haven't seen that show and I'm now guaranteed to never do so.

Eh, it's a decent show, but it cannot hide the fact that it was made in the late 90's/early 2000's.

It's kinda like a time capsule of that time period. Believe it or not, the belief that bisexual people even existed was a revolutionary idea in America back then, that scene I shared was absolutely progressive for the time.

[Cekoviu]

...Wow. I haven't seen that show and I'm now guaranteed to never do so.

Eh, it's a decent show, but you can tell it was made in the late 90's/early 2000's.

It's kinda like a time capsule of that time period. Believe it or not, the belief that bisexual people even existed was a revolutionary idea in America back then, that scene I shared was absolutely progressive for the time.

I was too young then to have an understanding of social issues surrounding sexuality; perhaps you're right. It seems to me like the characters are reinforcing that idea in parts, though, along with peddling outright hate. (Unless that's something they do because they're all just salty assholes, idk.)

[New haven america]

Eh, it's a decent show, but you can tell it was made in the late 90's/early 2000's.

It's kinda like a time capsule of that time period. Believe it or not, the belief that bisexual people even existed was a revolutionary idea in America back then, that scene I shared was absolutely progressive for the time.

1. I was too young then to have an understanding of social issues surrounding sexuality; perhaps you're right. 2. It seems to me like the characters are reinforcing that idea in parts, though, along with peddling outright hate. 3. (Unless that's something they do because they're all just salty assholes, idk.)

1. So am I, but luckily we have a bunch of stats about what that time was like when it came to the issue of sexuality. For example, it took until 2004 for approval of gay people even being allowed to openly exist let alone marry to be an opinion of the majority. (And that was only around 51% vs 49%)
2. That's exactly what they're doing, because people back then didn't know any better and thought shit like that was ok.
3. Oh, they're all upper-middle class bitches, there's no hiding that fact.

Also, fun fact, Miranda's (Short red haired one) actress ironically is bisexual IRL, and is currently married to a woman. Yeah, that clip did not age well.

[N7eternia]

I have not, is there a clip?

Yes.

Warning, the video quality is horrendous, and you may die of cringe.

This scene was iconic. It's where Samantha brought up the term 'trysexual' which I referenced to many years in conversation. To me, the clip was not an example of biphobia. This was a show with 4 female friends with differing perspectives.

[Fascist Soyouso]

It's very saddening that bisexual people who go to the greater LGBT community for support would be rejected in such a way.

You'd think gay people wouldn't say things like "You need to pick a side!" when someone says they're bisexual, what with people who don't understand homosexuality insisting that it's a choice. But nope, people hear someone say they experience a thing they don't, they assume they know what they are better than they themselves.

[Alvecia]

It's very saddening that bisexual people who go to the greater LGBT community for support would be rejected in such a way.

You'd think gay people wouldn't say things like "You need to pick a side!" when someone says they're bisexual, what with people who don't understand homosexuality insisting that it's a choice. But nope, people hear someone say they experience a thing they don't, they assume they know what they are better than they themselves.

Idiots and dickheads can be gay as well.

[Fascist Soyouso]

You'd think gay people wouldn't say things like "You need to pick a side!" when someone says they're bisexual, what with people who don't understand homosexuality insisting that it's a choice. But nope, people hear someone say they experience a thing they don't, they assume they know what they are better than they themselves.

Idiots and dickheads can be gay as well.

Well, yeah. That's what I just said.

[Nakena]

Some people are worried about divergences. Biphobia is hilarious though in my view.

[Alvecia]

Idiots and dickheads can be gay as well.

Well, yeah. That's what I just said.

I like my way better